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- Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:26 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings
- Replies: 65
- Views: 16601
- Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings
- Replies: 65
- Views: 16601
Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings
Pope 9
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 7
JBG 7
Brownhill 7
Westwood 7
McNeil 6
Wood 7
Jay 8
Good intent and endeavour in the first half but we looked gassed at the end. Chuffed to bits with the result though.
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 8
Taylor 7
JBG 7
Brownhill 7
Westwood 7
McNeil 6
Wood 7
Jay 8
Good intent and endeavour in the first half but we looked gassed at the end. Chuffed to bits with the result though.
- Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today's footie 21/11/20
- Replies: 106
- Views: 5542
Re: Today's footie 21/11/20
Good game Villa vs Brighton with Brighton more than playing their part. They've not had the best of results this season but Potter has transformed their style of play. There has been some recruitment but also an element of using the players they already had that are comfortable on the ball more (eg ...
- Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Did you spend a few million quid to become treasurer of the junior football team? Haha, no, there was no initial investment but, like most, it costs me plenty in terms of time and materials that I don't reclaim. I take your point but to distil this to pure business is to ignore the moral obligation...
- Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
He's a successful business man, the end game is to make money. It surprises me how many people are prepared to accept a straight read across from business principles to something that MG described more in terms of a passion and a hobby - "a dream come true". I read that his wife, then girlfriend, w...
- Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 40 Things From the ‘00s That Could Make You Some Serious Cash
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2880
Re: 40 Things From the ‘00s That Could Make You Some Serious Cash
If you were lucky enough to buy CT's BFC shares they'd be worth well over 100 grand now! Sorry CT
- Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
His job as majority shareholder is to ensure he gets good return on his investment... Has MG ever cited shareholder wealth maximisation as his goal? In 2017 when he was appointed sole Chairman he said "We [MG and JB] will both continue to strive to better our club for the benefit of our fans and ou...
- Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Is it "right" that MG walks away with £100m (pre tax) after 14 years as a director? Feel free to define "right" however you like.
- Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Whilst we may be less badly affected by covid in terms of revenue, we are suffering disproportionately from covid in other ways. I would say our finances have been managed very well during the vast majority of MG's tenure. He has sought to make the club self sufficient, been creative in terms of pla...
- Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dwight playing for U21 7.30
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2285
Re: Dwight playing for U21 7.30
2-1 Dwight assist from a corner. Looks to be playing wing back behind Hudson-Odoi?
- Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I see there has been movement around local councils merging, to form one larger body. It seems the proposed devolution is starting to gain traction..... I wonder if the naysayers will be back out to call this out as rubbish... When will they learn? Reminds me of someone 🤔... 20201113_191748.jpg Aye...
- Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: One £20-30 million player every year...
- Replies: 59
- Views: 4171
Re: One £20-30 million player every year...
Can't Tony fund that new £20-£30m player from the sale of his shares? I would.
- Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Season Ticket Refunds-Help/Clarification Needed.
- Replies: 293
- Views: 22817
Re: Season Ticket Refunds-Help/Clarification Needed.
Young kids are not going to Have email accounts I've emailed the club pointing this out. Let's see what they say Interesting. I applied for a refund last season and assumed it would cover the STs for me and my boys, given that I paid for them all on the same card. I received less than I was expecti...
- Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
- Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
"Professional football’s complex organisation and lack of transparency have created fertile ground for the use of illegal resources,” the European Commission said. “Questionable sums of money with no apparent or explicable financial return or gain are being invested in the sport.”
- Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Should Robbie Brady get a run of starts?
- Replies: 113
- Views: 8685
Re: Should Robbie Brady get a run of starts?
If JBG is injured ( high probability) then we’d be better playing Jay.. put Jay and Barnes high in the wings push McNeil into the centre and Wood on the middle. It’s the most obvious line up. 4-3-3 in attack and 4-5-1 in defence Alternatively, 4-5-1 in attack and 4-3-3 in defence. The kind of fluid...
- Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Should Robbie Brady get a run of starts?
- Replies: 113
- Views: 8685
Re: Should Robbie Brady get a run of starts?
