Time for a new manager

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:21 pm

taio wrote:Just a gobshite

Really?
Looks an accurate prediction imo

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:22 pm

KRBFC wrote:Really?
Looks an accurate prediction imo

Take the bet then

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:22 pm

Back your mouth then, I will give you 11/10 hows that. My £110 against your £100

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:22 pm

KRBFC .... you must know that your PC and your mobile phone have different ip addresses.

Obviously, right now ABC uses one and KRBFC uses the other.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:24 pm

claretdom wrote:Back your mouth then, I will give you 11/10 hows that. My £110 against your £100

11/10

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:25 pm

taio wrote:Take the bet then

Why would I want to bet cash against my own team losing games? I want us too win just as much as anyone on this board. What I want and think will happen are 2 different things though.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:26 pm

No shock

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:26 pm

Heaton, Ward, Keane, Lowton, Arfield, Hendrick, Boyd and Gray were signed by who ? Who plays them ? He also signed Defour and plays him when the system suits it ie 4-5-1 or a version of at home.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:27 pm

KRBFC wrote: I want us too win just as much as anyone on this board.

I very much doubt that.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:27 pm

claretdom wrote:No shock

I'm guessing you back all your predictions including the ones where you predict us to lose? I wouldn't back us to lose with cash, never have and never will, infact I backed us too score at Stoke. How optimistic is that.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:29 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:I very much doubt that.

Doubt it all you want, I couldn't care less. The simple fact is, I'm a Burnley fan, I want Burnley to win. Having a different view to the majority doesn't make me less of a fan.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:30 pm

KRBFC wrote:I agree, Aidy Boothroyd gained promotion with Watford. The last time I saw him in football he got sacked by then League Two, Northampton. Some managers are out of their depth in the PL. Neil Warnock another example. The constantly blame of the referees is the pressure on him, he feels it, trying to cover the cracks in the performances. I see right through the excuses. I had a bet with someone on here (cant remember who) that we wouldn't get more than 5 points away from home all season and if we did I wouldn't post again. I made this bet after the first away game (I think). Dyche is just predictable, his tactics are predictable, his football is predictable.

quote from KRBFC Why would I want to bet cash against my own team losing games? I want us too win just as much as anyone on this board. What I want and think will happen are 2 different things though.

Isn't betting against Burnley winning less than 5 points away betting on your own team losing?????

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:30 pm

If I was mouthing off saying we won't do this or that and someone offered me the bet yes I would take it. If I wasn't prepared to back it I would probably keep my gob shut.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:31 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:quote from KRBFC Why would I want to bet cash against my own team losing games? I want us too win just as much as anyone on this board. What I want and think will happen are 2 different things though.

Isn't betting against Burnley winning less than 5 points away betting on your own team losing?????

Yes but not with cash, with my future on this board which I'm not that arsed if I post on here. A prediction with a twist, hopefully I'm not posting on this board soonish and we have more than 5 points.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:33 pm

Just to clarify what is the difference between a bet for cash and a bet for honour?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:33 pm

claretdom wrote:If I was mouthing off saying we won't do this or that and someone offered me the bet yes I would take it. If I wasn't prepared to back it I would probably keep my gob shut.

I wasn't mouthing off when I made the prediction, it was a simple prediction I made with another poster, we added a twist. I'm not going to throw money on Burnley losing and sit there every game wanting a Burnley win like I do, am I?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:33 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:Just to clarify what is the difference between a bet for cash and a bet for honour?

I could have stuck £100 over the bar and got the first few rounds on a matchday

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:34 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:Just to clarify what is the difference between a bet for cash and a bet for honour?

The difference between a prediction and a bet, you tell me.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:35 pm

You understand when you say to someone, I will make a bet with you (i.e you to tall paul) then it becomes more a bet than a prediction ?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:38 pm

Edit: post deleted as it's probably not appropriate.

Shame as it showed KBRFC up to be the **** he really is.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:41 pm

claretdom wrote:You understand when you say to someone, I will make a bet with you (i.e you to tall paul) then it becomes more a bet than a prediction ?

That wasn't the case though, now you're guessing. Do you bet cash on every prediction you make? Have you ever predicted Burnley to lose? What fan would bet cash on there own side to lose?

Imagine going to the Turf, with a bet on Burnley to lose.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:43 pm

You have proven everything about you in the last hour on here.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:43 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Edit: post deleted as it's probably not appropriate.

Shame as it showed KBRFC up to be the **** he really is.

I agree, a person with a different view on football to your own must really be a **** eh?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:44 pm

KRBFC wrote:That wasn't the case though, now you're guessing. Do you bet cash on every prediction you make? Have you ever predicted Burnley to lose? What fan would bet cash on there own side to lose? Imagine going to the Turf, with a bet on Burnley to lose.

Seems a good way to limit the disappointment to me. I might start.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:45 pm

claretdom wrote:You have proven everything about you in the last hour on here.

Same for yourself, you could only stump up £100, the next best thing £110, That extra tenner must have been a struggle to find. Was it down the sofa?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:47 pm

KRBFC wrote:I agree, a person with a different view on football to your own must really be a **** eh?

For the record, it had nothing to do on your views on football. It was about your behaviour as a human being.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:47 pm

Year is almost over and clearly ablueclaret wants to take the trophy for Pratt of the Year from KRBFC and Saxoman.

Personally, I think a blue needs to try harder to beat either of them.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:48 pm

Silly thread for Christmas?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:49 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:For the record, it had nothing to do on your views on football. It was about your behaviour as a human being.

How would you know about my behaviour as a human being when you have no idea who I am

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:50 pm

If we changed manager now, in a couple of months time the same people would be calling for another change in manager, an then another.

