Tom Cleverly

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:23 pm

Burnley are monitoring Tom Cleverly situation. The midfielder has managed only 2 minutes this season under Koeman. Dyche wants to add to his CM armoury this window.

Dean Jones

Bleacher report

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:25 pm

Cleverley is not the answer to any question...

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:25 pm

Not a fast tricky winger..

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:29 pm

Never rated him, but that was in comparison to players around him at Utd/Everton. I'm not sure how he'd compare to Marney/Hendrick/Defour in terms of ability here though.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:30 pm

I thought Newcastle Utd were in for him.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:32 pm

Saxoman wrote:Not a fast tricky winger..

Ha ha we wouldn't know what to do with one,if we got one.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:33 pm

Excellent player. Would be fantastic for us.

Was at Watford with Dyche i think.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:35 pm

Feels like a good fit for me.
Not long since in the England set-up, lost his way a bit and,crucially, Dyche worked with him at Watford. A player still young enough to get a lot better. Could be more of a long term prospect, especially if Defour leaves at the end of the season which sadly looks on the cards.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:38 pm

Dyche worked with sordell at Watford..

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:40 pm

Saxoman wrote:Dyche worked with sordell at Watford..

Yeah and most of the delusional lot on here were raving about the capture of Marvin and I was negative for saying he was sh**e

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:42 pm

Saxoman wrote:Dyche worked with sordell at Watford..

And conned Coyle into paying silly money for him.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:43 pm

bartons baggage wrote:And conned Coyle into paying silly money for him.

When did coyle buy him?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:46 pm

If we could manage to get him I'd be delighted, at 27 he's probably at his peak so will want to be playing regular football.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:48 pm

Coyle signed him (Sordell) for Bolton.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:49 pm

CleggHall wrote:Coyle signed him for Bolton.

Ah.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:50 pm

Saxoman wrote:Not a fast tricky winger..

We won't be looking for one. He will cost far too much and besides, bigger teams than us will be ahead of us in the queue for such a player.

What we WILL be looking for is a midfielder who can run box to box for 95 minutes per game, twice a week. Defensive minded with an eye for a good forward defence splitting pass. The second part of that final sentence is negotiable. We might not like it, but we have to be prepared to defend for a good long time yet. This is the premier league, and it's hard to compete without spending silly money.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:50 pm

Is he a northern lad? Might see us as a good move.
Local to his current home and still in the premier league. Could be a mid table side in 12 months.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:53 pm

remember Cleverly being on loan at Watford.

was very impressive!

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:57 pm

bobinho wrote:We won't be looking for one. He will cost far too much and besides, bigger teams than us will be ahead of us in the queue for such a player.

What we WILL be looking for is a midfielder who can run box to box for 95 minutes per game, twice a week. Defensive minded with an eye for a good forward defence splitting pass. The second part of that final sentence is negotiable. We might not like it, but we have to be prepared to defend for a good long time yet. This is the premier league, and it's hard to compete without spending silly money.

I don't think dyche has any interest in a 'fast tricky winger' either.. I was being a little sarcastic..

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:05 pm

MACCA wrote:Is he a northern lad?

He played for Bradford's youth team and think he was brought up in those parts.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:05 pm

He was brought up in Bradford.

No thanks for me - he's rhubarb.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:12 pm

He has a wagtastic Mrs.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:15 pm

MDWat wrote:No thanks for me - he's rhubarb.

That's not Bradford, it's around Wakey and Leeds.

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:19 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Ha ha we wouldn't know what to do with one,if we got one.

A bit unfair as we had Lloyd Dyer last season, who has now linked up with Marvin at the Brewers.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:20 pm

Not sure where the 2 minutes comes from in OP. He's had four starts and six sub appearances this season in Premier League.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:22 pm

Probably shows the quality of reporting Tony.
That was from the article

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:23 pm

Think the article says 2 minutes of football in the last month?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:30 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:A bit unfair as we had Lloyd Dyer last season, who has now linked up with Marvin at the Brewers.

