Time for a new manager

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:37 pm

No question mark, just the blunt statement, that means for me that the club needs a new direction a new person in charge, someone who is prepared to take risks and involve those players who could make a difference.

For me SD has become stale and after a brief excursion into tasting the difference has become once again enmeshed in the framework and the players who make that possible, whilst sidelining players of much higher quality who have the potential to pose problems to the opposition but sadly pose an even bigger one to SD.

SD has been a great manager for the club and has much more to offer but his demeanour and manner suggest his passion has gone and with it the drive needed to take this club forward.

I fancy the Board probably don't take the view I do but for me it's time for a change, something SD appears resolutely against doing.

Sometimes it takes an act of great bravery to bring success now I believe is the time for the club to look elsewhere to find a leader more in keeping with the tradition of this club as a ball playing, skill centred side.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:37 pm

Lomas or McInness which one ?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:38 pm

F*** OFF you D1Ck.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:38 pm

or Derek Adams my olde fruit.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:39 pm

Shall we sign Gary Hooper and Billy Sharp in January as well

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:40 pm

About 9 days ago you were praising Dyche for being brave. Surely you're not so fickle?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:42 pm

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Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:42 pm

Just when you had started to post some reasonable discussion points you've gone and spoilt it. Have you been on the Christmas Sherry early ?

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:42 pm

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Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:43 pm

That began with Bo and ended ks

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:44 pm

ablueclaret wrote:... whilst sidelining players of much higher quality who have the potential to pose problems to the opposition but sadly pose an even bigger one to SD.

David Edgar has GONE. Get over it.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:44 pm

I agree, I want a manager to transform the hoofball to football. A risk taker, prepared to go at teams to try and win games. A foreign manager with the knowledge of the foreign market that we lack badly. Someone to get the best out of our better players like Defour, Hendrick etc. The attack is simply toothless, lack ideas, no fluidity and no real plan on how to win a game especially away from home. It's like we set up to lose 1-0 and not 5-0, like we're a league two side in the big lights. Jorge Jesus would give these players a kick up the arse and Defour would be where he needs to be, the main man, controlling the game not sat on the bench.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:44 pm

Sadly I see the retreat, two games when he should have been experimenting saw the return to the same old. The failure to play our best and most exciting players, the return of 4-4-2 and the excuses that tend to ride with a deflated manager.

Managers have their day it's important to recognise when their mission is over.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:45 pm

Blackrod wrote:Just when you had started to post some reasonable discussion points you've gone and spoilt it. Have you been on the Christmas Sherry early ?

He's been down his allotment all morning.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:45 pm

I think Rene Smith is doing his coaching badges ....

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:45 pm

Bruce Rioch or George Graham as replacement?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:45 pm

ablue just a word of caution regarding your view. The biggest whopper on here agrees with you.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:46 pm

Brian Laws is available...

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:47 pm

KRBFC wrote:Jorge Jesus would give these players a kick up the arse and Defour would be where he needs to be, the main man, controlling the game not sat on the bench.

What exactly is it that impresses you about Jorge Jesus and makes you think that he's the ideal man for the job? Other than his fabulous name.

Does he even speak English for starters?

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:49 pm

He needs new players, we don't need a new manager

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:51 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Sadly I see the retreat, two games when he should have been experimenting saw the return to the same old. The failure to play our best and most exciting players, the return of 4-4-2.

While a nonsense thread title, this piece has merit. 352 could have easily have been tested and we would have been better off for the experiment as the outcome might have been different to expectation. With the two home games "must-wins" he's lost the opportunity, and in January we head into a series of away games

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:51 pm

Cant agree with that at all ABC, I think the direction this club is going is perfectly ok.

However, I do think new blood is needed alongside of him (not instead of others) but to concentrate more on our offence play, a dedicated Striking coach. I believe he/they are struggling a tad with that, so it might be an idea going forward. There is not a lot wrong with what we have, apart from not quite having any quality on the bench...but we are doing ok.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:53 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Sadly I see the retreat, two games when he should have been experimenting saw the return to the same old. The failure to play our best and most exciting players, the return of 4-4-2 and the excuses that tend to ride with a deflated manager.

Managers have their day it's important to recognise when their mission is over.

I agree, Aidy Boothroyd gained promotion with Watford. The last time I saw him in football he got sacked by then League Two, Northampton. Some managers are out of their depth in the PL. Neil Warnock another example. The constantly blame of the referees is the pressure on him, he feels it, trying to cover the cracks in the performances. I see right through the excuses. I had a bet with someone on here (cant remember who) that we wouldn't get more than 5 points away from home all season and if we did I wouldn't post again. I made this bet after the first away game (I think). Dyche is just predictable, his tactics are predictable, his football is predictable.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:54 pm

I thought you liked predictable?

Jambo · Post by **Jambo** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:55 pm

David Edgar as player-manager - and our new midfield lynchpin.

I doubt the club would be considering moving Dyche on if we were adrift in last place so they definitely won't be since we're above the bottom three.

