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by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 19427

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

It's never offside because he doesn't impact play - the keeper is never saving that.

However let's not pretend that VAR has cottbus the game here.
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bad as Laws era
Replies: 70
Views: 2978

Re: Bad as Laws era

Worse. Much much worse.

Worst we have been since Cotterill's dreadful run
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 19427

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

It's clear the team selection just matches the club philosophy. It doesn't matter if we lose points each game because of Trafford, we need to develop him at all costs. Same goes to a bunch of other players. That's why we continue with Amdouni and don't play the likes of Muric and Cork. Personally I...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 19427

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

Absolutely dreadful, unacceptable performance. The team can’t even pass the ball forward with any kind of quality. A team with no confidence at all. I wish they could just relegate us already so we don’t have to suffer for the remaining games, just put us out of our misery and let’s get this squad ...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 19427

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

It's not even just the lad himself - you can see the general hesitancy and nervousness it causes our defence. It's clear he's been instructed to punt it long more often and just now and again play it out short, but he can't even do that correctly. It's totally derailed our tactical style and turned...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Must win game
Replies: 9
Views: 616

Re: Must win game

Not many other options really. I'd have started him instead of Amdouni myself.

It's been a weary performance all round really. Minor flashes here and there but not a single shot off. Trafford (despite the stupid error) has kept it at 0-0.

It's desperately dull to watch rhough
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 19427

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

aggi wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:40 pm
Was that a red? Looked harsh from the stands
He's dragging him down to stop him having a clear strike on goal. It's a red every day of the Week and 3 tines on sunday
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 19427

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:39 pm
Was it balls.
Just seen the replay, ref no choice.
I said immediately it was a red. Mental from Brownhill
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Palace Match thread
Replies: 733
Views: 19427

Re: Burnley vs Palace Match thread

To be fair it's played back to Trafford with no options but just smack it long.

This is 100% on the management though.
by BabylonClaret
Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

Just out of interest, why did you post a lot of criticism after the Fulham game, and again after the Arsenal game, but you went quiet for the week of the Liverpool game? You may have been away of course, but it struck me that that was the same XI, who outplayed the title leaders at Anfield for larg...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cork.
Replies: 42
Views: 3548

Re: Cork.

Sober. I Miss Tark's and Mee... Defenders that don't turn their backs (it's a football not a cannon ball - it stings nothing more). Our defenders and MF so poor at defending. Disjointed. Not a chance under Sean D this would happen... ... and even BPF is/was a better keeper than Trafford ! VK needs ...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

Think Richards might have a different opinion if it wasn't one of his mates in charge. That might contribute to the relatively easy ride VK has had in the media this season. Aye. I thought so too. He was kinda laughing when he said it as though he's hoping rather than thi king but JJ was absolutely...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

Ric_C wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:13 pm
JBG is more invaluable than you think, especially in the championship
He should be starting every week right now - we look a lot better with him in the team
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7385

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Let's be honest lads...we got promoted with a very very good Championship team with 100+ points. The EPL is so much more demanding...our team now is akin to Ford Escorts and Vauxhall Vivas against Ferrari's and Lamborghini 's. You are just not going to get anything from the top 8. Good performance'...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

Massengo? Christ, I hope you are not pinning our hopes on this lad? No but he's a possible squad option maybe in the league below - if we are struggling - so the gaps are possibly less than we might have. f course that assumes Berge doesn't think '**** this for a game of soldiers' and jump at the f...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Relegation accepted
Replies: 37
Views: 2893

Re: Relegation accepted

We’ve been done for months. I got called out (by cockney claret I think) for having a go after a defeat (Chelsea I think) because of how pitiful we were and how we rolled over when the going got tough and that has not changed. We are one of if not the most pathetic side the premier league has seen ...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

So is big mouth O’Hara telling porkies then? And then the other pundit (Dean Saunders I think) asking how VK had survived? Legitimate question in my view. Of course the press and media will start escalating how poor we are. They have been saying it since Christmas anyway. They are only saying what ...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

To be fair we have Sander as Corks replacement- if we can persuade Browny to stop a year or 2 that may help but if not we have Cullen and Massinga as well. I'd be offering the e tension to JGB though But we do need to sort the full backs , can't see Charlie wanting to stay without first seeing if we...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Home before the final whistle
Replies: 121
Views: 5610

Re: Home before the final whistle

Cool, that makes sense. From My perspective I enjoyed the fact that the club didn’t buy into all of the myths about football… that you could only play one way, that you had to spend huge money on over valued footballers with questionable morals and attitudes, and I enjoyed that hard work, endeavour...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:52 am
The 3 huge differences between us and Luton imo, fight, physicality and actually wanting to be in this league.
There is another - a plan and purpose that the team is all working to. We look like we don't play with each other all week
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

Anthonini wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:10 pm
I don't think VK is to blame for Burnley being a weak team as they always have been. The competition is just too much for us. What else can you say?
That's utter shite. We qualified for Europe and had 4 decent seasons where we comfortably survived
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VK OUT !!
Replies: 347
Views: 15582

Re: VK OUT !!

