Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:55 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:Is there something in this? There does seem to be a lot of chatter about it in Italy. No smoke without fire?

The Italian press are never usually far off the mark.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Nagatomo unused sub for Inter today
he's always an unused sub these days, nothing strange by him being left out.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:11 pm

never said there was, just stating the fact ! ;)

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Reecey1987 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:00 pm

Bid in according to reports
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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:09 pm

30! 5.5 m!

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:56 pm

4 starts and 3 sub appearances this season. Liverpool might want Flanagan back. Not a sexy signing but good depth.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:29 pm

I know his mate Tommytuk Amotor who was jailed car theft & he said it's happening.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by 1968claret » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:36 pm

Didn't his uncle own the skyscraper featured in Die Hard?

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by maidenover » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:21 am

5th on Sky Sports Transfer Center's "Top Whispers"

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by P43B4C_DJ » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:49 am

this would be a fantastic signing for us, would also attract commercial interest abroad...big star at home due to his success and clearly very talented player who can only improve us. Exciting times to be a claret with Defour a similar mould, get him in if possible!

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by ecc » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:19 am

"Nobody said anything about him being a bipedal, FF - he's ambidextrous, which means he can take a throw-in with both hands"

But can he do it with both feet on the ground at the same time?

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by ecc » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:21 am

Santon can stay in Milan. He's failed there twice and any notions of how to defend were well and truly eradicated whilst on Tyneside.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by boyyanno » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:48 pm

Rumours kicking around on News Now that we have agreed to meet a fee between 6-7m euros for him, apparently the negations will begin now.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Claretmatt4 » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:51 pm

boyyanno wrote:Rumours kicking around on News Now that we have agreed to meet a fee between 6-7m euros for him, apparently the negations will begin now.
Assume you mean Yuto?

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:56 pm

boyyanno wrote:Rumours kicking around on News Now that we have agreed to meet a fee between 6-7m euros for him, apparently the negations will begin now.

Going off some of the EU drama queens on here, that'll be about 40 million pounds won't it?
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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Stevie Morgan » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:39 pm

You're a card aren't you BOT!

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by LawsCanalJump » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:48 pm

Be a quality addition, united after him last year?

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by PhiladelphiaChris » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:15 am

He was excellent against Southampton in the UEFA cup even if he did score an own goal.Really excited by this if it is true.

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Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:02 am

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:03 am

Burnley been told 6-7 m euros to get there man

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:15 am

Inter fans on Twitter cannot wait to see the back of him. One comment I saw claimed he was as fast as a sprinter but doesnt understand what his legs are supposed to do.

On the face of it, he looks an amazing signing just because of his career history etc, but still worth nothing how fans of his current club feel.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by jlup1980 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:16 am

Burnley bidding for players from Inter Milan. That's it now, I've seen it all!

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Claretmatt4 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:17 am

jedi_master wrote:Inter fans on Twitter cannot wait to see the back of him. One comment I saw claimed he was as fast as a sprinter but doesnt understand what his legs are supposed to do.

On the face of it, he looks an amazing signing just because of his career history etc, but still worth nothing how fans of his current club feel.
To be fair to him he does play for Inter, one of the biggest teams in Europe. Fair to say they will have higher expectations for him

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:18 am

Claretmatt4 wrote:To be fair to him he does play for Inter, one of the biggest teams in Europe. Fair to say they will have higher expectations for him
Very fair comment.
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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Claretmatt4 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:21 am

Agree that fans are often a blood barometer mind

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Reecey1987 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:24 am

Be good if we can get this over the line . Not only will we be getting a player that can play Lb and Rb but also a player that can play down any wing . Im not saying dyche will do this but it is a good option to have . With us being linked with another winger chances are we could end up with 2

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by The Enclosure » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:33 am

A young tomato. :D

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:34 am

jedi_master wrote:Inter fans on Twitter cannot wait to see the back of him. One comment I saw claimed he was as fast as a sprinter but doesnt understand what his legs are supposed to do.
You can see from the YouTube video that he can run, sprint past people but has no final product.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by CFS » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:37 am

Italian teams are built on defence first so make no mistake this guy can and will defend. People forgetting he's a RB/LB what sort of end product are we expecting? He's not a striker for goodness sake. Also be good to put our name out there in the Asian countries this guy is a household name.

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Post by Sidney1st » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:59 am

CFS wrote:Italian teams are built on defence first so make no mistake this guy can and will defend. People forgetting he's a RB/LB what sort of end product are we expecting? He's not a striker for goodness sake. Also be good to put our name out there in the Asian countries this guy is a household name.
They're expecting Trippier-esque style crosses from any full back we have.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:02 am

CFS wrote:...he's a RB/LB what sort of end product are we expecting? He's not a striker for goodness sake.
A few crosses, or 'assists' as the kids are obsessed these days.

What I think he will bring though is a better transition from defence to attack.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Siddo » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:05 am

I never cease to be amazed by the depth of knowledge that people on here have about any whisper of a signing. We had the Tom Cleverly experts and now we are already writing this guy off.

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Post by CFS » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:06 am

claptrappers_union wrote:A few crosses, or 'assists' as the kids are obsessed these days.

What I think he will bring though is a better transition from defence to attack.
Agree but think our wingers need to take some responsibility and step up as we need more from them rather than our fullbacks.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by jlup1980 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:07 am

This guy surely represents a step up in quality; certainly on paper he does.