Our club needs stability. Some of our fans need bigger b*ll*cks.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:52 pm

What price would you like in a yes/no situation when you are so confident you are right ?

iluva64 · Post by **iluva64** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:52 pm

It can't be APRIL FOOLS DAY already..........Blackburn Rovers haven't been relegated yet.

I can't believe this thread can generate 130 posts

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:II had a bet with someone on here (cant remember who) that we wouldn't get more than 5 points away from home all season and if we did I wouldn't post again. I made this bet after the first away game (I think). Dyche is just predictable, his tactics are predictable, his football is predictable.

Confused. You say you made "this" bet and suddenly change it to a prediction.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:54 pm

KRBFC wrote:How would you know about my behaviour as a human being when you have no idea who I am

What you post on an Internet messageboard still counts as your behaviour. I can't believe I've actually had to point that out.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:55 pm

iluva64 wrote:It can't be APRIL FOOLS DAY already..........Blackburn Rovers haven't been relegated yet.

I can't believe this thread can generate 130 posts

I bring views, look at all the topics that involve me. The truth is, I have been hired by the local businesses with adverts on here to generate them more business because I bring views.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:56 pm

claretdom wrote:What price would you like in a yes/no situation when you are so confident you are right ?

Betting against Burnley simply isn't an option for me. Whether it's 10p or 10 grand.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:02 pm

ablueclaret wrote:No question mark, just the blunt statement, that means for me that the club needs a new direction a new person in charge, someone who is prepared to take risks and involve those players who could make a difference.

For me SD has become stale and after a brief excursion into tasting the difference has become once again enmeshed in the framework and the players who make that possible, whilst sidelining players of much higher quality who have the potential to pose problems to the opposition but sadly pose an even bigger one to SD.

SD has been a great manager for the club and has much more to offer but his demeanour and manner suggest his passion has gone and with it the drive needed to take this club forward.

I fancy the Board probably don't take the view I do but for me it's time for a change, something SD appears resolutely against doing.

Sometimes it takes an act of great bravery to bring success now I believe is the time for the club to look elsewhere to find a leader more in keeping with the tradition of this club as a ball playing, skill centred side.

The fine art of angling.
(1) Know your quarry.
(2)Do your reconnaissance.
(3)Use the appropriate bait.
(4)Cast your line.
(5)Wait for bites.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:03 pm

I wouldn't bet against Burnley either, but I also wouldn't offer bets on a messageboard either.

There is a debate to be had about SD, but only at the end of the season and only if we go down again.

And even then, who is better than him at getting teams promoted from the championship?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:07 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I wouldn't bet against Burnley either, but I also wouldn't offer bets on a messageboard either.

There is a debate to be had about SD, but only at the end of the season and only if we go down again.

And even then, who is better than him at getting teams promoted from the championship?

The question I raise is, do we wait until we're mathematically relegated or do we try and do something about it?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:10 pm

But we are not in that position, and our home form is one of the best in the division.

We've a good manager, and though the football can be agricultural at times, we'd be daft to change, especially for untried and especially with our wage budget.

Just enjoy it man!

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:The question I raise is, do we wait until we're mathematically relegated or do we try and do something about it?

If we go down,we go down.
Life go's on ,and so will BFC.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:42 pm

Sean Dyche has been a beacon for this club.
With comparatively little money he has had two promotions and raised the standard of football and the ckub profile, around the world.
I'll take another relegation and keep him rather than lose him.
I won't have to though because we are staying up.
He doesn't play my preferred style but I'm not crying in my beer.
He watchs the players train, he knows their state of health and he picks the best team available for the challenge in front of them,

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:47 pm

-sick to death of reading crap on here from non-Burnley fans, from that tool of an OP who craves attention all the time, writes at length usually critically but never sees a live match, and from other mindless idiots who don't know what the **** they are.

Give me strength.

Joe14 · Post by **Joe14** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:54 pm

Drugs have been the downfall of many a man. Alcohol the downfall of many a man. (and woman!!)

Never mix drugs/alcohol/Internet forums!!! Then we get threads like this

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:03 pm

KRBFC wrote:Are you still confident of winning the bet? the loser doesn't post on here again.
Looking at the table and home form right now, you would be happy. The away form will slowly see us slip further and further down the table in the long run though. The table at Christmas doesn't matter.

Found the post when you promised not to post again if we got more than 5 points away from home. No mention of me doing the same if we don't, so it looks like a freeroll.

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You didn't answer the question earlier either: How will the away form see us slip further down the table if we maintain the home form?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:24 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:If we changed manager now, in a couple of months time the same people would be calling for another change in manager, an then another.

Our club needs stability. Some of our fans need bigger b*ll*cks.

This.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:43 pm

Every manager has his time, SC should have gone a year before he did, BL was never right but should have gone at the end of the season. EH again should have gone at the end of the season and for me SD should go now.

Of course those wishing for stability, loyalty, continuity have a very good case, SD it could be said deserves to stay here and see this season through, and certainly he's a good a bet as anyone for getting us out of the Championship for a third time, but for me the project is looking tired, the personnel not quite up to it, sadly the integration of knew talent and energy hasn't happened, we are very much where we were last time.

We now in my opinion need a new manager to give this side the boost of confidence it needs to believe it can compete with the best, not to be constantly told it is struggling against the odds.

SD's methods have been champion but now we need something premier if we are to retain our place at the top table.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:49 pm

You left OC off your list abc, any reason why?

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:51 pm

OC went before his time Sidney as you well know.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:52 pm

There really are some strange folk out there.