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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:33 pm

It says a lot that the people who were denying that he's a racist have given up. They'll still vote for him though, because they are racists too.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by martin_p » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:37 pm

Politicians all over the world condemning these tweets. Two notable absences though, the men vying to be our next PM.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:45 pm

At least his racism isn't as bad as the several Obama scandals that plagued his administration

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:23 pm

The guy's a ******* moron. :lol:

Lindsey Graham retracted his lips from Trump's feet for a minute and criticised him for his racist attack on the congresswomen and said that Trump should "aim higher", meaning try to aim for the high ground, or just try to be better. But Trump didn't understand this and thought Lindsey Graham was saying that Trump should aim his racism at Senators, not Congressmen and women. :lol:

https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1 ... 86656?s=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:13 pm

The president of the United States has just said that US congresspeople, who are citizens, should leave if they don't like it there. He's also just claimed that he's heard them speaking about "how wonderful al-queda is" and that they hate the United States.

This ******* guy. He's clearly trying to rile up his supporters into murdering these people, and if it happens he'll claim that he had nothing to do with it.
This is stochastic terrorism.

https://twitter.com/SpillerOfTea/status ... 57539?s=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:15 pm

Three cheers for Donald Trump.

Best statement yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48997008" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by morpheus2 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:24 pm

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Took me ages to get my tortoise (near enough) to stand still long enough to put a diaper on him...thought he did well typing that out though!
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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:38 pm

Pstotto wrote:Three cheers for Donald Trump.

Best statement yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48997008" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Who would have thought someone like you would approve of things like that.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:42 pm

morpheus2 wrote:Image

Took me ages to get my tortoise (near enough) to stand still long enough to put a diaper on him...thought he did well typing that out though!
It kinda loses whatever sting it had when i repeatedly get proven correct about him.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:53 pm

Even the Republicans must have their heads in their hands over this,the guys totally flipped.

And then he claims that democratically elected congresswoman of colour hate their country,i can only see one person spreading hate here.

You do wonder if he's trying to inflame racial tensions to justify a law and order crackdown on BAME communities,nothing would surprise you with this president now.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by tiger76 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:55 pm

martin_p wrote:Politicians all over the world condemning these tweets. Two notable absences though, the men vying to be our next PM.
They sort of condemned them,but in a mealymouthed way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48997587

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:00 pm

tiger76 wrote:Even the Republicans must have their heads in their hands over this,the guys totally flipped.

...
Lol. Nope. Not publicly at least, because they know it would cost them votes. Which only proves who their voting base is.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:08 pm

Can someone please explain to me why it's OK for Trump to come out with these sort of racist comments on a regular basis, yet if someone likens him to a Nazi then that's a big no no?

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:20 pm

Spijed wrote:Can someone please explain to me why it's OK for Trump to come out with these sort of racist comments on a regular basis, yet if someone likens him to a Nazi then that's a big no no?
Because a lot of people agree with him. But they also know that being a Nazi isn't a good thing to be. But instead of changing their beliefs to be no like Nazis they instead just deny that the beliefs are Nazi-like.
They're also pretty ignorant and think that the only people who were Nazis were those who were shoving Jews into gas chambers. They don't think that the ordinary citizen who supported the Nazis, either with their silence or with their votes, were Nazis.
There's an awful lot of denial going on in their minds.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by aggi » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:39 pm

tiger76 wrote:Even the Republicans must have their heads in their hands over this,the guys totally flipped.

And then he claims that democratically elected congresswoman of colour hate their country,i can only see one person spreading hate here.

You do wonder if he's trying to inflame racial tensions to justify a law and order crackdown on BAME communities,nothing would surprise you with this president now.
Well: But Republican Congressman Andy Harris defended Mr Trump, telling WBAL radio: "Clearly it's not a racist comment. He could have meant go back to the district they came from, the neighbourhood they came from."

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:45 pm

aggi wrote:Well: But Republican Congressman Andy Harris defended Mr Trump, telling WBAL radio: "Clearly it's not a racist comment. He could have meant go back to the district they came from, the neighbourhood they came from."

That's a desperate, and easily debunkable, defence.

He clearly said "countries".

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Edit: Unless Harris is saying that Trump is saying his own government is "a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world". Which would be true, but i doubt he thinks Trump's saying that.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:33 pm

If you want a stag night out in Blackpool GO TO BLACKPOOL, don't go to Padiham.

If you're a Hindu and worship cows, GO TO PAMPLONA AND SIT IN A BULL RING WITH YOUR BULL FRIEND.

