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by Royboyclaret
Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Best Burnley fight back you have ever seen ?
Replies: 93
Views: 5485

Re: Best Burnley fight back you have ever seen ?

A few over the years, but the outstanding one has to be Tottenham away in Dec.'60. We'd played away at Rheims in the European Cup three days earlier and quickly went 0-4 down at White Hart Lane. We found some legs and courage from somewhere and goals from Connelly(2), Pointer & Robson gave us a 4-4 ...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Just a little bit more on that. Our matchday Income for season 2017/18 of £5.6million represented just 4% of our Total Income of £139million.

The equivalent figure at Real Madrid was 19%, 143million euros within a Total Income of 751million euros.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@SwissRamble takes a look at Real Madrid's 2018/19 financial Results https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1189087810973814784" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Selling Ronaldo for 100m at 33 seemed like good business but it definitely hit their other revenue streams - meanwhile Juven...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Might have mentioned it before, but
Replies: 15
Views: 2692

Re: Might have mentioned it before, but

On a similar theme, apart from the B and the V, Brady and Vydra are the same.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: For the second time we’ve made mistakes against the top sides
Replies: 3
Views: 573

Re: ARTICLE: For the second time we’ve made mistakes against the top sides

That was the most annoying aspect, we were architects of our own downfall.......again.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1914 Cup Final Film
Replies: 17
Views: 1913

Re: 1914 Cup Final Film

What an occasion this must have been back in 1914, over 100 years ago, not just for our winning team but for the thousands of Burnley supporters who travelled down to London. As ClaretTony posts we've seen a brief part of the film in the OP but most of it is first time viewing and the only pity is t...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1914 Cup Final Film
Replies: 17
Views: 1913

Re: 1914 Cup Final Film

What a film! Good stuff. Who was the Burnley man knocked out by the ball, blocking a shot with his face? Ilike the way they rushed to him and yanked him to his feet. Concussion protocols aren't what they were. What an amazing film. The Burnley player who takes one in the face is George Halley. A pr...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Thrilling finale as Burnley hang on against City
Replies: 23
Views: 1611

Re: ARTICLE: Thrilling finale as Burnley hang on against City

Plenty of goals as was the norm between these two sides at the time. But the key from our point of view was the win which ended a poor spell of results and kickstarted our season.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Superb team photo there of the 1920/21 side that went 30 games unbeaten in Division One.

All the greats on there including Dawson, Halley, Boyle & Watson, Kelly, Anderson and the rest.

Brilliant stuff, conyoviejo.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@SwissRamble does his thing with Ajax's financial results for 2018/19 season - got to say I am enjoying his sojourn into Europe and hoping he will examine the catastrophic AC Milan accounts - they are the only grand old club in Europe who make Man United's fall from grace look like a minor inconven...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Back on the road to Leicester after the latest break
Replies: 6
Views: 906

Re: PREVIEW: Back on the road to Leicester after the latest break

The 1954 Leicester programme at the top of the preview is intriguing me. Clearly it was a Monday game which seemed strange, but on checking three of our four midweek games that early season were also Monday games. Then the following season 1955/56 all our early midweek games, both home and away, wer...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@SwissRamble does his imperious thing with Barcelona's accounts https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1183641858066583552" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Never cease to be amazed by Barcelona's accounts and, as I've stated previously on here, they exist on a different financial leve...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Silkyskills1 wrote:I wonder what happened to Albert Holmes' career?
Stayed at Chesterfield until 1976 where he amassed a total of 470 appearances in a 16 year career there.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hampstead Claret RIP
Replies: 163
Views: 14272

Re: Hampstead Claret RIP

Desperately sad news.

Farewell to a top contributor on this forum.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

You obviously haven't been keeping up with them over the last few months. Partick have turned into a joke and are at serious risk of it getting even worse if they're taken over by the clowns who run Barnsley. The best case is that Euromillions winner Colin Weir funds a fan-led group to take over. W...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

How normal professional (traditional?) football survives - Partick Thistle publishes detailed accounts for 2018/19, a season that saw them drop to the 3rd tier of Scottish football - these financials are similar to a lower league 2 team in England that would not produce anything so transparent http...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Clarets and Brooks both crash to defeat as dodgy apples hit town
Replies: 10
Views: 674

Re: ARTICLE: Clarets and Brooks both crash to defeat as dodgy apples hit town

This result was a real setback from what was reckoned to be a potential home banker. We were back to the lack of consistency which has been mentioned before on this series of threads. Dad was convinced the team was jaded after the recent schedule which included those two friendlies and yet within a ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Down Th'Imp
Replies: 42
Views: 6120

