An ACL where the player is back playing in 4-5 months (VK said he could be back fro the end of the season)?
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- Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Koleosho injury
- Replies: 112
- Views: 20378
Re: Koleosho injury
- Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Mike Tresor
- Replies: 50
- Views: 9806
Re: Mike Tresor
It's a funny one with Tresor...I don't think he's a winger. He might have played from the left in Belgium but not as a winger but as more of a left forward (a bit like Brereton-Diaz, if you will). Whenever he comes on he seems incapable of holding any width and giving us the outlet that we need and ...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Koleosho injury
- Replies: 112
- Views: 20378
Re: Koleosho injury
Koleosho had played well and caused them problems - they were playing their reserve full backs because of injuries. Semedo is their reserve right back? I thought he was first choice but happy to be corrected. The point is that, at 0-0 and playing quite well, JBG wasn’t a ludicrous choice of sub giv...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Koleosho injury
- Replies: 112
- Views: 20378
Re: Koleosho injury
Rather than say JBG was the wrong sub, it would probably be more relevant to ask why VK couldn’t see that this change took our only outlet away and we lacked pace. Surely 10-15 minutes after this change he could see this himself (like we all could) and should’ve then acted on it accordingly by repla...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ekdal
- Replies: 39
- Views: 5580
Re: Ekdal
Yep 100% correct. The chance only comes because of his poor touch. Berge is 100% at fault. It’s only people with agendas saying O’Shea. Who I thought had a strong game Berge’s touch was poor/heavy. No doubt. But how can it be 100% Berge’s fault when O’Shea’s pass put him in such a situation? They w...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Koleosho injury
- Replies: 112
- Views: 20378
Re: Koleosho injury
Amazing how many people are using hindsight to suggest JBG was the wrong sub.
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 3 minutes injury time
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3267
Re: 3 minutes injury time
First of all, it should have been far more than 3 minutes in total. And I’m not convinced we still played the full 3 minutes additional time.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:30 amDidn’t it finish on 5 or thereabouts we weren’t scoring with 3, 30 or 300.
- Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wolves v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 67
- Views: 9148
Re: Wolves v Burnley - Player Ratings
Trafford 6 - very little to do but why didn’t he just pick the ball up instead of passing out to O’Shea for their goal? Huge inexperience. Vitinho 5 - poor defensively and also in ball retention. O’Shea 4 - shaky on the ball and dreadful pass for their goal. Ekdal 6 - calm and assured. Was up agains...
- Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:29 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Heckingbottom to be sacked
- Replies: 56
- Views: 9605
Re: Heckingbottom to be sacked
No shock. Can’t say it’s not been coming…
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Sheffield United - Player Ratings
- Replies: 80
- Views: 9012
Re: Burnley v Sheffield United - Player Ratings
…..and then produced nothing.
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Sheffield United - Player Ratings
- Replies: 80
- Views: 9012
Re: Burnley v Sheffield United - Player Ratings
Yep me- I thought that whilst he saw plenty of the ball, his end product going forwards was hit and miss and that in the first half he was the player against which any joy Sheffield United had came. But clearly a minority view which is of course fine! I gave him a 7 but 100% agree with your view. H...
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Sheffield United - Player Ratings
- Replies: 80
- Views: 9012
Re: Burnley v Sheffield United - Player Ratings
Trafford 8 - comfortable and composed. Excellent distribution today. Vitinho 7 - played his part by doing the basics well enough but he must have had 12-15 opportunities in good attacking positions and didn’t find a teammate ONCE. His final ball is as bad as we’ve had from any player. Taylor 8 - set...
- Fri Dec 01, 2023 5:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team for Sheff United?
- Replies: 90
- Views: 8490
Re: Team for Sheff United?
His deficiency against West Ham wasn't his defensive skills but his inability to create anything when in acres of space. Obviously the role of the right back is completely different when JBG is playing compared to Benson or Trevor. I agree, a right back is one of the serious priorities, alongside o...
- Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 805
- Views: 71769
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
New episode out now in the usual places! *Grabs tin hat* - We've done a bit of a Debrief special (beginning to think we should call the Monday episodes 'The Post-Mortem'! :lol:) on whether the club should stick or twist with Kompany! Thoughts etc welcomed as always! https://pod.link/1688380656 Will...
- Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Does Ekdal start.....
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3762
Re: Does Ekdal start.....
But but but but but he got "burnt for pace" once in the Championship so he's way too slow......
- Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Under-21s back in league action at Birmingham
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1185
Re: ARTICLE: Under-21s back in league action at Birmingham
Can we assume Benson is now back in contention with the first team in his absence in the u21 team today?
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 290325
Re: January transfer window rumours.
Expect a few apologies after Vitinho pocketed Martinelli 👀 More to come from him…. Crazy what an extended run in the side can do for someone Apologies??? Haha, yeah, alright…… He put in an ‘ok’ performance in a team playing a low block that still got beat. Here’s another way of looking at it; all t...
- Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tom Heaton a play coach role?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 2174
Re: Tom Heaton a play coach role?
I don't recall handling crosses being one of Heaton's strong points. 100% accurate. It is a total myth that Heaton came back into the team at the expense of Hart due to his ‘coming for crosses’. Heaton was just as bad if not worse at staying on his line. Heaton’s mere presence in the team, his soli...
- Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arsenal v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 75
- Views: 7227
Re: Arsenal v Burnley - Player Ratings
The best midfielder at the club by a distance.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:51 pmPleased to see all the high marks for Berge. I thought he was immense today for us in midfield.
- Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arsenal v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 75
- Views: 7227
Re: Arsenal v Burnley - Player Ratings
Trafford 4 - dreadful goalkeeping for the second goal….which was a crucial moment in the game. Looked suspect (again) with any crossed ball. Vitinho 6 - stuck to his task and defended well. Didn’t offer much going the other way but i don’t think that was his primary role today. O’Shea 3 - this lad i...
- Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team v Arsenal
- Replies: 46
- Views: 3793
Re: Team v Arsenal
Trafford
Roberts
O’Shea
Ekdal
Beyer
Taylor
Brownhill
Cullen
Berge
JBG
Koleosho
Block it up! Stay in the game as long as possible.
Roberts
O’Shea
Ekdal
Beyer
Taylor
Brownhill
Cullen
Berge
JBG
Koleosho
Block it up! Stay in the game as long as possible.
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 290325
Re: January transfer window rumours.
1) Few marauding runs has set up a few of our chances 2) Getting the ball in space is usually the sign of a decent player that can read a game 3) That's what he's been instructed to do Yep he's made mistakes, not saying he's a world beater. No more mistakes than Roberts who loves passing to the opp...
- Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 290325
Re: January transfer window rumours.
Oof wouldn't go that far. I just think that while he does have a mistake in him and can get dispossessed, it's not as drastic as people make out and for his age he's still got time to develop, plus just has that hard to quantify look of a player who's maybe not good enough now but not far off abrup...
- Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 290325
Re: January transfer window rumours.
I think that’s harsh in all honesty. He didn’t play much then when he started growing into it (like a lot of our team did) he got injured. Yeah he had a bad game at reading away but I believe it was the first one back after a significant period out of the side. Was causing problems at Baggies away....
- Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 290325
Re: January transfer window rumours.
I think Darko would perform better than some have right now. Looks a player that could be suited to the Prem, quite direct and physical for a winger. Hardly like our lot have been ripping it up. Churlinov was way off it whenever the got the chance in the Championship. I can't think why he would be ...
- Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: January transfer window rumours.
- Replies: 2353
- Views: 290325
Re: January transfer window rumours.
I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that we need a striker, midfielder and two new full backs - a right sided one and a left sided one. As Stan would say, "A blind man on a galloping horse could see that"! Whether they are permanent or loans is up for debate - I don't actually care as long as th...
- Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings
- Replies: 73
- Views: 8589
Re: Burnley v Crystal Palace - Player Ratings
Trafford 5 - didn’t have much to do. I expect a goalkeeper that cost £14m to be able to chip a pass to a full back without scuffing it and putting it out of play. Vitinho 4 - saw LOADS of the ball but doesn’t have the pace, strength or ability to do anything with it. He was our outlet today and crea...
- Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Positives.
- Replies: 82
- Views: 7034
Re: Positives.
- VK has surely seen enough tonight in Redmond, JBL, Muric and Delcroix for them to be given a go at the weekend. - Berge was really good. - Tresor had his best game for us so far. Muric’s passing was so much better and a Redmond showed glimpses of being able to look after the ball but didn’t threa...
- Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Positives.
- Replies: 82
- Views: 7034
Re: Positives.
I actually thought Vitinho was our best attacking outlet Vitinho was dreadful again. He saw plenty of the ball in good areas but the move generally broke down because of his lack of quality/pace/ability. Our ball retention was let down by his play - he often gave the ball away with poor passing. A ...
- Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Looks like we are buying Tresor
- Replies: 124
- Views: 9621
Re: Looks like we are buying Tresor
It’s not his ability that is in question; it’s energy, urgency and desire that seems to be lacking.
Does the deal still ‘kick in’ if we’re not in the PL?
Does the deal still ‘kick in’ if we’re not in the PL?
- Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Club update following supporter feedback
- Replies: 175
- Views: 11734
Re: Club update following supporter feedback
Can't be done because it blocks the view of the people in the lounges, at least some of whom are there because they aren't fit enough to sit anywhere else in the ground, and of course even the ones that can stand for 90+ minutes wouldn't necessarily think it's the best use of their money. They aren...
- Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Club update following supporter feedback
- Replies: 175
- Views: 11734
Re: Club update following supporter feedback
How much difference is safe standing going to make? It’ll probably be in the cricket field stand….where everyone already stands. Pointless. And generally they stand with their mates and not in their allocated seat which then makes that section of the ground look half full. Would be better having the...
- Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brentford v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 59
- Views: 11469
Re: Brentford v Burnley - Player Ratings
Trafford 4 - might have made some saves but also contributed to a poor defensive display with his hesitation and distribution. Roberts 4 - stupid 1st booking which came back to bite him on the arse. Can now see why we were linked with so many right backs this summer - he’s not up to it at this level...
- Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Have we bet the ranch ?
- Replies: 103
- Views: 7016
Re: Have we bet the ranch ?
Garnerssoap wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:34 am‘The other 14’ Twitter account is actually a useful and interesting thing for calming the nerves. We were top half after Luton just going to check now .
- Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stronger 11 last season.
- Replies: 150
- Views: 9993
Re: Stronger 11 last season.
Everton have had a VERY favourable first few fixtures (Arsenal apart). You would hope their XG would be decent and it’s a good job they’ve picked up a couple of wins. Much tougher challenges lie in wait for them.
- Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 805
- Views: 71769
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
New episode out now... There is SOME positivity in there (I promise!)... https://pod.link/1688380656 Not much!!! But justifiable… You could argue bringing Cork, JBG, Redmond etc into the team might bring some much needed experience but Cork was a little too slow for the C’Ship last season and showe...
- Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Chelsea - Player Ratings
- Replies: 93
- Views: 15838
Re: Burnley v Chelsea - Player Ratings
Trafford 4
Vitinho 4
Al Dakhil 6
Delcroix 5
Taylor 5
Cullen 6
Brownhill 4
Berge 6
Odobert 6
Tresor 3
Foster 7
O’Shea 4
Roberts 4
Ramsey 3
Koleosho 5
Larsen 5
Vitinho 4
Al Dakhil 6
Delcroix 5
Taylor 5
Cullen 6
Brownhill 4
Berge 6
Odobert 6
Tresor 3
Foster 7
O’Shea 4
Roberts 4
Ramsey 3
Koleosho 5
Larsen 5
- Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:07 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Luton v Burnley.Your verdict.