This is a really tough one isn't it? Since Christmas he has looked pretty much lost, his interviews are full of cliche and he doesn't seem to be able to put a team out that can compete. Obviously potting him isn't going to change our chance of staying up so its all really about whether you have fait...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Relegation accepted
Replies: 37
Views: 2893

Re: Relegation accepted

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:05 pm
Not yet 7 games possible winnable
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

This team will be lucky to break 20. We don't create chances, we can't keep a clean sheet. Football isn't played on paper. We couldn't even beat Luton.

We are down and out
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cowards
Replies: 76
Views: 4851

Re: Cowards

I'd argue today felt like it was the most in form Arsenal team we've played in the last decade. Doesn't hide our inadequacies but we weren't facing the 'normal' Arsenal, they are bang in form having won their first 5 games of the year for the first time in their history scoring 21 goals in the proc...
by BabylonClaret
Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Superbowl
Replies: 77
Views: 3550

Re: Superbowl

Yep it was. Absolutely amazing show - bit of ott for the achtung baby stuff and more stripped back in the middle then some Epic stuff for the encore - felt like younwere stood in the desert for Streets ...
by BabylonClaret
Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Superbowl
Replies: 77
Views: 3550

Re: Superbowl

We were in Vegas to see U2 (first time there) last week and have to say the Superbowl buzz in the city was pretty good. And VC is right - the Allegient stadium is superb lit up.
by BabylonClaret
Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Last gasp goal wins unlikely point
Replies: 170
Views: 6281

Re: REPORT: Last gasp goal wins unlikely point

And it's also amplified by a Luton side showing us how to make a decent fist of staying up. They might slide in like us but by crikey they have gone down kicking and screaming
by BabylonClaret
Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Last gasp goal wins unlikely point
Replies: 170
Views: 6281

Re: REPORT: Last gasp goal wins unlikely point

I think probably the key thing (like Jedi said) is that we are pretty much down. Snatching late points isn't enough. And to be fair we scored with a fair bit of tine to get the second, the crowd lifted and the next time we actually put a shot against them was in injury time when we scored. There's n...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match presser
Replies: 183
Views: 8563

Re: Post match presser

The 'bad manager' comme t is a bit premature (although it's not looking great at the moment) but the first point is spot on. Too much of the acceptance if what we are seeing at the moment is hinged on the 'this league is streets ahead of the Championship and we will boss it next season with this tea...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fed up
Replies: 147
Views: 6036

Re: Fed up

Simple Question. Do you think our current team and management ( starting team yesterday) will get us immediate promotion from the Championship ? I assume that is the clubs Plan B if we are relegated Sorry - missed the posts in between. Simple answer is no. I think they are too disjointed, too easil...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fed up
Replies: 147
Views: 6036

Re: Fed up

No.
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fed up
Replies: 147
Views: 6036

Re: Fed up

Too inconsistent and not enough end product. Interesting the 1st goal came from 2 new boys who had the heart and desire ro make it happen. We don't see that enough.

It's dull and joyless
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fed up
Replies: 147
Views: 6036

Re: Fed up

Keeper is probably most weird one - although I've been squaring that circle by saying Muric could do it in the Champ but perhaps might be harder in the prem and would cost us too much But he did pretty well against Everton and Spurs (made some mistakes too - although he isn't playing regularly so no...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fed up
Replies: 147
Views: 6036

Re: Fed up

We tried signing Maatsen earlier in the window, Chelsea would not let him go given how well he’d done in pre-season. Re. Muric, I may be wrong here, but I’m quite sure you were one of the Muric critics on this board last season. Pretty sure you are wrong there. In any case it's whataboutery to pop ...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fed up
Replies: 147
Views: 6036

Re: Fed up

"Fed up" - I think that pretty much sums my feelings up for this season. I'm not even angry which, slightly, disappoints me. As much as I'd accepted promotion from December last season, I feel I've accepted relegation as soon (or sooner) this. An 94th minute equaliser usually has me jumping round w...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fed up
Replies: 147
Views: 6036

