Trump/Russia Dossier

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:00 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:You did drone on a lot about how he was going to be out of office at some point though, yet he's still there, going to last a full term and likely to go for a second one.

No, i didn't. If i droned on so much then it should be easy to find a couple of examples. So, please proceed to provide them.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:09 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:No, i didn't. If i droned on so much then it should be easy to find a couple of examples. So, please proceed to provide them.

Yes, you did.

Unlike you, I'm not willing to trawl through hundreds, if not thousands, of your posts about trump.

Just accept that you've droned on a lot and let's leave it at that.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:35 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Yes, you did.

Unlike you, I'm not willing to trawl through hundreds, if not thousands, of your posts about trump.

Just accept that you've droned on a lot and let's leave it at that.

But you claim that repeatedly predicted that Trump would be kicked out of office. You claim that i did this so repeatedly that it qualifies as "droning on". So why do you need to "trawl through hundreds, if not thousands" of posts if i was "droning on" about it.

If you have to trawl through thousands of posts to find more than one example of something then that's proof that I didn't "drone on" about it.

So you've kinda disproved your own accusation. Well done, you daft sod.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:53 am

Yawn, keep on droning you boring turtle.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:01 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Yawn, keep on droning you boring turtle.

Good response to having your argument ruined. I expected nothing more.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:32 am

Tommy Two Twitters getting owned again.

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:51 am

IanMcL wrote:Trump is the modern day Adolf and a huge danger to the world. Everything he does mirrors the rise of Nazism.

....and he is in charge of the worlds most powerful country.

Yeah, he's just like Hitler!

Who taught you history? Goebbels?

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:53 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Good response to having your argument ruined. I expected nothing more.

Time to give it up. You're embarrassing yourself. It's over. Trump is innocent. Rejoice!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:04 am

Uwe Noble wrote:
Yeah, he's just like Hitler! Who taught you history? Goebbels?

Hmm....Uwe

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:36 am

Remember this, which was never debunked? (Edit: not proven either, i must add)

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:35 pm

Catherine Pugh. Democrat Mayor of Baltimore. Not read much about her on here ! BBC reporting today that FBI and Tax authorities have raided her offices. Another case of do as I say not do as I do.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:45 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Catherine Pugh. Democrat Mayor of Baltimore. Not read much about her on here ! BBC reporting today that FBI and Tax authorities have raided her offices. Another case of do as I say not do as I do.

Interesting. The "tax authorities" were involved. So i guess an investigatory body had taken a look her taxes.

Remind me, and bear in mind "do as i say, not as i do", how has Trump reacted to congress ordering the IRS to send them his tax returns?

Also, it's pretty obvious that you're desperately scrambling for any corrupt democrat to highlight, as if that somehow makes all democrats corrupt. Hard to imagine why you people receive so many accusations of certain forms of bigotry, isn't it?

"Do as I say not as i do"

******* hell. Self-awareness really isn't your thing, is it?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:16 pm

FCBurnley wrote:blah blah

Hey FCBurnley, what do you think about this? https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/stat ... 8801006592" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Clearly this means Britain should face some sort of sanction, right?

Uwe Noble · Post by **Uwe Noble** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:49 pm

Did n't everyone laugh at Trump when he claimed he was being wire-tapped? Now we know he spoke the truth. Guess what, so us this. The tables are about to be turned.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:44 pm

The press are getting a little bit sassy with their headlines

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:40 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Interesting. The "tax authorities" were involved. So i guess an investigatory body had taken a look her taxes.

Remind me, and bear in mind "do as i say, not as i do", how has Trump reacted to congress ordering the IRS to send them his tax returns?

Also, it's pretty obvious that you're desperately scrambling for any corrupt democrat to highlight, as if that somehow makes all democrats corrupt. Hard to imagine why you people receive so many accusations of certain forms of bigotry, isn't it?

"Do as I say not as i do" ******* hell. Self-awareness really isn't your thing, is it?

