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by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton points deduction reduced
Replies: 122
Views: 7417

Re: Everton points deduction reduced

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:32 pm
Not sure I get that, they have still been deducted 6 points?

Don’t you only get a 7 point deduction for going bankrupt?

In the scheme of things it sounds about right unless I’m missing something
9 points for administration.
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 8704

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

Yeah except the accounts show we did have money so what the heck are you on about? The accounts do show approx £80m in the bank, but that includes are large chunk of the Premier League tv money which was already committed to pay wages. Something less than £40m was borrowed by ALK to help them pay f...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton points deduction reduced
Replies: 122
Views: 7417

Re: Everton points deduction reduced

Couldnt edit so: This relates to the three seasons previous. i.e 2022/23, 2021/22 and 2020/21. McNeil signed for them in July 2022. Obviously, the penalty (six points) may or may not not apply but my point remains. Hi Darthlaw, take a look at the appeal summary, the 3rd year of Everton's first brea...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pertinent questions: How much does it cost to sack VK?
Replies: 43
Views: 2753

Re: Pertinent questions: How much does it cost to sack VK?

Pace must be working this out How long is VK contract for ? And how much is he on per year? And what about that recruitment firm he has part ownership of and how much bearing does that have on things? I recommend you get the bucket collection going on Sunday. If the fans can raze £10 million or mor...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton points deduction reduced
Replies: 122
Views: 7417

Re: Everton points deduction reduced

So, in brief: Season 1: Spend more than the rules allow to stay up at the expense of Club X, who are playing by the rules. Season 2: again spend more than the rules allow, this time to purchase players from the club X (such as Dwight McNeil), at reduced rate as their players wish to stay in the top...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 8704

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

We'd been punching above our weight for years,and in SDs last season it was all coming apart. We had an aging squad, and not enough money to buy the necessary replacements. As I said at the time, relegation was a blessing in disguise. We lost some great players we would love to have kept, but we al...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?
Replies: 215
Views: 8704

Re: ALK’s Strategy: Are We Witnessing A Failing Experiment?

You are correct ALK will make money, lots of money, but at what cost to those of us who remain? The league is littered with clubs that have been pushed close to extinction due to the major shareholders looking after their own interests at a cost to the club. It will be us the fans that are left to ...
by Paul Waine
Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1264664

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Are they finally learning some of their obligations ALK Capital Ltd manage to submit their Confirmation statement on time - for the first time (and as expected there is no change https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12880549/filing-history It is worth noting that Confi...
by Paul Waine
Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1264664

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

bfc8 wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:33 am
First job for the regulator, insist clubs publish timely financial info in a format fans can understand.
That's a tough one, bfc8. Are you expecting every fan to have accounting and corporate finance qualifications?
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jim Ratcliffe and his begging bowl
Replies: 18
Views: 1762

Re: Jim Ratcliffe and his begging bowl

Jim Ratcliffe is not the owner of Manchester United. He can talk whatever ******** he wants. The Glazers run that club and long may they continue to do so.😀 The deal, as reported in the media, is that Jim Ratcliffe, despite only buying (just under) 28% of the shares, is running the football operati...
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mr Bates vs the Post Office
Replies: 311
Views: 29764

Re: Mr Bates vs the Post Office

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:30 pm
Still dragging on as it will be July before it becomes law and more of the Post Masters may have died by then
Government dragging it on longer than necessary
Should start making payments now imo
I'd expect compensation payments aren't waiting until this law is passed.
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
Replies: 120
Views: 6184

Re: Aaron Ramsey injury

Hi Paul. I am sure that there some specific details that could fall under this but if this was the case for all injuries how would that explain the significant inconsistencies between clubs and inconsistencies in our own club ? Klopp was giving daily updates on Mo Salah’s hamstring injury a couple ...
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
Replies: 120
Views: 6184

Re: Aaron Ramsey injury

Not sure. Could be player (or “asset”) protection ? Could be VK or his team not wanting this to be part of press conferences. Whatever it is I think it’s a choice in approach and a choice that they are completely entitled to make. All I am saying is I prefer the approach of providing updates on our...
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
Replies: 120
Views: 6184

Re: Aaron Ramsey injury

I think you are getting confused between GDPR (which is a legal minefield) & patient confidentiality. If he was to go into some great detail about a player’s medical situation then he could breach the latter. But telling the media what kind of injury he has suffered is not a problem. I've just done...
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mr Bates vs the Post Office
Replies: 311
Views: 29764

Re: Mr Bates vs the Post Office

im not sure this is good news, i think it makes a mockery of our justice system. can we carte blanche say that none of those accused committed any crime? i think individual cases need to be reviewed. very dangerous precedence in my opinion. I understand that the minister has accepted that some who ...
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
Replies: 120
Views: 6184

Re: Aaron Ramsey injury

Agree with that but for shorter term things it doesn’t help with how evasive he is now and we do seem unique at it. I get asked by young family members about whether we will see certain players in the next game and I have to admit I don’t have a clue, makes it hard to persuade them to come on. The ...
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jim Ratcliffe and his begging bowl
Replies: 18
Views: 1762