Re: Fed up

What exactly was dismantled? We had 4 loan players, 1 we signed, 1 didn’t want to come, 1 went to top of Bundesliga for 20m, 1 played half the season with us and went back to the Championship. Apart from Muric and Zaroury, the majority of the promoted team have played. Cullen, Roberts, Al-Dakhil, B...
by BabylonClaret
Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match presser
Replies: 183
Views: 8563

Re: Post match presser

Luton are completing dispelling this myth. He’s just a bad manager This. Someone further up the thread said once Fulham got into the game they looked really dominant. Nearly everyone does at the moment. This team has zero heart. Which is unsurprising given we've got the worst ever record at the top...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match presser
Replies: 183
Views: 8563

Re: Post match presser

We only pay out his long contract until he would work again, which wouldn’t be long, so yes we can afford to sack him. Shame for you though is he’s here for the foreseeable which I’m personally pleased about 👍🏻👍🏻 If we sacked him nobody at the top level would touch him. He looks completely shell-sh...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match presser
Replies: 183
Views: 8563

Re: Post match presser

Quite right, we were looking good but like so many times this season, conceding a goal knocked the stuffing out of us. We do that most games. Look decent for 10 minutes or so, fail to really trouble the keeper, then the opposing team get a grip and we drift out of the game. Often we concede and the...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Fulham - Player Ratings
Replies: 115
Views: 7149

Re: Burnley v Fulham - Player Ratings

Truly awful bar the brief moments that rescued the points. It's the least entertained I've been since the winless run under Cotterill. People are banging on about how we are learning, Vincent is learning and the step up is enormous but Luton will finish well above us and have scored 8 goals this wee...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Esteve
Replies: 35
Views: 2932

Re: Esteve

Looked like he might be a decent player at this level which makes it all the more baffling why he didn't start
by BabylonClaret
Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The positive thread
Replies: 42
Views: 2168

Re: The positive thread

I wonder if any manager has gone from hero to zero so fast. He's learning too remember, don't write him off. I'm still very positive, given where we were and the squad we had when we last got relegated. I honestly thought that following season we might be in another relegation scrap. By some miracl...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Traitors
Replies: 103
Views: 7964

Re: The Traitors

Mollie was never going to turn. Jazz should have talked to Evie and worked through how to keep her in. He was pretty certain about Harry (hence his red flame) so if that was the case he should have realised that the ' they thought I was fodder but I had the shield' couldn't possibly be true. That on...
by BabylonClaret
Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Can we avoid relegation? Points forecast.
Replies: 87
Views: 4270

Re: Can we avoid relegation? Points forecast.

Blimey are you French or Italian?....they wave white flags when the chips are down. I'd have hated to be alongside you in the trenches...your white flag together with your white rabbit would betray all. No need for insults here. Bottom line is we are a team that is in the habit of losing. Our attac...
by BabylonClaret
Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Fofana is first January signing
Replies: 94
Views: 5975

Re: ARTICLE: Fofana is first January signing

Anyway b ack to topic ...

I see hes got quite an infectious smile - the last forward like that didn't do too badly ;)
by BabylonClaret
Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Fofana is first January signing
Replies: 94
Views: 5975

Re: ARTICLE: Fofana is first January signing

Maybe you should watch yesterdays game before commenting. Amdounis second half was god awful. I hwve absolutely no issue with him, hes clearly a talented player but hes getting away with all sorts this season. It cost us massively at Spurs and it could have done v Luton as well. I said your comment...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards
Replies: 154
Views: 7578

Re: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards

I'm with TsarBombs here. I actually think he's struggling (he sounded a broken man last night on the radio whilst I was we ding my way back k over the Pennines) and I also think anyone else would probably ly do a better job now. However I don't think someone else would turn it round for us to stay u...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recruiting character
Replies: 87
Views: 3998

Re: Recruiting character

You’ll get ridiculed for that I suggested we missed him,and the usual suspects sarcastically came out with names that had obviously retired years ago ,I blind man on galloping horse can see that keeping him another 12 months would have at least give us some steel in the team ,but it’s a cunning pla...
by BabylonClaret
Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 93
Views: 3732

Re: Amdouni

He's our top scorer now isn't he with 4? Well he's played every game for more or less 90 each time. Our attack is the worst in the league and without the 5 goals against Sheffield would be on 16 goals for. That is utter shite considering we have a superstar like Amdouni pulling the strings for us g...
by BabylonClaret
Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards
Replies: 154
Views: 7578

Re: We’re as good as down, Kompany is clueless, we have gone backwards

Madness subs again (like West ham) but a shocker of a decision to allow the goal.

That said I am horrified Luton had more possession if those stats are right :o

We are down. I think ww night scrape 25 points if we are lucky cos this bunch of lightweights couldn't hold onto a pie e of flypaper