Bait taken. Thanks

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:41 am

FCBurnley wrote:Bait taken. Thanks

So there's nothing you've got to refute my point except to claim that you were just pretending?

You're literally a meme
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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:22 am

FCBurnley wrote:...

No families are `torn apart` ...

Your guy:

“We go out and we stop the separation,” Trump said. “The problem is you have 10 times more people coming up with their families. It’s like Disneyland now. You know, before you’d get separated so people would say, ‘Let’s not go up.’ Now you don’t get separated and, you know, while that sounds nice and all, what happens is you have—literally you have 10 times more families coming up because they’re not going to be separated from their children.”

This is proof that it was a deliberate tactic. He intended this to be cruel so that it would act as a deterrent, and he's upset that he cant' do it any more.

Please show me that there is some humanity left within you by telling me that you are not OK with this.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:50 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Remember the name Jacob Wohl, because he's in an awful lot of trouble

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... on-n926301" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I told you to remember the name. He's trying to get people to falsely accuse someone else of sexual assault.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pete-bu ... ?r=US&IR=T" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So that's two people he's tried to concoct allegations against.

You know what i think is happening here? I think that this clown genuinely thinks that he's doing exactly what democrats do. I think he thinks Democrats do exactly this, try to persuade people to create false sexual assault claims, and he must be at a loss to understand why it is that whenever he tries it people come forward and out his scheme to the press, but they don't when Democrats do it. (psst, probably because they don't do it)

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:37 am

Yawn..

Still prattling on about this?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:59 am

Right_winger wrote:Yawn..

Still prattling on about this?

Still posting in topics you don't care about?

SmudgetheClaret · Post by **SmudgetheClaret** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:24 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Still posting in topics you don't care about?

And now it's back onto Trumps finances what's next his food choices ...

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:14 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:27 pm

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Oh dear...

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:30 pm

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:31 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
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Oh dear...

Probably realised how bad it looked after he publicly congratulated the #2 NFL draft pick for being the #2 draft pick, but said nothing about the #1 pick. I think you can guess why.

Oh dear indeed.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:40 pm

Seeing as he's not the first president to not hand it out, why's it an issue now?
He did meet him though so that sort of ****** allover that tweet you were waving around, oops.

Yeah he probably didn't want to meet the first NFL draft who's been having a go at him on social media, but that won't be the only reason at a guess.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:48 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Seeing as he's not the first president to not hand it out, why's it an issue now?
He did meet him though so that sort of ****** allover that tweet you were waving around, oops.

Yeah he probably didn't want to meet the first NFL draft who's been having a go at him on social media, but that won't be the only reason at a guess.

Meet? No. He tweeted his congratulations.

It's not really an issue, as long as he can explain what was more important than handing out the award that wasn't more important either of other two times the award was awarded during his presidency, both of which he attended.

It's just a massive coincidence though, right? That the racist-in-chief attended the ceremony the two times in his presidency when white teachers won it but not the first time a black one won it, just days after he tweeted his congratulations to a white #2 draft pick but not the black #1 draft pick. It's all just a series of unfortunate coincidences.

Kinda like his entire presidency.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:38 pm

I posted something that said he met the teacher at the White House...didn't you see it, or are you just ignoring it?

Also he isn't the first president to not handout the award, so again it's probably racist, but you need to be more careful choosing which sticks to beat him with.
You're usually more careful than this, I'm guessing you got all giddy and failed to check this out properly first.

As for the NFL draft argument, yeah it's probably racist reasons.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:40 pm

Oh and he didn't hand out last year's award either, but met them after they'd done all the speeches etc, but you didn't seem that bothered about it last year.

Was that because it was a white person and not an issue for you then?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:13 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Oh and he didn't hand out last year's award either, but met them after they'd done all the speeches etc, but you didn't seem that bothered about it last year.