Re: Jim Ratcliffe and his begging bowl

Can't say I'm quite happy with how rules for non-doms are set up at the moment that seem designed to allow those at the top of society to avoid huge amounts of tax - but that's a matter for the government to address (which they won't - even Sunak's wife has been at it). Does make me feel a bit sick...
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jim Ratcliffe and his begging bowl
Replies: 18
Views: 1762

Re: Jim Ratcliffe and his begging bowl

I've no problem with a New Old Trafford being built as the "National Stadium in the North." However, I'd charge Man Utd a fee for every game they play there based on the costs to the taxpayers of developing the new stadium - and the full costs of Man Utd using the stadium. Jim Ratcliffe will underst...
by Paul Waine
Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tom Lockyer: I thought I was dying
Replies: 29
Views: 1928

Re: Tom Lockyer: I thought I was dying

Considering he will be almost 30 by the time he could potentially be fit to play again I wouldn't even entertain playing again if I was him. Obviously it's a decision for him and his family to make though. I turned 70 last November. I started playing walking football 3 years ago. A week after my 70...
by Paul Waine
Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
Replies: 36
Views: 3505

Re: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview

Personal opinion: I'm pleased that Sean Dyche, James Tarkowski and Dwight McNeil are showing that none of them are "one club wonders" and that they can all show their skills at another Premier League club. (I'm equally pleased that Ben Mee at Brentford and Nick Pope at Newcastle - before injury - ar...
by Paul Waine
Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parking on outskirts of London - tube station
Replies: 30
Views: 1653

Re: Parking on outskirts of London - tube station

Anyone recommend somewhere to part outside London. We are staying at Tower Bridge next weekend but would like to dump the car Friday rather than driving in. People have recommended Brent cross or Finchley but just wondered if anyone else had any opinion? Be aware of ULEZ, especially if your vehicle...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tom Lockyer: I thought I was dying
Replies: 29
Views: 1928

Tom Lockyer: I thought I was dying

Tom Lockyer: I thought I was dying – but I’d love to play again Luton Town captain’s heart stopped for more than two minutes after he collapsed on pitch in December and needed a defibrillator but he is not ruling out a return to action Dominic Akiboye, Sunday February 18 2024, 9.30pm, The Times For...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview
Replies: 36
Views: 3505

Sean Dyche Matthew Syed interview

Sean Dyche: Love is shown by telling the whole, brutal truth Matthew Syed, Sunday February 18 2024, 9.10pm, The Times A fascinating article about a guy many of us know well. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ec6ac3a0-ca4d-4062-a671-aabf1129a9ce?shareToken=37f9c3cffe0cdcb0a710c26da6b5ac19 Link will...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: AFC Burnley
Replies: 9
Views: 1490

Re: AFC Burnley

Is Burnley big enough for 2 clubs?
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread
Replies: 302
Views: 10184

Re: Today’s thread

It's the same that gaslight about why Benson and others haven't had a chance/barely played. How can anyone on this board "gaslight" about why Benson hasn't played? No one on here is running the training sessions during the week. All any of us know about Benson is what we saw of him last season. He ...
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread
Replies: 302
Views: 10184

Re: Today’s thread

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:48 pm
or showed any intensity or intent in our play!
I thought the penalty was given for "showing intent."
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread
Replies: 302
Views: 10184

Re: Today’s thread

we aren't good but what do you do when you give pens away for the opposition tripping themselves up ? Zero chance we get that at the other end let alone in any away game. https://x.com/collinabanter/status/1758879959152525441?s=20 Looks to me as though Trossard flicked out his left foot to make con...
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread
Replies: 302
Views: 10184

Re: Today’s thread

You have to laugh now. A penalty for intent when there is no touch. Any ideas whether we get a pen for exactly the same non contact incident at the other end. Incredible how they have the barefaced cheek to give us scandalous decisions week on week. There is no touch on the player and so it is not ...
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread
Replies: 302
Views: 10184

Re: Today’s thread

Question, can a manager/coach who's banned from touchline go into dressing room at half time?
by Paul Waine
Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The ITV digital collapse
Replies: 52
Views: 3523

Re: The ITV digital collapse

Had a massive impact on young players getting new clubs around that time after the collapse. I don't know you, Blatherwickstattoo. Were you one of the young players? I knew a few of them. I was at the last game of the 2002/03 season, 4th May v Wimbledon at Selhurst Park (last game before Wimbledon ...
by Paul Waine
Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: JJ Watt...
Replies: 333
Views: 22279

Re: JJ Watt...

I hear that JJ Watt will be reviewing all season ticket applications for next season. I hear there are plans to weed out all those that have been critical of Vincent Kompany, Alan Pace and the team.

