Trump/Russia Dossier

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:18 pm

Uwe Noble wrote: He knows that Flynn did not lie to the FBI and (along with his son?) being blackmailed with charges for being an unregistered foreign agent, not an uncommon occurrence in the 'swamp'.

The judge doesn't need Flynn to withdraw his plea. The judge can throw it out if he wants to. But you being an idiot wouldn't be interested in finding that little fact out for yourself. You'll just believe what your idiot Gab friends tell you, like the good little mindeless pede that you are.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:44 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:The judge doesn't need Flynn to withdraw his plea. The judge can throw it out if he wants to. But you being an idiot wouldn't be interested in finding that little fact out for yourself. You'll just believe what your idiot Gab friends tell you, like the good little mindeless pede that you are.

He never fails to bite! I'll be back in 2019 when the embarrassment known as the Mueller enquiry turns up with nothing on Russia/Trump conspiracy. Perhaps at that point you might want to apologise to everyone on the Claretsmad board for boring us to death with your interminable posts. Merry Christmas!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:52 pm

Uwe Noble wrote:He never fails to bite! I'll be back in 2019 when the embarrassment known as the Mueller enquiry turns up with nothing on Russia/Trump conspiracy. Perhaps at that point you might want to apologise to everyone on the Claretsmad board for boring us to death with your interminable posts. Merry Christmas!

So you admit to posting fallacies?

And that's cute. Look at you trying to get the thread deleted by mentioning that other board. That desperate, huh?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:33 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:So you admit to posting fallacies?

And that's cute. Look at you trying to get the thread deleted by mentioning that other board. That desperate, huh?

If one was to look at this thread and its entirity of content, then was asked to use the word desperate to describe one poster, who do you think they would say?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:13 am

It couldn't describe one poster though could it?

Fair few of you are happy to back Trump as everyone he's connected with ends up in jail.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:02 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:If one was to look at this thread and its entirety of content, then was asked to use the word desperate to describe one poster, who do you think they would say?

If they were normal people, and read each post and weighed the facts? Probably either Smudge or Uwe.

If they were you then obviously me because you're not really interested in politicians being owned by foreign countries if you broadly like their politics. Because it really isn't about the facts with you people, it's about smearing people whose politics you don't like with terms like "obsessed" and "hysterical" etc. Even as everyone and everything Trump touched becomes corrupted, you'll still think that people like me are the problem.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:07 pm

Imploding Turtle

".. you're not really interested in politicians being owned by foreign countries if you broadly like their politics...."

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This was accomplished in consultation with Adelson comprador John Bolton, who in December 2016 promised members of the American Friends of Beit El that Trump would not only move the embassy—declaring Jerusalem the true capital of Israel—but that he would not oppose any Jewish settlement expansion in the West Bank territories. Adelson is also credited with opening the door for Bolton’s appointment to national security adviser in March.

Meanwhile, Adelson has enjoyed a direct line to Trump, speaking with him in person and on the phone at least once a month. Most recently Adelson was able to convince the president to cut off U.S. aid to Palestinian refugees living in crowded, dirty, and unrelentingly hopeless refugee camps outside Israel. Around the same time, Trump withdrew $25 million in assistance from impoverished East Jerusalem hospitals that also serve Palestinian cancer patients allowed in from the West Bank and Gaza for treatment....."

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:20 pm

This is your friendly reminder that it's been 2 years since this dossier was published by Buzzfeed News and still nothing in it has been disproven.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:21 am

Psst... suborning perjury is a very serious crime. Who wants to be the first to defend it?

President Trump Directed His Attorney Michael Cohen To Lie To Congress About The Moscow Tower Project

MG70 · Post by **MG70** » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:19 am

Oh bloody hell he's back.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:50 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:This is your friendly reminder that it's been 2 years since this dossier was published by Buzzfeed News and still nothing in it has been disproven.

Buzzfeed

Test User · Post by **Test User** » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:21 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Buzzfeed

They didn't write it. They only published it. A former MI6 agent and regular reliable FBI source wrote it and nothing's been disproven.
But keep laughing and flick over to Fox News for the "real" truth.