Was that because it was a white person and not an issue for you then?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... dy-manning" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"Trump presented her with the National Teacher of the Year award in the East Room and praised her “incredible devotion”. The US president said: “Teachers like Mandy play a vital role in the wellbeing of our children, the strength of our communities and the success of our nation.”"

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:27 am

Mueller says Barr's summary of his report was bullshit. So, who here still believes Barr's summary?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 4a80fff951" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed May 01, 2019 8:48 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Meet? No. He tweeted his congratulations.

Tweeted him quite close up though.

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 8:52 am

thatdberight wrote:Tweeted him quite close up though.
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"Meet? No. He tweeted his congratulations."

was a reply to...

"Yeah he probably didn't want to meet the first NFL draft who's been having a go at him on social media, but that won't be the only reason at a guess."

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed May 01, 2019 8:56 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:

"Meet? No. He tweeted his congratulations."

was a reply to...

"Yeah he probably didn't want to meet the first NFL draft who's been having a go at him on social media, but that won't be the only reason at a guess."

OK. Still useful to show how bad Trump is at hiding from people he doesn't want to meet / be seen with.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 9:01 am

thatdberight wrote:OK. Still useful to show how bad Trump is at hiding from people he doesn't want to meet / be seen with.

Sure. As I said, it must just be a coincidence that he repeatedly signals racism. I guess instead of being obviously racist he's just really, really unlucky.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed May 01, 2019 9:10 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Sure. As I said, it must just be a coincidence that he repeatedly signals racism. I guess instead of being obviously racist he's just really, really unlucky.

Clearly, in his office, Trump should rise above the personal - but he doesn't. The #2 draft pick in the NFL has publicly supported Trump. The #1 hasn't as far as I know (but equally hasn't publicly been critical). That, rather than race, seems much more likely to me. If you want to root-cause that back to why, in your opinion, that white #2 pick would be that way, that's fine but ignoring the obvious is weird. Trump doesn't delineate between all this stuff - one of his supporters did well, he congratulates him. That's a very straightforward and uncomplicated reading of it - but doesn't play to the presumption made by many.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 10:48 am

thatdberight wrote:Clearly, in his office, Trump should rise above the personal - but he doesn't. The #2 draft pick in the NFL has publicly supported Trump. The #1 hasn't as far as I know (but equally hasn't publicly been critical). That, rather than race, seems much more likely to me. If you want to root-cause that back to why, in your opinion, that white #2 pick would be that way, that's fine but ignoring the obvious is weird. Trump doesn't delineate between all this stuff - one of his supporters did well, he congratulates him. That's a very straightforward and uncomplicated reading of it - but doesn't play to the presumption made by many.

I haven't ignored the obvious, so it's not weird. Trump has a history of racism, and this is just more evidence that shows he is racist.

After he refers to Nazis as very fine people, defends monuments to traitors and slave owners, criticises Hispanic judges as "conflicted", attacks black NFL players for protesting against police brutality because it's disrespectful to the American flag and soldiers while simultaneously defending white supremacists waving the Confederate flag at their protests, refers to Mexican immigrants as rapists and murderers, says he doesn't want black people counting his money, only Jews, locks brown kids in cages and separates thousands from their parents and then whines that he had to stop doing that, was ordered to by a judge to end his racist business practices, (and so on...) at some point you've got to wake the **** up and realise that this guy is racist and that **** like this is is him signalling his virtue to his base. The racists.

They're not entirely stupid, they know that sometimes people like Trump has to pander to the mainstream. That's why they were OK with him eventually criticising the Charlottesville Nazis publicly after resisting it for 2 or 3 days. It means they get to turn round and accuse people like me of being ridiculous when I try to point this out to people like you who are innocently oblivious to this kind of tactic. And naturally you see it their way because on the face of it, without a deeper understanding of what's going on, it does seem ridiculous. But that's kind of the point of dog-whistle racism nowadays. It used to be about signalling secretly in plain sight to fellow racists, but it's evolved now to being a little bit more visible but semi-humourously so as to allow them to define anyone who calls them out as hysterical. Don't believe me? Start slipping in "honk honk" to your posts on any other social media you use.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Wed May 01, 2019 10:52 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I haven't ignored the obvious, so it's not weird. Trump has a history of racism, and this is just more evidence that shows he is racist.