UTC
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

Because it’s the same week in week out. People would be more forgiving if VK tried something different. Hey maybe even bring on one of last seasons top goal scorers who had the habit to score crucial goals out of nothing. But again it’s the same old players offering nothing, again and again. What a...
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:41 pm
Esteve did not look happy when on the bench
Assume Esteve has an injury
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

Fofana - big chance - wide
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

CLOSE!
Liverpool 2-1 Burnley

Andy Robinson picks out Darwin Nunez and he's denied from close range.

Burnley go up the other end, David Fofana is blocked by Caoimhín Kelleher and Wilson Odobert scuffs the rebound.

What a chance for Burnley! Some big saves from Kelleher.
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:10 pm
2-1 and that one is on the team. Nobody would launch it.
Greekclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:11 pm
That came from Trafford. AGAIN! Just smash the ball instead of messing around at the back. GET HIM OFF
Are you 2 watching different games?

VAR taking a look...

Checked badge, goal stands.
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

2-1 Lpool
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

BBC: 'A sublime header from O'Shea' Liverpool 1-1 Burnley Glenn Murray Former Brighton striker on Final Score What a sublime header from Dara O'Shea. The goal comes from a corner, he is about 12-13 yards out, standing start, and he has to get the power with his neck to try and hit that top corner wi...
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

Alexander-Arnold off, Elliot on.

No changes for Burnley
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

Darthlaw wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:59 pm
Having seen that replay for their first
What are you trying to tell us, Darthlaw?
by Paul Waine
Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Replies: 601
Views: 16869

Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley

GOAL - Liverpool 1-1 Burnley
Dara O'Shea

Wow, what a header this is from Dara O'Shea!

It's his first in the Premier League and he's thumped it past Caoimhín Kelleher from a corner.

It's right in the top corner and Kelleher was never getting there. Burnley are level at Anfield!

BBC
by Paul Waine
Fri Feb 09, 2024 11:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20727

Re: Blackburn......

Screenshot_20240208_214307_Google.jpg Now I'm no Chester Perry...not even an aggie or a Paul Waine..but isn't 8% a bit of a drop in a companies capitalisation in just one day? Venky's (India) Ltd is only one part of the Venky family business. The top company of the conglomerate is V H Group a priva...
by Paul Waine
Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: My Prostrate Diagnosis
Replies: 65
Views: 3159

Re: My Prostate Diagnosis

Thanks for details on your enlarged prostate treatment, beddie. I've had hyper enlarged prostate for a few years, including most of symptoms you list. Given King Charles announcing his enlarged prostate treatment there's been a lot in the media. Some reports say 80% of males over 70 have this condit...
by Paul Waine
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12775
Views: 1264664

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

My big worry here is that we potentially go down with one of Forest and Everton this year, depending on points deductions, and in some horrific twist of bad luck, City - who knows when their case will be heard? We really need to be ballsy and keep as many of our players as we can next year and go o...
by Paul Waine
Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Poch
Replies: 17
Views: 3380

Re: Poch

I can't see a £10 mill sacking bill (if true) pushing them over the edge. Any payout will most likely be spread over the length of the contract. Well, kind of... If a club sacks a manager and pays compensation to end their contract, then, yes, it can be charged in the accounts up to the day the con...
by Paul Waine
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Maxime Esteve
Replies: 51
Views: 5387

Re: Maxime Esteve

beddie wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:05 pm
Let’s hope he can quickly speak the language, then he can start to bollock some of his colleagues to get into position especially when defending corners and set plays.
We've already got a number of French speakers in the team. The rest will quickly learn what he's telling them.

UTC
by Paul Waine
Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How often does this happen
Replies: 17
Views: 2525

Re: How often does this happen

Sure but the tribal nature of football is what has helped to made it such a popular game. For me it's the enjoyment of watching 2 teams compete. I'm perfectly happy to travel to the ground and away from the ground and chat with fans supporting the other team. I'm sure most of us are. This idea that...
by Paul Waine
Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January transfer window rumours.
Replies: 2353
Views: 288127

Re: January transfer window rumours.

CAN WE HAVE JUST TRANSFER RUMOURS PLEASE I'd find it helpful if we split the "transfer window" threads into 3 separate threads: 1) Burnley FC - rumours of incoming players; 2) Burnley FC - rumours of outgoing players; 3) Other Clubs - rumours of transfers. I've no issues with debates on each of the...
by Paul Waine
Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 60
Views: 3482

Re: 2023/24: Crystal Palace v Burnley – Ticket Information

Now on sale and it looks like the plan is the wrong way round. The seats on the left are actually on the far right hand side as you face the pitch. I've already got mine. Down towards the front, so can avoid view being blocked by low roof, also the pillars (I hope). But, also on the aisle to improv...
by Paul Waine
Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January transfer window rumours.
Replies: 2353
Views: 288127

Re: January transfer window rumours.

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:43 am
Plus there's this remarkable invention called a mobile phone, plus email, plus video calling etc.....i think they work in scotland :?:
There are reports that WhatsApp messages sometimes disappear in Scotland.