Ben Gibson

[claretcarrot93]

As much as I love Ben Mee, I think Tarks and Gibson would be a great partnership if given the chance.

I agree, its crazy they have not been given a chance yet.

[tim_noone]

Theres someone very argumentative on the board today.

[Safron]

As much as I love Ben Mee, I think Tarks and Gibson would be a great partnership if given the chance.

Quite right unfortunately won't happen untill either injury or suspension to mee, and dyche would probably go with long instead,has he knows is play

[FactualFrank]

I agree, its crazy they have not been given a chance yet.

When you look at how long it took SD to realise that Ben Mee was never a left back, it's not that surprising really. Both Mee moving central and McNeil getting his chance were both forced. I sense a Tarks - Gibson partnership would only happen if Mee suffered a lengthy injury.

[claretcarrot93]

When you look at how long it took SD to realise that Ben Mee was never a left back, it's not that surprising really. Both Mee moving central and McNeil getting his chance were both forced. I sense a Tarks - Gibson partnership would only happen if Mee suffered a lengthy injury.

Agree, Gibson must regret joining us. Shame, he has all the pedigree to be a very good player. Played for all the young England sides from u17 upwards, called to the senior squad and captained a Prem team at 23. Bet he cant wait to leave and get his career back on track.

[ClaretTony]

You only get capped when you play for the senior side dont you? that said he was going in that direction and has hit a stumble block joining us when to be fair to him he was probably looking at furthering his international career by playing in a Premier League side that has party of its defence already catching the England Boss eye.

England U21 (ten appearances, one goal, 2014-15), England U20 (four appearances, 2014), England U18 (one appearances, 2011), England U17 (five appearances, one goal, 2009-10

Lot of players do that and then don't go on to play at full international level.

[claretcarrot93]

Lot of players do that and then don't go on to play at full international level.

Do you think Gibson should or should have been given a chance? Seem to be quickly putting down his credentials.

[Murger]

Would you be able to list Gibson's caps?

I said an international call up, which he has. Which is also 1 more than Ben Mee has.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.gaze ... 090214.amp

Edit: 3 more.

[FactualFrank]

Agree, Gibson must regret joining us. Shame, he has all the pedigree to be a very good player. Played for all the young England sides from u17 upwards, called to the senior squad and captained a Prem team at 23. Bet he cant wait to leave and get his career back on track.

I've no idea whether we signed Gibson, thinking Mee was on his way or not, but from our POV it was a sound move as a backup. It just so happened that neither Tarkowski nor Mee have missed any/many games. That's just the way it is sometimes in football. It wasn't a bad move on our part though, but without hindsight he probably does regret coming. Then again, he may understand the conveyor-belt analogy and is still making every effort to make the starting 11.

[Stayingup]

The way we are at the moment I wonder if Sean Dyche has considered playing a back three of Gibson, Tarks and Mee. Taylor as a wing back and A,N Other as a wing back on the other side of the pitch. A.N Other being a new signing hopefully.

[Paul Waine]

I've no idea whether we signed Gibson, thinking Mee was on his way or not, but from our POV it was a sound move as a backup. It just so happened that neither Tarkowski nor Mee have missed any/many games. That's just the way it is sometimes in football. It wasn't a bad move on our part though, but without hindsight he probably does regret coming. Then again, he may understand the conveyor-belt analogy and is still making every effort to make the starting 11.

Do we think Ben Gibson would have been injury free if he'd signed for a different club?

We all know that Ben Mee is as tough as the (Monty Python) Knight, "merely a scratch" when others might be saying "my leg's broken...."

Yes, I'd love us to play with a back three when the occasion suits.

[ClaretAL]

I have to agree a back 3 with the talent we have would be interesting to see, but as Stayingup states we would need another right back in the Trippier/Taylor mould

[ClaretTony]

Do you think Gibson should or should have been given a chance? Seem to be quickly putting down his credentials.

I think he's been very unlucky. Ben Mee had some very poor games in the first half of last season and a fit Gibson would have had a real chance of getting back in. Gibson returned to the bench after his surgery at Arsenal and then played against Everton, and the less we say about that the better. After that, Mee was in excellent form and it was right that he didn't get in during the remainder of the 2018/19 season.

This season, rightly, Mee was in from the start and Gibson's only game was v Sunderland when I thought he turned in the worst performance I've seen from a central defender all season. Kevin Long was carrying him that night. Then, another injury which has ruled him out again recently.

Always rated him at Middlesbrough, thought he was an excellent signing and I'm sure he'd have played more but for the injuries, definitely in the first half of last season and then he could well have established himself in the team. Mee has had a couple of dodgy games recently but generally his form has been good and you don't want to be switching your defenders too often.

So, overall, he's been unlucky, but he's had his injuries at the worst time.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Gibson would be great but unfortunately dyche sticks with what he has when it’s not working. Mee has played badly in quite a few games this season and made a lot of mistakes. Gibson is quicker than tarks and mee and would be a great parter for tarks in particular with the left foot right foot.

[ClaretTony]

Do we think Ben Gibson would have been injury free if he'd signed for a different club?

We all know that Ben Mee is as tough as the (Monty Python) Knight, "merely a scratch" when others might be saying "my leg's broken...."

Yes, I'd love us to play with a back three when the occasion suits.

We tried playing with a back three last season - nearly worked at Wembley with a back to the walls performance against Spurs with a three of Long, Tarkowski, Mee but there is no doubt that the Tarkowski, Mee, Gibson three didn't work at all.