After he refers to Nazis as very fine people, defends monuments to traitors and slave owners, criticises Hispanic judges as "conflicted", attacks black NFL players for protesting against police brutality because it's disrespectful to the American flag and soldiers while simultaneously defending white supremacists waving the Confederate flag at their protests, refers to Mexican immigrants as rapists and murderers, says he doesn't want black people counting his money, only Jews, locks brown kids in cages and separates thousands from their parents and then whines that he had to stop doing that, was ordered to by a judge to end his racist business practices, (and so on...) at some point you've got to wake the **** up and realise that this guy is racist and that **** like this is is him signalling his virtue to his base. The racists.

They're not entirely stupid, they know that sometimes people like Trump has to pander to the mainstream. That's why they were OK with him eventually criticising the Charlottesville Nazis publicly after resisting it for 2 or 3 days. It means they get to turn round and accuse people like me of being ridiculous when I try to point this out to people like you who are innocently oblivious to this kind of tactic. And naturally you see it their way because on the face of it, without a deeper understanding of what's going on, it does seem ridiculous. But that's kind of the point of dog-whistle racism nowadays. It used to be about signalling secretly in plain sight to fellow racists, but it's evolved now to being a little bit more visible but semi-humourously so as to allow them to define anyone who calls them out as hysterical. Don't believe me? Start slipping in "honk honk" to your posts on any other social media you use.

If you say so.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed May 01, 2019 11:13 am

As he gone yet?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 5:45 pm

60 retweets in an hour this morning

A very stable mind indeed.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed May 01, 2019 6:39 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I haven't ignored the obvious, so it's not weird. Trump has a history of racism, and this is just more evidence that shows he is racist.

After he refers to Nazis as very fine people, defends monuments to traitors and slave owners, criticises Hispanic judges as "conflicted", attacks black NFL players for protesting against police brutality because it's disrespectful to the American flag and soldiers while simultaneously defending white supremacists waving the Confederate flag at their protests, refers to Mexican immigrants as rapists and murderers, says he doesn't want black people counting his money, only Jews, locks brown kids in cages and separates thousands from their parents and then whines that he had to stop doing that, was ordered to by a judge to end his racist business practices, (and so on...) at some point you've got to wake the **** up and realise that this guy is racist and that **** like this is is him signalling his virtue to his base. The racists.

They're not entirely stupid, they know that sometimes people like Trump has to pander to the mainstream. That's why they were OK with him eventually criticising the Charlottesville Nazis publicly after resisting it for 2 or 3 days. It means they get to turn round and accuse people like me of being ridiculous when I try to point this out to people like you who are innocently oblivious to this kind of tactic. And naturally you see it their way because on the face of it, without a deeper understanding of what's going on, it does seem ridiculous. But that's kind of the point of dog-whistle racism nowadays. It used to be about signalling secretly in plain sight to fellow racists, but it's evolved now to being a little bit more visible but semi-humourously so as to allow them to define anyone who calls them out as hysterical. Don't believe me? Start slipping in "honk honk" to your posts on any other social media you use.

are we still peddling this lie?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 6:52 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:are we still peddling this lie?

On one side were Neo-nazis. On the other side were people protesting against the Neo-nazis.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:00 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:

On one side were Neo-nazis. On the other side were people protesting against the Neo-nazis.

The left: " you cant demonise an entire group of people just because a few are bad, that's bigoted"

Also the left: "Every singe person that was protesting about the removal of that statue was a nazi!@!@!@!@"

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:08 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:The left: " you cant demonise an entire group of people just because a few are bad, that's bigoted"

Also the left: "Every singe person that was protesting about the removal of that statue was a nazi!@!@!@!@"

If you protest the removal of a monument celebrating the white supremacy of someone who literally fought one side of a civil war to defend white supremacy, then you're a white supremacist.