Check out the smiley at the end of the post.

harpers_perm · Post by **harpers_perm** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:32 pm

Wouldn't add to what we already already have IMO, we need somebody with pace and a bit of 'trickery', ideally with a gambling addiction.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:33 pm

ksrclaret wrote:Think the article says 2 minutes of football in the last month?

A bit like Patrick Bamford then

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:50 pm

Not someone I would blow a large portion of the wages budget on.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:56 pm

The only reason to sign Tom Cleverley is because of his missus.

Bang average player, file under Fabian Delph, Jack Rodwell, Ryan Mason, Jonjo Shelvey. Probably will end up at Newcastle.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/prox ... 4dbbbbd722

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:12 pm

If there is a god, please don't let this happen, please.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:16 pm

I think he'd be fine to be honest

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:26 pm

Dyche just wants as many famous Wags around as possible.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:28 pm

MrTopTier wrote:The only reason to sign Tom Cleverley is because of his missus.

Bang average player, file under Fabian Delph, Jack Rodwell, Ryan Mason, Jonjo Shelvey. Probably will end up at Newcastle.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/prox ... 4dbbbbd722

Jonjo Shelvey's a cracking player, better midfielder than anything we currently have. Shame he's a dick

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:31 pm

Like other members have already stated, I'd be happy with TC - I think he'd be a very good fit for our system.

Not sure how affordable his wages would be though.

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:32 pm

Probably a good signing for us, he has a lot of energy bit similar to Hendrick in my view. Clearly the type of midfielder dyche wants and for that type of player he wouldn't be a bad signing. Not sure on wages tho

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:33 pm

100% no for me

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:43 pm

'We won't be looking for one'
Well we were looking for a fast tricky winger in the last window.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:44 pm

While we're all discussing this, who on earth is Dean Jones? and what is Bleacher report? I highly doubt we'd be able to afford him but I've no idea who Dean Jones is, is he accurate or another stab in the dark type?

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:46 pm

This is someone who has played 13 times for England.

I mean, i know its not a vintage generation, and i know Cleverley has lost his way a bit since the last of those caps, but are we really at the point of saying full England internationals who are still in their prime arent up to our standard? Seriously?

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:49 pm

The Bleacher report disseminated our Nationalist Railways.

Mrs Malaprop was scything about the damage it caused our mural communities.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:52 pm

Not sure I understand the negativity with this one.

Cleverly would absolutely improve our first 11, he is an upgrade on Dean Marney. Lost his way at Everton a bit, perhaps, but the ability is there.

Can only assume it would be a loan as he will be on mega bucks at Everton (minimum 50k a week).

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:53 pm

claretspice wrote:This is someone who has played 13 times for England.

I mean, i know its not a vintage generation, and i know Cleverley has lost his way a bit since the last of those caps, but are we really at the point of saying full England internationals who are still in their prime arent up to our standard? Seriously?

Lets be honest, he hasn't looked a good player throughout his career has he? I agree with you though, a player with his pedigree must have something maybe he's just underrated by fans (abit like Jordan Henderson)

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:53 pm

claretspice wrote:This is someone who has played 13 times for England.

I mean, i know its not a vintage generation, and i know Cleverley has lost his way a bit since the last of those caps, but are we really at the point of saying full England internationals where still in their prime arent up to our standard? Seriously?

To be fair his career has been going backwards since playing for England - and many would say he should never have been in the England side let alone win 13 caps.

Cleverley is on big money and he cannot be pulling up many trees at Everton with being so far down the packing order in a midfield where Koeman has introduced a couple of midfielder this season from their youngsters ahead of Cleverley.

He may well be better than Marney, Arfield and Boyd but not sure he would make a huge difference or whether it would be worth shelling out £50k a week for him. But if Dyche thinks he's good enough to improve our chances of staying up then thats fine by me.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:55 pm

TC? Err.. no.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:00 pm

He's not big and he's not clever.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:34 am

He's ****.

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:44 am

Rowls wrote:The Bleacher report disseminated our Nationalist Railways.

Mrs Malaprop was scything about the damage it caused our mural communities.

Beeching