Re: Down Th'Imp

Fair play to the op in compiling such a comprehensive list......And what a list it is.......Some of the greatest global rock bands of the era, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Fleetwood Mac, Free, to name but a few. Just sensational. Difficult to pick any holes in the list but (and I'd be interested to hear the...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Which ground
Replies: 24
Views: 2449

Re: Which ground

Filbert St, the scene of one of our greatest away performances of all time in Sept 1961, a 6-2 win. Jimmy Mac was at his imperious best and we ripped Leicester to shreds, could easily have been double figures. We'd also won 6-2 away at Birmingham City just four days earlier at a time the great team ...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

We know the finances at Barcelona are pretty bonkers - they generate more revenue than anybody and expect it to go through the billion euro mark this season - their wages are equally enormous, as are their bonuses https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7547861/Barcelona-gave-players-92m...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour now want to interfere in running football clubs
Replies: 60
Views: 4669

Re: Labour now want to interfere in running football clubs

So which two members of Burnley's board would supporters want to sack?..assuming, of course, there would be any. None of them. All seven are Burnley fans first and foremost and all are committed to the cause with the best interests of the Club and team at heart. In that respect they are the polar o...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Who is behind Joyce. Miller ? Definitely Brian Miller and if claretblue is correct and it's the Hamburg home game the missing players are Blacklaw, Angus, Elder and Mac. The puzzler for me is exactly what our players are applauding?........Are they giving a round of applause at the end of the game ...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Late goal earns point at leaders Spurs
Replies: 14
Views: 1292

Re: ARTICLE: Late goal earns point at leaders Spurs

they also used to do a very comprehensive write-up in the local paper of each reserve game...the Central League was very competitive! We won the Central League in 1961/62 & 1962/63 with a very strong side. As CT says crowds were in the region of 10,000 on a regular basis, it was also the best way o...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Look at the state of the pitch in the first photo, looks like the tide has just gone out. Is it Turf Moor ?

What's the story behind the "Welcome to Turf Moor" photo ?.....Mac, Cummings and even a returning John Connelly on there. Maybe 1975 ish ?
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Late goal earns point at leaders Spurs
Replies: 14
Views: 1292

Re: ARTICLE: Late goal earns point at leaders Spurs

A good point at Tottenham but we were still looking for that elusive to find consistency in both results and performance.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Three more great photos W_C_Z.

Perhaps 1964/65 (the last season for the 1962 Cup Final strip), 1968 the dismantling of the Cricket Field terracing and 1981/82 Division Three Champions.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

If I am understanding this correctly Birmingham City will face another points deduction this season - @KieranMaguire with a summary of the parent company's 2018/19 financial results https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1178719251957473280" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; What a fr...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: All lit up in Folkestone
Replies: 15
Views: 2219

Re: ARTICLE: All lit up in Folkestone

There was one NI game against Wales in the first week of April'63 when their team included Alex Elder, Willie Irvine and Jimmy Mac. However Mac had signed for Stoke some four weeks before this game and incredibly Irvine still had to wait another six weeks before making his first-team debut at Burnley.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

yet another proposed bid for Newcastle https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7509201/TOON-TAKEOVER-Peter-Kenyon-makes-fresh-300m-bid-buy-Newcastle.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; My observations - doesn't value the club at the price Ashley wants (i.e. the money he h...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Athletic
Replies: 49
Views: 5709

Re: The Athletic

Pretty certain Chester Perry has linked a couple of the articles on the Magic Money Tree thread.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Back home and Burnley get win against bottom club Birmingham
Replies: 8
Views: 953

Re: ARTICLE: Back home and Burnley get win against bottom club Birmingham

Doesn't appear to have been the most inspiring of performances against the team at the bottom, but another win and up to third. Last time I left before the end was at Leeds. We were 3-0 down and I missed a superb Ralph Coates goal. Probably the most memorable part was the rare headed goal from Jimm...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Bob Lord: Burnley Born and Bred
Replies: 17
Views: 3139

Re: ARTICLE: Bob Lord: Burnley Born and Bred

5th October'19 until 29th February'20.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

1927. Zerzabelshof. Lost 4-2. n1927.jpg Translation: After a rare sensational fight, surprisingly, the German amateurs won 4: 2 victorious. Hargreaves and Winter fighting for the ball n1927-2.jpg Hardly the ideal way to end the summer tour of Germany in 1927, a 2-4 defeat to the amateurs of FC Nure...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Full names ...
Replies: 46
Views: 4521

Re: Full names ...