If you're a Kagyupta Buddhist who adores Milarepa as your guru, GO TO A SLATE QUARRY AND LIVE IN A HOLE, don't preach about desire and grasping to the lonely and the mentally ill.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:49 pm

Aaaaaand now they're "communists" :lol:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/15/poli ... 1563227086" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Full-scale McCarthyism is on it's way to America once again. :lol: Except this time there'll be no Joseph Welch. No Edward Murrow. Nothing and no one to stop them from doing what Joseph McCarthy couldn't, because the Dems are pushovers who won't impeach anyone.

Watch closely, because we're on the same path.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:52 pm

Typical no reply when it gets to the nitty gritty, from Turtle.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:59 pm

Pstotto wrote:Typical no reply when it gets to the nitty gritty, from Turtle.
If i did decide to seriously reply to something you said then no amount of the meds you're not taking would be enough to fix what's left of your mind.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:21 pm

Another intellectual content-less posting from Turtle in a huff.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:02 am

Honestly, I'm not exactly a trump fan but when he does stuff like this and sends the media and wider morality gate keepers of the left into meltdown. I do love it.
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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:33 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Honestly, I'm not exactly a trump fan but ...

No one believes you when you say this. I doubt even you believe you.

If you love it when this white supremacist is openly racist, because it upsets the liberals, then not only are you equally racist but you're also a supporter of the white supremacist.

All you've done here is confirm what i've said about you.
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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:31 am

White supremacist? Do you mean as opposed to Black Power and Feminism?

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Greenmile » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:51 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Honestly, I'm not exactly a trump fan but when he does stuff like this and sends the media and wider morality gate keepers of the left into meltdown. I do love it.
“I’m not a racist but I love it when a racist says and does racist stuff, because it upsets folk who don’t like racism”

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:58 am

Greenmile, it's called pc fascist goading.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Greenmile » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:27 am

Pstotto wrote:Greenmile, it's called pc fascist goading.
Call it what you want. I call it racism.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Spijed » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:46 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Honestly, I'm not exactly a trump fan but when he does stuff like this and sends the media and wider morality gate keepers of the left into meltdown. I do love it.
And I bet you'd be up in arms if anyone compares Trump to the Nazi's wouldn't you?

Hypocrisy!

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:49 am

Spijed wrote:And I bet you'd be up in arms if anyone compares Trump to the Nazi's wouldn't you?

Hypocrisy!

Of course. He hates it when he gets called a racist, but loves it when other people get called racists.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:47 pm

I think someone's decolonized Greenmile's thought process.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:55 pm

I think those people need to hurry up and raid Area 51 to get you off their internet connection.


Anyway, when asked a question about Trump's racist tweets, one of Trump's mouthpieces thought it appropriate to respond with "what's your ethnicity" instead of answering the reporter's question.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1151 ... 70022?s=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by LongsideFacingUp » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:52 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:No one believes you when you say this. I doubt even you believe you.

If you love it when this white supremacist is openly racist, because it upsets the liberals, then not only are you equally racist but you're also a supporter of the white supremacist.

All you've done here is confirm what i've said about you.
Pathetic this Turtle.

Calling someone a white supremacist and a racist with zero evidence.

Give your head a wobble you giant loser.

Still... Any day now... Woop Woop

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Greenmile » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:56 pm

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Pathetic this Turtle.

Calling someone a white supremacist and a racist with zero evidence.

Give your head a wobble you giant loser.

Still... Any day now... Woop Woop
“Zero evidence”

:roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Spijed » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:56 pm

The orange one says he hasn't got a racist bone in his body.

Mind you, if twitter had been around in the 1930's Hitler would no doubt have said the same thing!

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:02 pm

Spijed wrote:The orange one says he hasn't got a racist bone in his body.

Mind you, if twitter had been around in the 1930's Hitler would no doubt have said the same thing!
Well, you don't need to see yourself as a racist if you don't even think the race of people you hate are people.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:03 pm

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Pathetic this Turtle.

Calling someone a white supremacist and a racist with zero evidence.

Give your head a wobble you giant loser.

Still... Any day now... Woop Woop
:roll: :roll: :roll:

You really do live in your own little reality, don't you? I'd be willing to bet that if Trump had called them "ni**ers" you'd still deny that he's a racist.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by aggi » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:12 pm

A question for IT (or anyone else who wants to chip in).