There’s not enough said about the mental side of suffering injuries. I really wouldn’t be surprised if he has suffered. He was in brilliant form before a pretty freak injury at Leicester and just hasn’t been able to get back to any kind of form or fitness. Really good point. Was talking to the mana...
- Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Should Robbie Brady get a run of starts?
- Replies: 113
- Views: 8685
Re: Does Robbie Brady deserve a run of games?
Maybe but only by default. If fit JBG plays ahead of him. Pushing Brownhill wide to accommodate Stephens didn't work and weakens us in 2 areas. So, maybe, but what is it that Robbie has done to stake a positive claim?
Edit: on that basis, "deserve" is probably the wrong word for me.
Edit: on that basis, "deserve" is probably the wrong word for me.
- Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Chelsea - Player Ratings
- Replies: 71
- Views: 18449
Re: Burnley v Chelsea - Player Ratings
Pope 5 Lowton 5 Long 5 Tarkowski 6 Taylor 5 Brownhill 6 Westwood 4 Stephens 3 McNeil 6 Wood 4 Barnes 5 Jay 4 Got to give some credit to Chelsea who played well but the lack of fight was alarming. Few options when we have the ball and too slow to punish their slack touches on the ball. When we are of...
- Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Youth Team
- Replies: 4
- Views: 594
Re: Youth Team
Won 3-2. Well done young Clarets!
- Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Youth Team
- Replies: 4
- Views: 594
Re: Youth Team
Unwin hat-trick - 3-1
- Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is today's game in doubt? Burnley vs Chelsea 31st Oct
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2860
Re: Is today's game in doubt? Burnley vs Chelsea 31st Oct
Is it bad in Rhyl today?
- Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
If the current owners are motivated by a sense of custodianship then one option would be to cede part ownership to a supporters trust as part of their exit strategy. It would result in smaller personal gains, which would still be considerable, and it could be a means of safeguarding their legacy thr...
- Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Indeed the difference appears that you believe all overseas based fans are teenagers in China - many have the same the same multi-generational and emotional involvement, and your statement appears to resent anyone choosing to become a supporter of our club or at least believe them to be an inferior...
- Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Supporter input in every day running of the club is healthy. Can't disagree there. It certainly could be better. We don't know what stipulations are included in the deal though. There may well be a legal agreement that certain criteria are met in order for the deal to be completed. Such as an amoun...
- Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I understand your ‘thinking’, I’m still laughing. As you are in the face of capitalism. The board spent the money, they took the risk, they invested their expertise they rightly deserve to profit from that. As a person in every other aspect of your life, you invest your money, in return for a servi...
- Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
And how much of the purchase price are you and the fellow members of the supporters trust putting up? Your problem here is that given the keys to the kingdom you’d very likely act in just such a way as the capitalist pigs you so despise comrade. Psst....the supporters stake in my proposal would be ...
- Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Aside from your intriguing assumption about me - I am struggling to find an example of a happy club environment that isn't run with a structured business like approach in the upper levels of the game, you may want to watch games rather than think about revenues, but clubs don't play for long in the...
- Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Supporter involvement is a difficult and much more complex matter than many think, you only have to look at this board to see just how many supporters react with volatile emotions when what a club really needs is a steady and somewhat hard headed approach. Then you also have to look at the quality ...
- Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I would prefer the outgoing shareholders find a solution that puts a supporters voice (potentially in the form of a Trust) on the Board, rather than the incoming shareholders put a slug of equity in SD's hands.
- Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Harlots - BBC2
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2251
Re: Harlots - BBC2
Just watched the first episode of the third series. A quick start, some tongue lashings from Emily and, yes, I'm back on it. Still don't understand the apparent allure of Lucy.
- Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1258278
Re: ALK Capital...
I know nothing about the state of takeover negotiations. But if I did, I would state what I could without breaking any legal or moral obligations. If that meant I could say nothing then I would say nothing. I wouldn't dripfeed cryptic clues and snippets, have hissy fits at people challenging my "aut...
- Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10001
- Views: 1024581
- Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Third Kit
- Replies: 81
- Views: 7572
Re: Third Kit
That photo from the club website looks like it’s a white shirt, photographed thru a yellow filter. It’s just wrong.... much better picture supplied by Umbro. It's all about opinions but I prefer the club pic. The yellow looks more subdued, more mellow. The claret on the Umbro pic is also a bit red ...
- Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Statement on PPV, Season Tickets and Project Big Picture
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3422
Re: ARTICLE: Statement on PPV, Season Tickets and Project Big Picture
It sounds like the clubs are taking the lion's share. The broadcaster costs are relatively fixed per game which means our games will have a lower recovery rate (fixed costs absorption rate) compared with games involving the Big 6. Just getting it out there before we are told to be grateful that we a...
- Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Harry Wilson
- Replies: 768
- Views: 100138
Re: Harry Wilson
This!
- Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Recognise this player?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2411
Re: Recognise this player?
Yes, I do. He used to peep through my letterbox until I caught him at it and sh@t in his eyes.
- Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Statement on PPV, Season Tickets and Project Big Picture
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3422
Re: ARTICLE: Statement on PPV, Season Tickets and Project Big Picture
SD's comments on PBP are just gobbledygook. Maybe he shouldn't be asked but he certainly shouldn't answer based on that showing.
- Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Extended Transfer Window Autumn 2020 (Must Contain Link)’ thread
- Replies: 221
- Views: 23402
Re: Extended Transfer Window Autumn 2020 (Must Contain Link)’ thread
The whole point? Well, only if you ignore the bit about the greedy clubs wanting total control of the rules.
- Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League - Project Big Picture
- Replies: 180
- Views: 14337
Re: Premier League - Project Big Picture
There are two routes to profitability. One is to increase your revenue, irrespective of what is happening to the total size of the pie, and the other is to reduce your costs. The most interesting part of the US sports model is the salary cap but that would only work if there was agreement across Eur...
- Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League - Project Big Picture
- Replies: 180
- Views: 14337
Re: Premier League - Project Big Picture
No they acknowledge that Project Big Profit cannot continue but get the guarantee of the discussions they really want to have, and for which they are more prepared than anyone - given the 3 years they have been working on this You have to remember these two clubs were given a blackball opportunity ...
- Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League - Project Big Picture
- Replies: 180
- Views: 14337
Re: Premier League - Project Big Picture
Not sure that the theory of Economic Profit is particularly enlightening when looking at BFC. You may as well look at PBT or EBITDA trends given the absence of long term debt and the stability of our equity. The difference, from what I can see, is a relatively arbritrary calculation of the cost of e...
- Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Premier League - Project Big Picture
- Replies: 180
- Views: 14337
Re: Premier League - Project Big Picture
I also don't like the idea that the 2 major drivers here are both American and not British owners who at least may better understand the historical structure of the game here and how it affects communities and fans outside the big, glamour clubs. I'm not sure these people get that and how many fans...
- Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today's Football 11-10-20
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1694
Re: Today's Football 11-10-20
Kev coming off with a shiner at best, concussion at worst.
- Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Asda
- Replies: 38
- Views: 4123
- Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Match thread v Magpies
- Replies: 809
- Views: 50582
Re: Match thread v Magpies
More like Ken and Mike.FactualFrank wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:48 pmI agree, but I feel Ian and Tony is like Sean and Mike - unlikely to be repaired.
- Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Asda
- Replies: 38
- Views: 4123
- Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:15 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fish or foul (sic)?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 776
Fish or foul (sic)?
I don't understand why some posters find pleasure in sharing insincere views and then mock other posters who take their views at face value. Sometimes the views are unlikely, maybe provocative but plausible, and in some instances these posters actually share contradictory views on a subject. The con...
- Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Harry Wilson
- Replies: 768
- Views: 100138
Re: Harry Wilson
Andy Jones from the Athletic saying Liverpool wanted £20m including £15m upfront/guaranteed. If that’s the case then not surprised we weren’t prepared to meet them. But surely the positive is that we do have at least £12m to spend (unless that was only with Tark leaving). Surely we have other targe...
- Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mike King
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3270
Re: Mike King
I had never heard of him before but with a name like Mike King (hope it wasn't his stage name), could he have been anything but an MC?
I think those that know it should share his Fruit Cake joke as a tribute.
I think those that know it should share his Fruit Cake joke as a tribute.