And Dyche is continuing to improve as a manager - we've seen that this season.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:58 pm

Rileybobs wrote:What exactly is it that impresses you about Jorge Jesus and makes you think that he's the ideal man for the job? Other than his fabulous name.

Does he even speak English for starters?

Took Benfica to back to back Europa League finals. Won league after league title. Impressive attractive brand. Knowledge on the foreign market.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:59 pm

KRBFC wrote:Took Benfica to back to back Europa League finals. Won league after league title. Impressive attractive brand. Knowledge on the foreign market.

Speaky Inglese?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:00 pm

Look how well Hull are doing after changing their manager in the summer.

We should be more like Hull.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:03 pm

KRBFC wrote:I agree, Aidy Boothroyd gained promotion with Watford. The last time I saw him in football he got sacked by then League Two, Northampton. Some managers are out of their depth in the PL. Neil Warnock another example. The constantly blame of the referees is the pressure on him, he feels it, trying to cover the cracks in the performances. I see right through the excuses. I had a bet with someone on here (cant remember who) that we wouldn't get more than 5 points away from home all season and if we did I wouldn't post again. I made this bet after the first away game (I think). Dyche is just predictable, his tactics are predictable, his football is predictable.

Aidy Boothroyd is the England u20 manager ! Scary scary scary

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:04 pm

What do the three teams occupying the relegation places have in common?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:05 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Look how well Hull are doing after changing their manager in the summer.

We should be more like Hull.

The problems at Hull are obvious to anyone who takes any kind of interest in football. Interestingly they played West Ham away this weekend, they also lost 1-0 to a penalty but the level of performance from the highlights I saw were far superior to our performance against West Ham. They hit the post 3 times and look capable of scoring a goal away from home unlike us.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:06 pm

Rileybobs wrote:What do the three teams occupying the relegation places have in common?

They all have English speaking managers? they all have fans at war with the club owners?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:07 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Aidy Boothroyd is the England u20 manager ! Scary scary scary

Scary indeed, Dyche is another dinosaur like Boothroyd.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:07 pm

KRBFC wrote:The problems at Hull are obvious to anyone who takes any kind of interest in football. Interestingly they played West Ham away this weekend, they also lost 1-0 to a penalty but the level of performance from the highlights I saw were far superior to our performance against West Ham. They hit the post 3 times and look capable of scoring a goal away from home unlike us.

We scored a goal away from home yesterday and missed the best chance of the game as well.

As I keep saying, why does it matter whether we get points at home or away, as long as we get enough, which we are on course to do?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:09 pm

Tall Paul wrote:We scored a goal away from home yesterday and missed the best chance of the game as well.

1 goal away from home all season from open play, the other a penalty given too us because the referee felt sorry for us. Says it all really

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:09 pm

Dyche needs new players - this

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:11 pm

Oh and I want to see Defour playing not sat on the bench. A manager who can't get the best out of Defour is simply not up to scratch.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:1 goal away from home all season from open play, the other a penalty given too us because the referee felt sorry for us. Says it all really

So do you want us to be more like Hull or not?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:11 pm

When he posts his shite at 4.30am he has at least the excuse of being drunk or high, just gone 2 in the afternoon you have to wonder how far a giro can stretch.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:11 pm

If only Dyche had stopped to sign that autograph for krbfc that time.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:19 pm

I see the thread title and wonder which idiot has posted it

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:20 pm

KRBFC wrote:The problems at Hull are obvious to anyone who takes any kind of interest in football. Interestingly they played West Ham away this weekend, they also lost 1-0 to a penalty but the level of performance from the highlights I saw were far superior to our performance against West Ham. They hit the post 3 times and look capable of scoring a goal away from home unlike us.

Also interestingly, they played Spurs at WHL on Wednesday and got tonked 3-0.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:22 pm

Just like being at a Labour Party meeting where nobody will see or admit the failings of Corbyn.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:23 pm

ABC as manager with KBRFC as his assistant.

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:24 pm

I don't really post that much but it is testament to yourself that you have spurred me enough to write

You daft twit!

If it was isolated girlyness I could excuse it but it is constant negative "I am just saying it as it is!" in a whiny voice. Which translates into "I am a needy tart."

You and that other bloke KBRFC are just like a pair of pouting miserable slags at a bar that everybody listens just once then just accepts as irritating white noise.

Please just stop saying it as it really is because your knickers are full of gaping holes.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:27 pm

I have a feeling that abc and krbfc are the same just that abc uses krbfc as the more extreme.

On the subject of our manager I believe he says it as it is ... unlike some who say sabbatical and end up posting more (drivel) in the following period than he did before he said it.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:28 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:ABC as manager with KBRFC as his assistant.

They would need help with even putting the cones out

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I see the thread title and wonder which idiot has posted it

I thought personal abuse wasn't acceptable on this board.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:32 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:ABC as manager with KBRFC as his assistant.

Be difficult on match days, mobile signal isn't the best at Turf Moor.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:36 pm

"SD has been a great manager for the club and has much more to offer but his demeanour and manner suggest his passion has gone and with it the drive needed to take this club forward."

If you were correct then don't you think that SD would walk of his own accord.(amicably of course) personally I don't think that's the case for a moment.