Doubt the options will be taken, they'll all be gone I reckon, kompany doesn't really want player's from the dyche era at the club, he'll take the opportunity to clear these out this summer I expect.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:48 pm+ Jay, JBG - though JBG and it's rumoured Brownhill have a years option
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- Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:34 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jumping ship at the end of the season
- Replies: 56
- Views: 5232
Re: Jumping ship at the end of the season
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The next Nathan Tella
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3811
Re: The next Nathan Tella
Nobody currently at the club has Tellas killer instinct, including Foster. We are desperate for a marksman. That's what we are missing so badly, was summed up on motd, lack real conviction and killer instinct, had chances yesterday but failed to hit the back of the net, Odobert and Larsen were the ...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Squad for next season, STAY OR GO
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3226
Re: Squad for next season, STAY OR GO
GK: Muric STAY but think he'll want to go Trafford GO Peacock Farrell GO Vigeroux STAY Full Back: Assignon STAY shown more passion already than others Vitinho GO Roberts STAY Taylor STAY Central defenders: Beyer STAY Esteve STAY Ekdal GO AL Dakhil STAY O’Shea GO McNally GO Delcroix GO Egan Riley ST...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28491
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28491
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Wasting your breath. People seem to remember football's a team game when it suits, people took a while to get used to Muric last year (myself included, he was scary early doors) but that was a new system, the same people who understood and defended that system then suddenly have amnesia as to how i...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 6844
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
It worked last season, yes it hasn't this season, but will no doubt work again next season, I'd be more worried if he said he was moving away from the tried and tested next season. I await next season with bated breath, because if we go into it with this same philosophy and set up we'll be way off....
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 6844
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
Andy Townsend, Dean Saunders, Darren Bent, Danny Murphy Jamie O’Hara et.al. Yes these are all on Talksport which is not really a respected radio station for the highbrow elite on here. However, all of them have said our goalkeeper is not up to scratch on several occasions. Think it's fair to say we...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 6844
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
So he's taking us to the bottom of league 3....wow, just wow. "Read the articles" he's quotes, words, statements, and determination not to change something that's clearly not working, and to read he's thinking of he's vision of the way forward is just mind-boggling to say the least, to get to a poi...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 6844
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
I've just read 2 articles in the Burnley express and vk has no intensions of changing anything tomorrow, surely pace and co can't continue into next season with this philosophy, or we could soon be discussing games of an orient proportion. Worrying time's imo looking at vk's summing up of the way to...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 6844
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
We aren’t going down because of our keeper - it’s because we can’t score goals or pass accurately Right from the very start of the season Trafford has been a huge contributing factor to the uncertainty and lack of confidence at the back, and Muric was instrumental last season to our threat going fo...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 6844
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I know I will get shot down for saying this, but as a conservative estimate, Trafford has cost us between 6 and 9 points this season with his weak goalkeeping. Trafford lovers will be on shortly to say how many games he has kept us in with his “worldly” saves t...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:51 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ben Mee
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3344
Re: Ben Mee
Mee was excellent for us. But saying he was better than Tarkowski is stretching it somewhat. Both had their own qualities, and obviously complimented each other, Ben was more of an unsung hero, possibly it was tarkowski's imposing stature that caught people's eye, but Ben literally put he's body on...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 6844
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
I've said the same myself. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though. Had we started the season with Muric and BPF I suspect it would have been questioned. However, £19m on Trafford will go down as the most disastrous signing in our history. Any thought that City will buy him back is nonsensical - he's...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No need to apologise
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4369
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No need to apologise
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4369
Re: No need to apologise
I have no idea how many can, but it's clearly not being seen as a major factor in selection. Still, for the record, I am a massive Muric fan. I just think he's not ticking the relevant boxes. There's no better box to tick than vk saw with he's own eye's from around 10 games into last season, I'm no...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No need to apologise
- Replies: 56
- Views: 4369
Re: No need to apologise
I know one that can't !CoolClaret wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:41 pmThe evidence is every game this season
Tell me how many keepers in world football can do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5omj4Ply38&t=160s
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:54 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ben Mee
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3344
Re: Ben Mee
I used to think at times that Tarks and Keane were better defenders than Mee because they were a little more composed on the ball. I couldn't have been more wrong. IMHO Mee is without doubt the best defender I have seen play for us in about 45-50 years of following the Clarets. He had great positio...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:14 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
- Replies: 180
- Views: 6844
Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
Superjohnny, I think we need two new goalkeepers. I'd keep Trafford as what you might call an apprentice. I'm absolutely clueless as to why vk can't see it, but muric is very close to being the best keeper that he's likely to manage in he's managerial career imo, had he been backed in the same way ...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
- Replies: 85
- Views: 3864
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Where did I mention muric ???claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:20 pmThat seems an awful lot of words to say playing Muric is more important than winning
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
- Replies: 85
- Views: 3864
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
I must be reading this wrong but some replies are reading like "I don't care if we lose so long as my favourite payers play" It's about attempting to get a result by giving a chance to players that haven't had a fair chance this season after 3 wins in 26 games, so why not try something different by...
- Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
- Replies: 85
- Views: 3864
Re: Which is more important for you on Sunday?
Thisburnley007 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:50 amI understand why the result is important, but if it's the same team, playing the same way and we fluke a result, does that change anything?
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
He needs a loan somewhere else but VK ‘s stubbornness is killing him. Just play Muric it’s easier. Seems VK is just trying to prove a point now and failing quite badly really. If we had a strong chairman I’m sure this would have ended months ago. Seems no one can upset his ego or challenge him. Thi...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
I've already posted again about that matter if you have a look. I've supported my team for almost 60 years and will continue to do so, although this manager atm is not making things easy in that respect.
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
- Replies: 424
- Views: 15415
Re: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
I disagree He clearly does want to learn, that's probably why he came to Burnley in the Championship, expecting to be in that division for 2 or 3 seasons minimum And he has made changes, last season and this. Last season he took Barnes off at half time against Sunderland. He then brought Barnes bac...
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
Not having a go at you AAC, but Hmmm not sure that sort of thing is appropriate……….whether he’s been crap or not it’s a tough gig in that team, and no young lad should have to face a torrent of abuse from the stands directly or indirectly. I bet he himself cant wait for the summer to come and he ca...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
Only way Trafford is not playing is if he is injured. VK is far too stubborn to change now. Pathetic really. The fans have to really start showing displeasure to let him know he’s getting it wrong I would imagine. Need the cfs to start a muric chant, send it round the stadium and keep it going for ...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
I think we need to start solider And Benson & Odebert need to come off the bench around the hour mark As do the likes of Massengo for Cork It's a kind of build from the back, but defend from the front, in other words all got to put a shift in, but has to be organised so as lots have said, we need a...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
Yep I agree with you Pal, Trafford was signed to play And whether it’s a clause in the contract agreed or just a bit of bad management is the only question unanswered He started the season poorly has only improved in his shot stopping but in all other departments is poor, he is still too weak, espe...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
Quite honestly, I just don't care any more. Kompany has brought in about 30 players since he arrived and spent more money in the process than any previous manager. If, after that, he can't find eleven players to us out of the bottom three, he deserves to go. Whether or not the club can afford to sa...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
"Made something up" ???????TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:03 pmAs far as "I made something up and reported it as fact then doubled down when challenged" posts go, this takes some beating.
"Challenged" ??????????
I've made nothing up, that's my belief of why muric didn't start the season, simple as that.
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
They had 2 pre-season matches each. Muric was top quality in his two and Trafford made mistakes in both of his. I was stunned when Trafford got the nod for the City game. And so was I, but I honestly don't believe that came into vk's thinking, he's mind was already made up by then, that's why he br...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
My point is that it isn’t “how it seems”. For that to be the case, Muric would have to have played, and made the similar mistakes you state he has. Neither of those two things have happened. Look, I'm in the muric in camp, and the only thing I can assume is that muric didn't start the season as he ...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Re: Selections on Sunday
Didn't say he'd said it, but that's how it seems. Why else would it be.