Incidentally, Buzzfeed also reported this week that Trump suborned perjury and when Mueller's office gave Trump a slither of a PR win his crisis management attorney ****** that up by saying that Trump might have spoken to Cohen about his testimony, further giving credence to what will surely be Pulitzer prize winning journalism from Buzzfeed News.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... stimony-so" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:46 am

Even Fox is calling him it

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:13 am

Test User wrote:They didn't write it. They only published it. A former MI6 agent and regular reliable FBI source wrote it and nothing's been disproven.
But keep laughing and flick over to Fox News for the "real" truth.

Incidentally, Buzzfeed also reported this week that Trump suborned perjury and when Mueller's office gave Trump a slither of a PR win his crisis management attorney ****** that up by saying that Trump might have spoken to Cohen about his testimony, further giving credence to what will surely be Pulitzer prize winning journalism from Buzzfeed News.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... stimony-so" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The idea that you cite BuzzFeed as even remotely credible shows how desparate your argument is. Their latest fake news (claiming Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress) was publically refuted by Mueller and they still won't acknowledge it! You also conveniently overlook the fact that the "reliable" MI5 agent was sacked by the FBI. Never mind, when the Mueller report comes out soon exonerating Trump you can join Turtle in writing your apologies for boring us all to death for two years.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:15 am

Uwe Noble wrote:The idea that you cite BuzzFeed as even remotely credible shows how desparate your argument is. Their latest fake news (claiming Trump instructed Cohen to lie to Congress) was publically refuted by Mueller and they still won't acknowledge it! You also conveniently overlook the fact that the "reliable" MI5 agent was sacked by the FBI. Never mind, when the Mueller report comes out soon exonerating Trump you can join Turtle in writing your apologies for boring us all to death for two years.

You're either lying, or wrong. I don't care which one it is because you're not interested in being right.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:58 pm

4 more years nailed on ...MAGA.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:12 pm

I'm no lover of Trump but I wouldn't bet too much money on him not winning a second term. It would be interesting to hear some U.S. based opinion because there seems a lot more excitement about Trump's problems over here than at home. It is them that vote.

(edit for re-phrase)

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:32 pm

I think I'd fall over laughing if he got a second term.

He wasn't meant to make it past the first couple of years of his first term according to some but there he is, still going strong.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:37 pm

If he's allowed to use the term "national emergency" to build a wall no one needs (and which his donors will get the contracts for) then you might as well kiss goodbye to accountability in the US.

Dunno if any of you have seen that clip in which @AOC completely highlights just how unaccountable US Presidents are already, but if you haven't, its well worth a look.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:58 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I think I'd fall over laughing if he got a second term.

He wasn't meant to make it past the first couple of years of his first term according to some but there he is, still going strong.

It certainly helped him to have a Republican congress refusing to do any kind of oversight. Even I was surprised at how much they abdicated their responsibilities, and I had an extremely low opinion of them to start with.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:48 am

Trump's long-time "fixer" and convicted felon is testifying to congress tomorrow and he's expected to provide documentary evidence to show that Trump has committed crimes while in office.

What he says should be taken with a pinch of salt since he has been convicted of lying to congress already, but he does have no motive to lie any more as previously he was lying on behalf of Trump, and with corroboration then it must be taken seriously by all but the most sycophantic of Trump supporters. We know who they are on here. I'm sure they'll make an appearance soon enough.

Wednesday is going to be an interesting news day. I'll link a stream when it becomes available at around 3pm GMT.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:51 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Trump's long-time "fixer" and convicted felon is testifying to congress tomorrow and he's expected to provide documentary evidence to show that Trump has committed crimes while in office.

What he says should be taken with a pinch of salt since he has been convicted of lying to congress already, but he does have no motive to lie any more as previously he was lying on behalf of Trump, and with corroboration then it must be taken seriously by all but the most sycophantic of Trump supporters. We know who they are on here. I'm sure they'll make an appearance soon enough.

Wednesday is going to be an interesting news day. I'll link a stream when it becomes available at around 3pm GMT.

I hope it's devastating for Trump, the orange faced numpty

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:53 am

Vegas Claret wrote:I hope it's devastating for Trump, the orange faced numpty

It's got to be spectacular if some congressmen are okay with making these kind of threats so publicly.

Can you imagine the kind of threats he's facing in private if this is the kind of threat that's made publicly?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:23 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:It's got to be spectacular if some congressmen are okay with making these kind of threats so publicly.