Proud to say we named our son Irvine.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Incredibe collection of photos you have at your disposal W_C_Z.

Is it possible you were official photographer for the Club at some point ?
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

On closer inspection of our shirts maybe it's the close season tour of Germany in 1929 ?
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

The very last photo is fascinating me. Is this from our European tour in May 1914 following our FA Cup win ?

Surely that has to be Jerry Dawson our keeper with the most ever appearances for our Club ?

Unbelievable pic.

Where's Tommy Boyle !!
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Working_Class_Zero wrote:Photo is of the 'Under 21s before a tour of West Germany in 1965.
So, Willie Morgan had already played 62 games for our first team by the time of this U21's tour of Germany in the summer of 1965.

Who is our keeper ?
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Hendrick and Wood share the honours in Norwich win
Replies: 23
Views: 1924

Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick and Wood share the honours in Norwich win

I thought Hendrick was superb against Narch but, (yes there's a but). He has quite close ball control and can take players on so why not get in the box more often and maybe create an opportunity for himself or others, or at least draw a foul for a possible penalty. Go on lad, don't be shy. Maybe th...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

Could it be in connection to our winning of the Central League in 1962/63 ?.......or even 1961/62 ?
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

As for the last photo....Len Kinsella is the player next to Ralph Coates on the back row and Billy Gaskill is between Brian O'Neil and Dave Merrington on the front row.

Goodness knows exactly what the occasion is. Perhaps W_C_Z can enlighten us.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley F C in pictures
Replies: 844
Views: 121437

Re: Burnley F C in pictures

The middle pic is brilliant WCZ. Brilliant it most certainly is, as are the other two photos in W_C_Z's latest contribution. Agree with Tricky Trevor that the middle one must be our recognition of Tottenham's successful 1960/61 season. Typical of the humility and sportsmanship of our Club at the ti...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

United's key financial figures for 2018/19 Record fiscal 2019 Revenues of £627.1 million, in line with annual guidance Fiscal 2019 adjusted EBITDA of £185.8 million, in line with annual guidance Fiscal 2019 Operating Profit of £50.0 million all the real details here https://www.businesswire.com/new...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

the EFL have appointed Rick Parry as Chairman https://www.efl.com/news/2019/september/rick-parry-named-as-efl-chairman-designate/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It will be interesting to see what a former Chief Exec of the Premier League (when EFL turned down their offer to negotiat...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Town set for change as Clarets face trip to Newcastle
Replies: 9
Views: 1558

Re: ARTICLE: Town set for change as Clarets face trip to Newcastle

The Newcastle game was the first time we'd seen what many considered to be our strongest line-up of Blacklaw, Angus, Elder, Adamson, Cummings, Miller, Connelly, Mac, Pointer, Robson & Pilkington (although Bobby Seith might well have had an argument to be included). There was a short quote from Alex ...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Town set for change as Clarets face trip to Newcastle
Replies: 9
Views: 1558

Re: ARTICLE: Town set for change as Clarets face trip to Newcastle

Back to winning way even though it was not a vintage performance. George Eastham was a superb player and I think that was his last season at Newcastle before his landmark High Court victory which opened up a whole new era for professional footballers. He moved on to bigger and better things at Arsen...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Sorry Roy not got the time at the moment - if you go to the top of the page and put club valuation in the search box likely to get close to what you are looking for as it is a thread limited search Cheers CP, the main area of debate seems to be in April this year, particularly mid-April (posts 908,...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9991
Views: 1019291

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

following today's news that Prince Abdullah has won the High Court battle for Sheffield United (http://uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=41907" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) @KieramMaguirre posted the following tweet https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/11735659...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Local plumber scores to beat injury hit Clarets
Replies: 7
Views: 1394

Re: ARTICLE: Local plumber scores to beat injury hit Clarets

No suggestion of it at all. Angus was at fault giving away the corner and no mention whatsoever of Elder being at fault in the reports. How about this observation from Tim Quelch..........."Poor Alex made a disastrous start, losing his winger, Tom Finney, at a 6th minute corner. The 'Preston plumbe...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Local plumber scores to beat injury hit Clarets
Replies: 7
Views: 1394

Re: ARTICLE: Local plumber scores to beat injury hit Clarets

ClaretTony wrote:What Elder mistake? Finney headed home a corner from the side of the pitch.
From my memory Alex clearly lost Finney from the corner, but then quickly recovered to give a man of the match performance.