[claretcarrot93]

I think he's been very unlucky. Ben Mee had some very poor games in the first half of last season and a fit Gibson would have had a real chance of getting back in. Gibson returned to the bench after his surgery at Arsenal and then played against Everton, and the less we say about that the better. After that, Mee was in excellent form and it was right that he didn't get in during the remainder of the 2018/19 season.

This season, rightly, Mee was in from the start and Gibson's only game was v Sunderland when I thought he turned in the worst performance I've seen from a central defender all season. Kevin Long was carrying him that night. Then, another injury which has ruled him out again recently.

Always rated him at Middlesbrough, thought he was an excellent signing and I'm sure he'd have played more but for the injuries, definitely in the first half of last season and then he could well have established himself in the team. Mee has had a couple of dodgy games recently but generally his form has been good and you don't want to be switching your defenders too often.

So, overall, he's been unlucky, but he's had his injuries at the worst time.

Fair assessment.

[ksrclaret]

Why was Ben Mee not dropped after the Everton game? Why was it that Gibson made way? There was nothing between them that afternoon, and Gibson even scored a goal.

Ben Mee had put in some utter stinkers and the Everton game was the latest of them. Okay you might say it was justified given our run after that game, but things could have been so different for Gibson had Mee been the one to drop out back then. A decision which Ben Mee could have no complaints about

[Paul Waine]

We tried playing with a back three last season - nearly worked at Wembley with a back to the walls performance against Spurs with a three of Long, Tarkowski, Mee but there is no doubt that the Tarkowski, Mee, Gibson three didn't work at all.

I nearly posted that I'd also have Kevin Long in the "Tyrone Mings" role.

[ClaretTony]

Why was Ben Mee not dropped after the Everton game? Why was it that Gibson made way? There was nothing between them that afternoon, and Gibson even scored a goal.

Ben Mee had put in some utter stinkers and the Everton game was the latest of them. Okay you might say it was justified given our run after that game, but things could have been so different for Gibson had Mee been the one to drop out back then. A decision which Ben Mee could have no complaints about

Gibson made way long before the end and his inclusion had forced Mee into a different position. The correct decision was made to stick with Mee after that game.

[ksrclaret]

Gibson made way long before the end and his inclusion had forced Mee into a different position. The correct decision was made to stick with Mee after that game.

But why was it Gibson made way, and not Mee long before the end of the game? Ben Mee could have had no complaints about being removed from the field of play, given his performance in that game and in other games previously.

I understand it turned out to be the correct decision given our run after that game, but how different things could have been for Gibson at Burnley if the decision was the other way around. It must surely have been a close one.

[ClaretTony]

But why was it Gibson made way, and not Mee long before the end of the game? Ben Mee could have had no complaints about being removed from the field of play, given his performance in that game and in other games previously.

I understand it turned out to be the correct decision given our run after that game, but how different things could have been for Gibson at Burnley if the decision was the other way around. It must surely have been a close one.

They were both bad but I think, on the day, that Tarkowski was the worst of the three although we'd have been inbalanced had he come off. Having said that, it would be nit picking to pick one ahead of the other on that day.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Won’t be in the squad tomorrow.

[ksrclaret]

They were both bad but I think, on the day, that Tarkowski was the worst of the three although we'd have been inbalanced had he come off. Having said that, it would be nit picking to pick one ahead of the other on that day.

Yes I agree there was nothing between them. So the decision to remove one over the other must have been a very close one indeed. I'm just wondering how different Gibson's career could have been with us had that very close decision gone in his favour. We'll never know now, which is a shame because that was his only real chance to get in the side.

[ClaretTony]

Yes I agree there was nothing between them. So the decision to remove one over the other must have been a very close one indeed. I'm just wondering how different Gibson's career could have been with us had that very close decision gone in his favour. We'll never know now, which is a shame because that was his only real chance to get in the side.

How different it might have been had he been fit too - and by the way, he's unavailable tomorrow due to injury.

[jrgbfc]

Maybe a move is lined up for him this month?

[ksrclaret]

How different it might have been had he been fit too - and by the way, he's unavailable tomorrow due to injury.

Sometimes it just doesn't work out for a player at a club. Best that he moves on as soon as he can, for his own sake.

[JohnMac]

Whatever people think of him he hasn't pulled up any trees in a Claret and Blue shirt when given the opportunuty.

It isn't always Dyche, sometimes the players aren't good enough or fit enough to displace others.

[ClaretTony]

Whatever people think of him he hasn't pulled up any trees in a Claret and Blue shirt when given the opportunuty.

It isn't always Dyche, sometimes the players aren't good enough or fit enough to displace others.

That is very much the case. As I said in a previous post, I was delighted when we signed him but when he has played, and I know it is difficult when you only get occasional games, he's looked poor.

[Burnley1989]

That is very much the case. As I said in a previous post, I was delighted when we signed him but when he has played, and I know it is difficult when you only get occasional games, he's looked poor.

Has been my opinion as well to be fair

[claretblue]

Whatever people think of him he hasn't pulled up any trees in a Claret and Blue shirt when given the opportunity.

It isn't always Dyche, sometimes the players aren't good enough or fit enough to displace others.

Villa trialed 3 at the back for 2 days in training last week that worked well for them at Turf Moor.

I'd like to think that we have at least practiced this formation with Tark, Mee + Gibson should the need ever arise!

[ClaretTony]

Villa trialed 3 at the back for 2 days in training last week that worked well for them at Turf Moor.

I'd like to think that we have at least practiced this formation with Tark, Mee + Gibson should the need ever arise!

We did - against Everton and in any case Gibson is unfit.