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- Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stats so far
- Replies: 25
- Views: 1912
Re: Stats so far
Quite an interesting graphic of which areas of the pitch Champ clubs control so far Look at ours :lol: Quite a bit at this link https://theanalyst.com/2022/08/english-championship-stats-2022-23/ Very similar to Man City's from February last season: https://preview.redd.it/ucjgnfgyllg81.png?width=96...
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stats so far
- Replies: 25
- Views: 1912
Re: Stats so far
It's a very small sample size at the moment, 3 or 4 games. The algorithm can't be expected to be that accurate or precise with such a small data set. 2 of our chances go in and we're top of the league. The point is that it's a better indicator of team strength and predictor of final finishing posit...
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stats so far
- Replies: 25
- Views: 1912
Re: Stats so far
What exactly shows that it's flawed?
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Possession Cup
- Replies: 113
- Views: 5959
Re: Possession Cup
Some stats are better predictors than others, xG is probably the best we have.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 1:47 pmThe stats kids would love a Possession Cup XG League double.....
- Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Possession Cup
- Replies: 113
- Views: 5959
Re: Possession Cup
We're averaging almost 1.5 xG per game and an xG difference of +0.9 per game. That's really good, although it's only 4 games.
Keep doing what we're doing and the goals and wins will come.
Keep doing what we're doing and the goals and wins will come.
- Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Cornet remains a Claret after move to West Ham
- Replies: 83
- Views: 4657
- Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Martin Tyler Slip Up
- Replies: 22
- Views: 2423
Re: Martin Tyler Slip Up
What if he actually said "Hillsborough and other, hooligan-related, issues"? Totally different meaning, and I'm pretty sure that would have been his intention
- Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer finances
- Replies: 99
- Views: 5511
Re: Transfer finances
lol Jakub
- Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is long-ball football dead?
- Replies: 113
- Views: 5083
Re: Is long-ball football dead?
I doubt he could have with the budget available to him.gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:18 amIf Dyche wanted to play that way, he could have recruited the players to allow him to play that way. The players we had were Dyches players.
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton fans can wear virtual shirts
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2555
Re: Everton fans can wear virtual shirts
Hmm, I'm not the one who appears to be refusing to admit they were wrong.
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton fans can wear virtual shirts
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2555
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton fans can wear virtual shirts
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2555
Re: Everton fans can wear virtual shirts
The article suggests to me that they are selling photos of shirts based on one of these semi-fictional NFTs. Just like when you buy an actual shirt from the club shop, it's yours and no-one else can wear that particular bit of cloth although they can wear one just like it, with these virtual shirts...
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton fans can wear virtual shirts
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2555
Re: Everton fans can wear virtual shirts
I take it you don't know either? It explains it in the article so I'd wager that he does have a good idea what it is. This. You obviously read the article as your post includes a phrase from it. Might I suggest using Google for the bits that you don't understand. That's if you actually want to unde...
- Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:21 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton fans can wear virtual shirts
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2555
- Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: It's time for Max to say
- Replies: 90
- Views: 6154
Re: It's time for Max to say
How can it not from an accounting and reporting period point of view? Because the transfer fee is spread over the period of the player's contract for profit and loss purposes. So if they paid £20m and gave him a 5 year contract the charge for each year would be £4m. Edit - and I think FFP looks at ...
- Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: It's time for Max to say
- Replies: 90
- Views: 6154
Re: It's time for Max to say
Looks like the release clause is only valid if someone pays the full amount up front. Both Everton and Newcastle are said to be reluctant to do this for FFP reasons. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11064417/Newcastle-make-approach-Burnley-star-Maxwel-Cornet-Eddie-Howe-keen-add-wi...
- Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Maatsen
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3362
Re: Maatsen
Very impressive tonight. Chelsea don't half churn out some good players.
- Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Match Thread - Huddersfield v VK’s mighty Clarets (ONE YEAR ON)
- Replies: 504
- Views: 21364
Re: Match Thread - Huddersfield v VK’s mighty Clarets
Great half of football. We look a class above but let's not get carried away just yet.
- Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Barnes in the Championship
- Replies: 51
- Views: 5387
Re: Barnes in the Championship
Who'd have thought it?
- Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: We Have Always sold to Survive.
- Replies: 75
- Views: 2940
Re: We Have Always sold to Survive.
It's not rocket science. There's an old Ford Cortina down the showroom. It's a bit knackered but there's £50k in used notes in the boot. You buy it for £52k..and pay the salesman with £2k out of your wallet and the £50k from the boot. Everyones happy...apart from the car, which doesn't know where i...
- Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is 25/1 to be relegated too big ??
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1091
Re: Is 25/1 to be relegated too big ??
Put your money where your mouth is and lump on if you think it's too big.