Can you imagine the kind of threats he's facing in private if this is the kind of threat that's made publicly?

it's ******* bonkers IT but anything he can do to dethrone the orange shitbag it will be appreciated

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:41 am

The Cohen testimony is pulling no punches!
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper ... pdf#page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Opening comments:
I am ashamed because I know what Mr. Trump is.
He is a racist.
He is a conman.
He is a cheat.

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:48 pm

aggi wrote:The Cohen testimony is pulling no punches!
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper ... pdf#page=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Opening comments:
I am ashamed because I know what Mr. Trump is.
He is a racist.
He is a conman.
He is a cheat.

Cohen is a liar and all know it as was so called Dr Ford and the same idiots will claim it's true..

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:50 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I think I'd fall over laughing if he got a second term.

He wasn't meant to make it past the first couple of years of his first term according to some but there he is, still going strong.

change the if he got to a "when he gets" and your there..

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:51 pm

SmudgetheClaret wrote:Cohen is a liar and all know it as was so called Dr Ford and the same idiots will claim it's true..

"Cohen is a liar"

Yes, his lie was saying that Trump did nothing wrong. But keep telling everyone that, it's amusing.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:51 pm

If he's lying, he goes to jail for five more years.

Seems to be a stretch thinking he's risk that just to smear Trump don't you think?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:21 pm

Let’s just all remember here that’s it’s all the people Trump has employed who are the problem and not Donnie himself.

How was he supposed to know all these people were crooks?
Give him a break ffs.

LongsideFacingUp · Post by **LongsideFacingUp** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:08 pm

Any day now...

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:02 pm

Here's the entertainment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rKCWG0VOYw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:05 pm

Mark Meadows is grandstanding over Cohen's written testimony being provided within 24 hours of the testimony when they're supposed to have it 24 hours before the testimony.

He must be really worried about what Cohen's about to say if he's trying to prevent it so obviously.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:21 pm

Now the Republican ranking member is talking about Lanny Davis because "OOOOHOHOOHhhhh the Clintons!".

Jim Jordan yielded back to Chairman Cummings, Cummings started to talk, and then Jordan remembered that he had a motion, and Cummings told him to get ****** with "you yielded back". Jordan, then whines for a minute.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:36 pm

This is gold btw

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:55 pm

Not gold anymore.

Trump is a liar, a **** and a racist.

Nothing but more confirmation of that, which is apparently not enough for US voters.

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:56 pm

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Any day now...

Yep, can't be far off.....

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:09 pm

Well, I guess it depends on whether you care if your politicians lie or not.

I know you guys don't care, unless of course they are lying about something you care about.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:31 pm

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Any day now...

AndyClaret wrote:Yep, can't be far off.....

Have you two got ANY comment whatsoever on what is actually happening, or are you two just not interested in discussing the news and instead mocking some strawman you've created?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:04 pm

The republicans are literally using the term "liar liar pants on fire".

They even made a ******* poster for it. What a set of clowns.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:14 pm

That was my favourite part so far. Top quality political discourse:

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Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:24 am

That peace prize is looking further and further away as well now that he’s achieved the square root of **** all with North Korea nuclear weapons despite all his postering after the first meeting.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:30 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:That peace prize is looking further and further away as well now that he’s achieved the square root of **** all with North Korea nuclear weapons despite all his postering after the first meeting.

Who wants to bet he still called it a "great success"/"tremendous success".

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:14 pm

REPUBLICANS [to Cohen]: You acted unethically!

COHEN: Yes, that's what I'm saying. For Trump.

REPUBLICANS: You lied!

COHEN: Uh, huh. Yep. About Trump.

REPUBLICANS: You did shitty things!

COHEN: Totally. For Trump.

REPUBLICANS:

COHEN:

REPUBLICANS: This exonerates Trump.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:11 pm

I see Trump's 'bezzy mate' has pwned him good and proper.

Anyway, at least he can now say that he actually went to Vietnam.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:39 pm

Is he impeached yet?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:08 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Is he impeached yet?

Because if he's not been impeached yet then it must be because he's innocent, right?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:12 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Because if he's not been impeached yet then it must be because he's innocent, right?

I mean thats generally how we do things in liberal democracies.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:15 pm

Its all a big conspiracy ain't it CM?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:18 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Its all a big conspiracy ain't it CM?

bUt wE WeRe tOlD He'd bE ImPeAcHeD WiThIn 2 wEeKs