The guy has 90 odd caps for Japan for starters and they're a good team. He's also played 185 times for Inter Milan since 2010-2011. That might only represent around 25 games a season (clearly he's a squad player) but who else in our squad has that amount of top level experience? Barton and Defour maybe?

If you strip out the Cup appearances and add in his half a season on loan at Cesena in Serie A he's actually made 163 appearances in the Italian top flight. You don't do that, especially at a club like Inter Milan, if you're a poor player.

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:29 am

jlup1980 wrote:This guy surely represents a step up in quality; certainly on paper he does.

The guy has 90 odd caps for Japan for starters and they're a good team. He's also played 185 times for Inter Milan since 2010-2011. That might only represent around 25 games a season (clearly he's a squad player) but who else in our squad has that amount of top level experience? Barton and Defour maybe?

If you strip out the Cup appearances and add in his half a season on loan at Cesena in Serie A he's actually made 163 appearances in the Italian top flight. You don't do that, especially at a club like Inter Milan, if you're a poor player.
Barely played at all this season, obviously he isn't the same player he was 3 years ago or he'd be playing and we wouldn't have a sniff of getting him. I'd rather we targeted younger foreign players, to give them time to develop/settle but with quality to push the first team immediately. There's no point wasting money on over the hill foreign players because they used to be good.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Claretmatt4 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:34 am

KRBFC wrote:Barely played at all this season, obviously he isn't the same player he was 3 years ago or he'd be playing and we wouldn't have a sniff of getting him. I'd rather we targeted younger foreign players, to give them time to develop/settle but with quality to push the first team immediately. There's no point wasting money on over the hill foreign players because they used to be good.
Could be a number of reasons why he has featured less this season. Saying he's over the hill without watching him play (I assume you havent) is a bit much.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by agreenwood » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:34 am

Struggling to think of a diminutive full back who has been asked to adapt to an alternative top European league at 30+ and done well.

Hopefully he retains his pace, balance and agility for a while.

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Post by Firthy » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:36 am

Can't get excited about this one. Don't see him as the pacey creative type of player we need. In fact I'm still waiting for a decent rumour to start, the likes of Gradel, Cleverly etc. aren't cutting it.

Maybe I'm just expecting too much.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Steddyman » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:39 am

He looks a very good player, both in attack and defence. Can't believe we have Burnley fans slating the potential signing of an Inter Milan player.

Can't see it happening though. Defour aside (which almost didn't happen) we just don't sign players of this quality.

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Post by LawsCanalJump » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:41 am

Burnley potentially signing an inter Milan player with 90 odd caps for his country, and people still can be negative
He will certainly be on par if not better then what we have already
How about we don't sign anyone and be negative?

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Claretmatt4 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:42 am

agreenwood wrote:Struggling to think of a diminutive full back who has been asked to adapt to an alternative top European league at 30+ and done well.

Hopefully he retains his pace, balance and agility for a while.
What's the sample size? Who are you comparing him to?

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by SkiptonClaret » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:47 am

Do we need a 30 plus year old full back ?

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:53 am

LawsCanalJump wrote:Burnley potentially signing an inter Milan player with 90 odd caps for his country, and people still can be negative
He will certainly be on par if not better then what we have already
How about we don't sign anyone and be negative?
Which is my point, us signing an Inter Milan player and 90 capped international says it all for me, shows he's past it.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by KRBFC » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:55 am

Steddyman wrote:He looks a very good player, both in attack and defence. Can't believe we have Burnley fans slating the potential signing of an Inter Milan player.

Can't see it happening though. Defour aside (which almost didn't happen) we just don't sign players of this quality.
Inter Milan player? that's pushing it, he doesn't play for them these days. He used to be good, one of the better fullbacks in the world imo, the fact I rated him highly years ago, he now doesn't feature for Inter and the fact we could possibly be signing him sets off the alarm bells for me.

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Post by agreenwood » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:56 am

Bolton made a virtue of signing ageing players from overseas. However, they were players to suit their style and even the ballers had plenty about them physically.

My point about his size is that he's not going to be able to rely on brute strength to see him through the remainder of his career. He'll need to retain the attributes that have seen him have a good career at a high level. I'm not saying he won't, just that it's a big ask, particularly whilst also trying to adapt to a new country/league.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by SkiptonClaret » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:59 am

Firthy wrote:Can't get excited about this one. Don't see him as the pacey creative type of player we need. In fact I'm still waiting for a decent rumour to start, the likes of Gradel, Cleverly etc. aren't cutting it.

Maybe I'm just expecting too much.
You're expecting too much if our idea of living dangerously is Max Gradel.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Steddyman » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:03 am

@tancredipalmeri
Sunderland have contacted Inter for Nagatomo #AskTanc https://twitter.com/jodez100/status/816425175570907136" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BeIn sports journalist with 120k followers. Oh well, it was exciting while it lasted. Could be worse though, could have been Blackburn outbidding us on wages.

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:03 am

KRBFC wrote:Barely played at all this season, obviously he isn't the same player he was 3 years ago or he'd be playing and we wouldn't have a sniff of getting him. I'd rather we targeted younger foreign players, to give them time to develop/settle but with quality to push the first team immediately. There's no point wasting money on over the hill foreign players because they used to be good.
Leicester are probably glad they didn't think the same about Cambiasso

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by Steddyman » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:06 am

Ignore my last post. For some stupid reason twitter surfaced a post from 8 days ago!

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Re: Yuto Nagatomo/David Santon

Post by claretdom » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:10 am

No matter who the player is in question, the usuals can't help themselves.

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