Given that, due to the composition of the houses, it's very unlikely that Trump would actually be impeached do you still want impeachment proceedings to start?

Do you think things being brought out into the public eye will offset the damage of Trump claiming that he's fully exonerated if the proceedings fail?

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:29 pm

aggi wrote:A question for IT (or anyone else who wants to chip in).

Given that, due to the composition of the houses, it's very unlikely that Trump would actually be impeached do you still want impeachment proceedings to start?

Do you think things being brought out into the public eye will offset the damage of Trump claiming that he's fully exonerated if the proceedings fail?
Absolutely. There's no way he'll be thrown out of office, no matter how serious his crimes, but he'd definitely be impeached. Democrats have enough votes for that on their own. He won't be convicted, because the Republicans would never leak enough senate votes to allow that, no matter what his crimes are. But the process means the public gets to find out all the crimes he's committed, to the extent that they can be uncovered.

But more importantly, if the Democrats refuse to even impeach Trump then what exactly will they ever impeach a president over?
Get him under oath and on tape and force him to testify like only congress can.

But the Democrats are either absolute pussies, or they're playing politics with this because they would rather have Trump as their electoral opponent and not any other Republican. It has been clear since he openly and freely admitted obstruction of justice in an interview two years ago that there is grounds for impeachment. Robert Mueller built the case for them and said that it is congress's job to follow through from his report. At this point they are allowing him to get away with everything.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:38 pm

The Racist party tried to have Speaker Pelosi's words stricken from the public record because she called Trump's tweets racist.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... s-n1030266" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:56 pm

FCBurnley wrote:As always you only tell part of the story. The Democrat Leader of the House Steny Heyer has ordered her comments to be struck from the record. Hilarious ! watching the Dems now trying to get Pelosi her speaking rights back. Give em enough rope eh

Was that mentioned in the article i linked?

Clue: It was not.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:57 pm

What do you think of his comments, FCBurnley? Do you think they're racist?

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:01 pm

FCBurnley wrote:As always you only tell part of the story. The Democrat Leader of the House Steny Heyer has ordered her comments to be struck from the record. Hilarious ! watching the Dems now trying to get Pelosi her speaking rights back. Give em enough rope eh

Oh. Beautiful. You accuse me of not telling the whole story and yet you are guilty of that exact thing.

Steny Hoyer was only carrying out the parliamentarians advice, and he in fact voted AGAINST the motion.
So who's the one not telling the whole story?

Clue: It's you, FCBurnley. It's always you.


https://twitter.com/NateOnTheHill/statu ... 44737?s=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Edit: How'd you manage to delete your posts when i'd replied already?

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:18 am

The House of Representatives voted to condemn Trump's remarks as racist.

Here's civil rights icon John Lewis speaking. Feel free to tell me that he doesn't know what racism is.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1151258044979769344?s=13" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:41 am

Just supposing IT IS... Yeah?

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:44 am

To Russia with love in a Mosckovitch, eh Turtle?

We'll start it with cars... Your go, Turtle.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:09 am

According to Republicans this isn't racism

https://twitter.com/tonydokoupil/status ... 77056?s=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:24 am

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Pathetic this Turtle.

Calling someone a white supremacist and a racist with zero evidence.

Give your head a wobble you giant loser.

Still... Any day now... Woop Woop
Turtle and his loyal band of merry Marxists do not care for things like evidence, they much rather use hysterical accusations and cry and scream that you are a 1940's super villain than actually admit that normal people think they talk a load of BS. It's not their fault for the most part, they are just highly emotive people, they cannot separate morality from politics, they think that anyone who doesn't think like them is simply evil, and therefore any means of stopping them, be that lies, or whatever is totally justified.

I mean after all, if you could go back in time and kill hitler, you would right?

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Pstotto » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:28 am

Turtle is a luvvie husky who hoovers valor as dirt with howls of yellow challenge, no doubt whilst drooling over BBC webpages.

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:32 am

Pstotto wrote:Turtle is a luvvie husky who hoovers valor as dirt with howls of yellow challenge, no doubt whilst drooling over BBC webpages.
So’s yer mum!

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Re: Trump/Russia Dossier

Post by Erasmus » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:46 am

Moffitt, are there are any Marxists posting here? I don't think you know what Marxism is, do you? I have never seen a post on this board that was Marxist, so why would you make that claim? I also think, and hope, that 'normal people' find racism abhorrent, and Trump's tweets have a stink of racism about them so it's no surprise that the normal people are rather troubled by the man's remarks.
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