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by dpinsussex
Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Michael Olise
Replies: 31
Views: 4297

Re: Michael Olise

I read that. Don’t recall you getting “mocked” though.....bit dramatic. Only know this lad from YouTube clips. Looks decent but doesn’t play that regularly for Reading in the Championship. 22 games out of 23 this season. 16 started. 1482 minutes suggests otherwise https://www.readingfc.co.uk/teams/...
by dpinsussex
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Michael Olise
Replies: 31
Views: 4297

Re: Michael Olise

Don’t shoot the messenger, but i have just been text that Burnley are chasing him this window. Don’t know much about the player but from the obligatory YouTube videos he looks decent. I got mocked when I suggested his name the other day. Apparently according to some people we have no chance bc rumo...
by dpinsussex
Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who will be the first signing under ALK
Replies: 123
Views: 15860

Re: Who will be the first signing under ALK

And so...it begins... We're now going to be out-muscling ACMilan, Spurs, Leeds, Arsenal and Chelsea in pursuit of young players...and about to bin off our maximum wage policy. Tarks is going to stick around on a lucrative 3 year deal. I think we need to recommence operation "lower expectations" bef...
by dpinsussex
Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Home Advantage?
Replies: 3
Views: 843

Re: Home Advantage?

Having too much time on my hands, I started looking at how much playing in empty stadiums removed any home advantage. And as far as the results this season are concerned it tends to show that there is now no advantage to playing at home. My rough counting up showed that of the 154 Premier League ma...
by dpinsussex
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: For us older miserable sods
Replies: 43
Views: 4764

Re: For us older miserable sods

40 years ago last night I will have been in bed
30 years ago probably somewhere like the Ritzy
20 years ago agreed to do the London marathon
10 years ago back in bed by 12 probably watched Jools
Last night back in bed by 11.

Staggering how your life changes as you get older
by dpinsussex
Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who will be the first signing under ALK
Replies: 123
Views: 15860

Re: Who will be the first signing under ALK

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:48 pm
AC Milan, Spurs, Leicester, Leeds, Arsenal and Chelsea all rumored to be after him
Unaware of that but release clause of just over 8m we should be sniffing
More likely to get regular 1st team football.

Plays RM /LM
Pacy
Young

Just the ticket if we can snare him
by dpinsussex
Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who will be the first signing under ALK
Replies: 123
Views: 15860

Re: Who will be the first signing under ALK

I mentioned this name the other day.

Michael Olise
by dpinsussex
Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team vs Fulham
Replies: 25
Views: 2876

Re: Team vs Fulham

The flip is that we are in good form and picking up results.
Momentum is huge in the Premier league especially if Fulham are short of a few as well.
by dpinsussex
Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Four football related people to have round this new years eve.
Replies: 37
Views: 1819

Re: Four football related people to have round this new years eve.

Not being greedy.

Just 1 person.
Jimmy Mc

Would be a great evening just talking all things Burnley.
Rest pale into insignificance
by dpinsussex
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Hi dp, neat example. A little correction: if you are owed money by someone they are your debtor - and if you owe someone money then they are your creditor. It can be confusing, because we are all used to being "in credit" or having a "debit against us." It's all because the language has developed f...
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Long term debt ? How.many of you have a mortgage?
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome
Replies: 2503
Views: 280603

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Olise at Reading looks a decent player. Apparently release clause of just over 8m.
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:09 pm
I think you are missing something ( not a pop). Private Equity was suggested as the funding method and it may still be if this is just a bridging loan. If it is just a bridging loan why is it needed ?
Timing of receipt of funds usually
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

The profit the board posted Profit is a paper figure accounting for things like depreciation which are non cash based. You will see the profits in the accounts but not necessarily in the bank account. Example You buy something for 1m and sell it for 2m you make a 1m profit However you agreed to buy...
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Realistic ambitions under ALK
Replies: 102
Views: 9991

Re: Realistic ambitions under Alk

World domination 🤣🤣🤣
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

lrac wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:41 pm
Excuse my ignorance please but what happens to any profit .that the club made previous
Do you mean cash or profit?
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

fully aware of that mate - and to be fair very few on this board have ever had a pop at me - possibly because I try to be level headed and reasoned and accept that others will see a different perspective - I don't know really, but I am grateful for it CP - How dare you be level headed and reasoned....
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