Don't forget to post a screenshot of your bet on here
Don't forget to post a screenshot of your bet on here
- Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1257920
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Can you really not see? There is more to "value of the company" than what the balance sheet says. Even if we forget the cash, before the takeover we had no loan creditors and no loan debtors. After the takeover we had a £65m loan creditor on which interest of 10% is payable every year, and a £65m l...
- Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1257920
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
When a man with no money promises to pay you £112m, it doesn't make you a millionaire. ALK haven't got any money and they won't be able to pay the loan back unless they sell the club for more than they paid for it . If you genuinely think paying £112m to a company that is skint doesn't reduce the v...
- Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1257920
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
It hasn't been taken out yet, it's there as an asset on the balance sheet and would presumably be repayable when ALK sell the club. So no it hasn't reduced the value.
Relegation will have though.
- Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Dwight’s right for Everton
- Replies: 180
- Views: 8657
Re: ARTICLE: Dwight’s right for Everton
Massive shame but far too good a player to be playing in the Championship.
Wish him well.
Wish him well.
- Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
It wasn't a rumour, so not on topic.agreenwood wrote: ↑Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:51 amFair play for staying on topic. Didn’t work like, but you gave it a go.
- Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:23 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How did we manage to be relegated?
- Replies: 57
- Views: 3299
Re: How did we manage to be relegated?
Variance. The luck ran out.
- Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Welcome to Cat 2
- Replies: 139
- Views: 6769
Re: Welcome to Cat 2
Don't you think McNally will be first choice?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:12 amYes because of the players available? I can’t pick players that arnt fit?
I highly suspect our back four will be
Roberts, THB, Riley, Maatsen when everyone is fit and firing
- Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12774
- Views: 1257920
Re: Talk Sport - Nick Pope Loan
Probably because it's standard practice for transfers.Winstonswhite wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:17 pmWhy are Newcastle paying in instalments is the question I’d be asking?!
- Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
Payment terms of a transfer fee doesn't have any impact on the calculation of profit/loss for FFP.timscoot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:13 amI'm guessing that's got more to do with Financial Fair play rules . https://true-faith.co.uk/for-ffps-sake- ... le-united/
- Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:32 pmAgreed but prolific, to me, is 25+ and that isn’t Ash.
It isn't anybody.
- Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: How hopeful are you of an instant PL return
- Replies: 144
- Views: 6987
- Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
- Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
- Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Mee the Bee
- Replies: 71
- Views: 4343
Re: ARTICLE: Mee the Bee
It's Bertie Bee you idiot.
- Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Collins departs for Wolves after one year at Burnley
- Replies: 221
- Views: 12733
- Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Looking to buy a car
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1493
Re: Looking to buy a car
Thick
- Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
Confirmed by who? Both clubs say it's undisclosed.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:56 pmJason O’Connor is saying the final fee is confirmed at 20.65m
- Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
Sorry to make a boring financial point but there is also a tax angle too, which is going up to 25% soon so I’ll use that % as an example. If (say) we sell a player for £20m we would pay tax on that profit of £5m and only end up with £15m (obviously reinvesting some of it is then an option too but l...
- Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley fans being over-optimistic?
- Replies: 110
- Views: 6747
Re: Burnley fans being over-optimistic?
I see a lot of Burnley fans on social media (and this forum) making really positive forecasts re the new season. That’s not a bad thing but I can’t see much evidence for this positivity. :shock: Is there not a danger that having such high hopes they might quickly turn to disappointment and then ang...
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
You got a text from Matt Cooper?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:32 pmNot trying to spin anything I got a text with the exact message I posted. Didn’t get a tweet.
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
Good job it was James and not Jason, or I would be worried.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:59 pmJames O Connor
Has just tweeted:
Nathan Collins to Wolves
Big loss for Burnley but a fantastic signing by Wolves. I think it will be a great fit for Big Nathan aswell
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
Dear god, the overreactions to every bit of news are mental.
- Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Natural born goal scorer - Who should we be targeting?
- Replies: 45
- Views: 4139
Re: Natural born goal scorer - Who should we be targeting?
I think people forget the gulf in quality between the PL and the Championship. Rodriguez would easily get into double figures as a regular starter.
- Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is Betfred taking a chance on us ?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 3753
Re: Is Betfred taking a chance on us ?
West Ham failed to beat us twice, were we better than them?dougcollins wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:56 amAye, so much better than Norwich that we failed to beat them twice.
- Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Oldies but not necessarily goodies
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1376
- Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Oldies but not necessarily goodies
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1376
- Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Oldies but not necessarily goodies
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1376
Re: Oldies but not necessarily goodies
Gordon Cowans
Alan Harper
Andrew Cole
Alan Harper
Andrew Cole
- Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:35 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
- Replies: 10054
- Views: 1113217
Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION
Who are you talking about? Jay Rodriguez has only played one season at this level in the last decade, granted he got 22, but to be 'established' at this level he'd have to play a few seasons at least Ashley Barnes' best season at this level was 11 goals. Matej Vydra is now a free agent Weghorst and...