No one is being lumped in with others. Their own actions demonstrate that they are a white supremacist.

(tip: i've used "nazi" as shorthand for white supremacist. If you want to challenge that then feel free)

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:17 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:If you protest the removal of a monument celebrating the white supremacy of someone who literally fought one side of a civil war to defend white supremacy, then you're a white supremacist.

No one is being lumped in with others. Their own actions demonstrate that they are a white supremacist.

(tip: i've used "nazi" as shorthand for white supremacist. If you want to challenge that then feel free)

The pyramids were built by Jewish slaves who were tortured by their oppressors, do you thing they should be torn down?
Mount Rushmore was designed by a sculptor who allegedly had ties to the Ku Klux Klan, and was built on seized land, guess that needs taking down too.
The Yasukuni Shinto Shrine in Tokyo memorialises war criminals along with Japanese soldiers, better pressure them to get rid.
The Che Guevara monument in Bolivia should be taken down too, he hated black people and executed homosexuals, (solution = see above)
Auschwitz was literally created by Nais to literally kill jews, how the hell is that still standing???

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:28 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:The pyramids were built by Jewish slaves who were tortured by their oppressors, do you thing they should be torn down?
Mount Rushmore was designed by a sculptor who allegedly had ties to the Ku Klux Klan, and was built on seized land, guess that needs taking down too.
The Yasukuni Shinto Shrine in Tokyo memorialises war criminals along with Japanese soldiers, better pressure them to get rid.
The Che Guevara monument in Bolivia should be taken down too, he hated black people and executed homosexuals, (solution = see above)
Auschwitz was literally created by Nais to literally kill jews, how the hell is that still standing???

Are any of those monuments a celebration of the evil used to create them? Are the pyramids celebrating Jewish slavery?
Is Auschwitz now a celebration of the Holocaust?

Are you deliberately refusing to understand the objection to the Robert E Lee statue? Or is your stupidity an accident? Because if it's the latter then i reiterate the importance of you going to seek medical advice because if i gave a **** about you i'd be worried for you.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:51 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Are any of those monuments a celebration of the evil used to create them? Are the pyramids celebrating Jewish slavery?
Is Auschwitz now a celebration of the Holocaust?

Are you deliberately refusing to understand the objection to the Robert E Lee statue? Or is your stupidity an accident? Because if it's the latter then i reiterate the importance of you going to seek medical advice because if i gave a **** about you i'd be worried for you.

Depends, to those that want to see those things in that manner, i'm sure they are, to those that want to view them as a constant reminder to the people of today of the horrors of yesterday, no, its the polar opposite; and to everyone in between, they're just a little piece of history to be reflected upon, a surviving relic of more turbulent times.

But of course then you get the leftys.

"if it doesn't portray exactly what I want then it should be burnt or destroyed or it will infect peoples minds and weaken our political dogma"

Kind of like the Nazis and ISIS do.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:54 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Depends, to those that want to see those things in that manner, i'm sure they are, to those that want to view them as a constant reminder to the people of today of the horrors of yesterday, no, its the polar opposite; and to everyone in between, they're just a little piece of history to be reflected upon, a surviving relic of more turbulent times.

But of course then you get the leftys.

"if it doesn't portray exactly what I want then it should be burnt or destroyed or it will infect peoples minds and weaken our political dogma"

Kind of like the Nazis and ISIS do.

No one was trying to destroy the ******* statue.

You haven't got a ******* clue what you're on about, do you?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Wed May 01, 2019 7:57 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:No one was trying to destroy the ******* statue. You haven't got a ******* clue what you're on about, do you?

left wing groups pressured city counsels to remove the statue, they got their wish, people went out to protest on both sides. It's a pretty simple situation.