When turnover slips and the wage bill increases the only way to service the debt is to sell assets. Correct as any business that falls on hard times has to do. Our assets are our players and ground. The ground is a fixed asset, the players (current assets) are easily liquidated (sold) and produce c...
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Isn't borrowing money from the same source as the other clubs mentioned not a conflict of interest? No as long as the source of funds owner has no say in the operating of the club. A bridging loan is effectively a 6 to 12 month term at a set interest rate. If ALK fail to repay then that is where th...
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

There is no issue with debt in business. The key is servicing it. That said wealthy benefactors may decide to convert what is effectively a directors loan in to share capital at a later date thus reducing the short term debt in the business. This will / can be used as an offset against tax incurred ...
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:22 pm
Possibly just a bridging loan to buy the club before issuing equity to other investors and repaying the debt.
That is exactly how I see it. Short term debt at a premium but then that's is the market.
Repay with own funds or own borrowed funds at a better rate.
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

He spent a penny to purchase a controlling stake in the club. That penny was out of his own pocket. He has since run the club as a profitable business. I think that is generally considered to be good practice. I agree as someone who works in financial services. The emoji should have given you a clu...
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

joey13 wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:30 am
Hasn’t taken a penny :lol: :lol:
Nor spent a penny 🤣🤣🤣
by dpinsussex
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Last sending off for us on the Turf?
Replies: 16
Views: 2441

Re: Last sending off for us on the Turf?

Wasn't Brady sent off in a cup game against lower league opposition?
Memory probably failing me
by dpinsussex
Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus SheffU
Replies: 565
Views: 28459

Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus SheffU

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:50 pm
Commentary team are a bit average
I am listening to it in Portuguese. He isnt bad.
Love the pronunciation of Matty Lowton and Ashley Barnes 🤣🤣
by dpinsussex
Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:14 pm
I just happened to have the TV on when it suddenly came up on the yellow bar. Someone on here beat me to it though.
Getting slow in your advancing years Tony 🤣🤣🤣🤣
by dpinsussex
Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Fez wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:22 pm
:shock: :shock:
At 32 he certainly fits the age profile 🤣🤣🤣🤣
by dpinsussex
Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus SheffU
Replies: 565
Views: 28459

Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus SheffU

What channel is it on?
by dpinsussex
Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Sky reporting deal agreed in principle. Completed within 48 hrs
by dpinsussex
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mark Halsey says referees are biased towards certain clubs
Replies: 41
Views: 5341

Re: Mark Halsey says referees are biased towards certain clubs

Referees are not permitted to bet on football from step 6 of the non league game upwards
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones
Replies: 187
Views: 11845

Re: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones

I find that statement interesting and slightly baffling. Surely the "safe" decision at any level would to allow play to continue, (if you're unsure). Even with no VAR, you could then consult with the assistant ref if it directly leads to a goal. If you as the referee are the best placed match offic...
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Secret Merit table for refs - The Athletic
Replies: 17
Views: 1927

Re: Secret Merit table for refs - The Athletic

Grumps wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:13 pm
Refs are highly paid elite sport officials... No reason why they shouldn't be interviewed and explain their decisions, just like managers, who have to, and players.
Not at step 6 of the game they aren't but their performances are expected to be up with the very best in the Premier league.
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones
Replies: 187
Views: 11845

Re: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:12 pm
Nah, Mee has been the victim of a shite referee.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones
Replies: 187
Views: 11845

Re: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones

I accept your point re. VAR. Although a PL referee, no matter how inexperienced shouldn't be so ill-prepared. But how can the safe decision be to give a free kick for an infringement that didn't occur? Do referees regularly guess at decisions, and is this accepted? I can only think he has seen Mee ...
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones
Replies: 187
Views: 11845

Re: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones

It's quite worrying to me that referees think that the 'safe decision' is to give a defensive free kick. If there is no foul then surely the correct decision is to play on, safe in the knowledge that the VAR is at hand to review the collision should it result in a goal. Guessing at a decision canno...
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Secret Merit table for refs - The Athletic
Replies: 17
Views: 1927