- Replies: 85
- Views: 7259
Re: Luton v Burnley.Your verdict.
First half domination and should have been more than a goal up. We need to be more clinical. Second half they came at us with everything. It was all power play - corners, free kicks and long throws. We stood up to it reasonably well. Any win away from home in the PL is excellent and I think Luton wi...
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Luton v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 47
- Views: 9534
Re: Luton v Burnley - Player Ratings
Whilst not everything came off for Amdouni and he missed a couple of very good chances, he also showed great determination and looked very dangerous in the first half - despite Luton’s best attempts to stop him by kicking him out of the game.
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bruun Larsen
- Replies: 49
- Views: 7073
Re: Bruun Larsen
As a footballer, Brunn Larsen is currently light years ahead of Koleosho. Didn’t he play in a front 4 at Dortmund with Haaland, Reuse and Sancho? Different pedigree. Koleosho is lightening quick and will improve but right now his final ball and decision making isn’t very good at all - in fact it’s p...
- Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 62
- Views: 12246
Re: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
:D That’s not the way to do it. After all, Jakubs Tash wrote off Foster after a similar amount of time - ‘hasn’t shown any signs of being a professional footballer’ is a comment that sticks in my mind. I’m not writing Tresor off…. Foster was way below the levels expected last year. If he had been p...
- Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:51 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 62
- Views: 12246
Re: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
I’d suggest that when he’s played the equivalent of a game and half across 3 substitute appearances, No. Fair enough. I’m obviously not stupid enough to be writing him off but interested to hear off people who rates him as such and their reasons why. 70 minutes against a League 2 team you are domin...
- Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 62
- Views: 12246
Re: Salford v Burnley - Player Ratings
Some 5’s and 6’s for Tresor when he played the best part of 70 minutes against a team near the bottom of League 2 - should we be concerned?
- Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 805
- Views: 71769
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Good listen. I’ve listened to all episodes since it came out and look forward to the new releases. Keep up the good work! Interesting that one of the guys name checked Tresor as one the better 3 or 4 players on Saturday. I’m sure there’s more to come from him and it was his first significant minutes...
- Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O’Shea / Vitinho
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3069
Re: O’Shea / Vitinho
So, does anybody actually know if O'shea has been dropped from the squad or is injured? Played every minute of every game before being left out I think....
- Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O’Shea / Vitinho
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3069
Re: O’Shea / Vitinho
Who would you replace on the bench? Delcroix was the defensive option. Maybe one of O'Shea or Vitinho could have been on the bench instead of one of the many wingers. As I've mentioned, it's more about balance and covering every eventuality. I appreciate it would be a freak but what if a couple of ...
- Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O’Shea / Vitinho
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3069
O’Shea / Vitinho
Any news on why O’Shea and Vitinho aren’t getting on the bench? Are they injured? Heard nothing at all about O’Shea. Has he just been dropped? If so, very strange not to have defensive cover on the bench when you can select 9 subs. Same with Vitinho. He’s been pictured back training for the last wee...
- Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Trouble after the game
- Replies: 52
- Views: 7570
Re: Trouble after the game
Absolute classic Newcastleclaret93 on this thread.
- Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Manchester United - Player Ratings
- Replies: 68
- Views: 8107
Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Player Ratings
Trafford 7
Roberts 7
Taylor 7
Beyer 7
Al Dakhil 8
Cullen 7
Brownhill 6
Ramsey 7
JBG 6
Koleosho 6
Amdouni 7
Tresor 6
Roberts 7
Taylor 7
Beyer 7
Al Dakhil 8
Cullen 7
Brownhill 6
Ramsey 7
JBG 6
Koleosho 6
Amdouni 7
Tresor 6
- Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team for Man U
- Replies: 71
- Views: 5835