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 5043
Selections on Sunday
Obviously too early for a prediction on the starting 11 but listening to kompanys interview's and looking at the way he held he's hands up and he's face told a tale. For the first time maybe he realises it can't go on, relegation or not. Given Brownhill's 1 game absence, he's out of the equation, Ra...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we all calmed down today!!
- Replies: 54
- Views: 2804
Re: Have we all calmed down today!!
Lots of derogatory comments flying around yesterday aimed at VK and our players. Its just a game of football, we are going through a tough time and we need to get behind the team, There are still 11 game left and 33 points- we can still do this. UTC. P.s stop being so negative. I'll still be there ...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:15 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Championship naivety
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1383
Re: Championship naivety
Not enough, next season won't be anything like the last time we were in the championship. Last season was just a perfect example of a one off, a little bit like what happened at deadwood when they won the prem. New board, new manager, new team etc. Everyone bought into it, owners, player's, fan's, ...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trafford Contract
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5378
Re: Trafford Contract
Does anyone actually know what The Project is and how long it’s supposed to take? We’re going to be two years into it come the summer and be exactly where Vincent started - heading to the Championship and a huge rebuild needing to be done. You think we can sustain another rebuild in the summer, as ...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trafford Contract
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5378
Re: Trafford Contract
I can believe city’s clause and also that Kompany has skin in the game for development of players and commission on deals where he generates a profit. I don’t think any of these concepts are new. What I don’t believe is VK forgoing his bonus for keeping us in the PL, not to mention his own reputati...
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:53 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is there a coup looming.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2503
Re: Is there a coup looming.
Jackson's face in particular is, well, "A PICTURE"
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill’s reaction
- Replies: 43
- Views: 4371
Re: Brownhill’s reaction
Not saying that Muric plays a worldy pass in the exact same set of circumstances as yesterday, but Muric has exceptional vision and allows us to get out of the oppositions press through finding the space. Trafford plays simple passes into either centre half or Brownhill. Palace and Lerma knew this....
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill’s reaction
- Replies: 43
- Views: 4371
Re: Brownhill’s reaction
This.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:46 amIt's probably in keeping with everything else that's going on at the moment. It's perceived in some circles as 1 big joke & it shouldn't come as any real shock to anybody if people laugh or smile. The place is turning into a circus.
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:20 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
- Replies: 424
- Views: 15415
Re: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
He's needed results in the last 5 and look what happened therexxmunkyennuixx wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:47 amStay. He needs results in the next five to show hope for next season.
- Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:01 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trafford Contract
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5378
Re: Trafford Contract
Are you not disillusioned already ?Carlos the Great wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:53 amI am going to be seriously disillusioned with VK if he allows Muric to be sold …
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Post match presser anyone?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 2193
Re: Post match presser anyone?
Looked like that for some time I reckon
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Time to revert back
- Replies: 20
- Views: 1863
Re: Time to revert back
I don’t agree with this Approach TB. We should be putting out a side that try and win as many games as possible. We have six more home games and we are half arsed enough already without turning them into glorified training sessions. Furthermore there will be a massive churn of players again at the ...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
- Replies: 424
- Views: 15415
Re: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
Has to be "GO" just don't see the point in trusting him to bring us back up to where we are now, he's learnt nothing, and doesn't seem interested in learning, "too pig headed"
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The late late subs
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1813
Re: The late late subs
One thing we definitely need is a change of keeper, if it's not muric anybody, just a change from this one.
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 19072
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
This is also where I’m at now. Very strange strategy in the summer that has completely backfired. However, I’d be inclined to stick with him next season and give him the chance to prove he’s learnt from his mistakes this season. I suspect I am in the minority with that now though and the toxicity l...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 19072
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
It's a fair bet bookies will suspend bets for that one.Poulton-le-Claret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:34 pmWhat are the odds next weeks starting XI will be the exact same with Cullen for Brownhill
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
- Replies: 733
- Views: 19072
Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
What I don’t like about this club though, and this messageboard, is the singling out of 18, 19, 20, 21 year old players. We should be better than that as supporters. Players like Odobert will have quiet games at his age. He is a talent. Biggest problem is we have a team full of them, other Premier ...