Re: Secret Merit table for refs - The Athletic

The results of the merit table might be secret, but the existence of a merit table surely isn't even if never explicitly stated. How else do refs get appointed games - keys in the bowl? Merit tables occur all the way down to level 4 referees or step 5 and 6 of the non league game Promotions and rel...
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones
Replies: 187
Views: 11845

Re: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones

The difference is I think, is that comments about corruption are usually tongue in cheek and often said in jest at the absurdity of the decisions. The trouble I’m having with your viewpoint is that you clearly think that Ben Mee fouled the keeper, which is just absurd mate. Calling a MO a cheat, br...
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones
Replies: 187
Views: 11845

Re: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones

The tv excuse was that he blew for fk before the ball went into the net. However and as you rightly point out and ‘fouls’ in the penalty area are reviewable and so not only was the ref wrong but so was VAR for not reviewing the attack on Mee. Clear and obvious error. Penalty Burnley but not a goal ...
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones
Replies: 187
Views: 11845

Re: ARTICLE: A first Burnley league game for referee Jones

OK I will try and put some perspective on this from a referee perspective. To a point DA is correct on the conceded penalty. The ball is, "technically" irrelevant. Yes, he got to the ball first but the manner of winning that ball wasn't a fair challenge and hence the penalty kick was awarded. That i...
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 707
Views: 33650

Re: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS

I didn't get that either. It stops VAR looking at the goal, it doesn't stop it looking at the foul. We wuz robbed. From the laws of the game. 1. A video assistant referee (VAR) is a match official, with independent access to match footage, who may assist the referee only in the event of a ‘clear an...
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 707
Views: 33650

Re: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS

aggi wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:09 pm
You'd expect a booking though if the foul was reckless enough to ignore Pope winning the ball.
Def no caution. It was careless rather than reckless
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 707
Views: 33650

Re: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:40 pm
I hope this is the last time this referee works in the Premier League.
Who are you? Nuno? 😂😂😂
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 707
Views: 33650

Re: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:23 pm
Surely could review the decision as it was a foul so PK to us?
Correct. They could and should have imo
by dpinsussex
Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 707
Views: 33650

Re: Leeds versus MIGHTY CLARETS

That imo was a penalty . No different in fact worse than the Pope challenge
by dpinsussex
Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Baileys
Replies: 61
Views: 3970

Re: Baileys

Vomit in a glass - that's what baileys is. Stomach churning at its best
by dpinsussex
Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arry’s dog
Replies: 13
Views: 1581

Re: Arry’s dog

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:16 pm
My brother isn’t getting another dog mainly because he usually has about four holidays every year. He’s currently dog walking a cocker for a neighbour who recently lost her husband so that gets him out.
Rent a dog lol

We would love to but the new one will never be the same companion as Chester.
by dpinsussex
Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arry’s dog
Replies: 13
Views: 1581

Re: Arry’s dog

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:12 pm
That’s a good age for a springer. My brother had one. He got her from a rescue centre when she was 4 and she reached 14.
Yes it was. Still went beating until he was 13. That said was knackered when he had finished.
Will be a strange day tomorrow on the back of a very tough year
by dpinsussex
Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arry’s dog
Replies: 13
Views: 1581

Re: Arry’s dog

Tomorrow is the anniversary of our springer spaniel dying. Mrs dp came home to find the poor old boy having a fit on the living room floor. Sad to say Chester never made it. He may have been 15 but was still 6 at heart. Trained as a gun dog. Could never put him on a lead but was immaculate to the vo...
by dpinsussex
Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12654
Views: 1224712

Re: Criticism of the Directors ...

All things being equal I don't see what "ceteris paribus" adds to that statement. Any road up, it's not true. Obviously ALK are expecting something quid pro quo. We don't have to generate 200m, grosso modo we need to generate an acceptable return on 200m that's all. Other than that it's solito nego...
by dpinsussex
Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: That penalty.
Replies: 94
Views: 7590

Re: That penalty.

I'm not trying to belittle you or necessarily prove you wrong here. Plenty of other people think it was a penalty too. But serious question - if Benson's challenge was careless, would you as a ref have given a penalty if Silva had patted his shoulder and run on? Or was it Silva's dive that turned i...