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martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:23 pm

Graham Taylor dies at 72.

RIP

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:24 pm

Wow. Didn't see that one coming

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:25 pm

Sad news. I remember him getting the guard of honour at Turf Moor when he retired. He became Aston Villa manager not long after that. Football was in his blood obviously.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:27 pm

Sad news. Not the greatest manager but was a decent bloke.

RIP Graham

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:30 pm

Remember going to school with a girl who swore he was her uncle, although not sure if it was true.

RIP Graham

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:30 pm

I assumed the thread title meant it was something to do with Graham Taylor - wasn't expecting that news.

9thMay1987 · Post by **9thMay1987** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:32 pm

Holland v England and the German ref.

A Dutchman who was at the game told me there was no way England would get a result.

Germany did not want the English hordes in their country at any price.

RIP.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:32 pm

awfully sad, a real character

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:34 pm

Respected manager that did a lot for the game had his flack at times but i suppose everyone does at some point sad loss RIP Graham

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:35 pm

9thMay1987 wrote:Holland v England and the German ref.

And the cheating Ronald Koeman

Guitargeorge · Post by **Guitargeorge** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:35 pm

He was a genuine human being, much maligned by the press during his time in charge of England. He worked wonders for Watford. RIP Graham

Sausage · Post by **Sausage** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:37 pm

Sad news. Seemed like a genuinely decent guy and always had a smile on his face.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:39 pm

The former England manager has passed away aged 72. RIP.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:39 pm

Wow that's a shock. Used to enjoy his commentary and comments on R5 RIP Graham.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:40 pm

The partnership that changed Watford

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:40 pm

Didn't see the other thread - feel free to close.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:41 pm

obviously he was a very good manager but i always liked listening to him on 5Live, one of the most knowledgeable and sensible pundits there was.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:41 pm

72 is nothing these days. Don't recall reports of him having been ill.

RIP

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:43 pm

The thread title is the first thing that came to mind when someone told me about 15 minutes ago. R.I.P.

I see 2017 is making an effort to top 2016.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:48 pm

I hope the OP doesn't mind this..Professor Anthony King [82] has also died..[most people will recognise him from Election Nights.}..a real expert in his field...RIP.

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blackburnturfite · Post by **blackburnturfite** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:51 pm

I remember Graham Taylor as the Watford team arrived at the Turf seasons ago,the Watford supporters all waiting to welcome their arrival, he signed every autograph, shook hands with the supporters, and even on first name terms with some,a wide smile on his face, and i for one always remembered that, he came across as a genuine Man. who had a few set-backs in Management which have been well Publicised. But that day always stuck in my mind, he did,nt really deserve all the treatment he received in my eyes, from Supporters and Journalists, but thats Football, and sometimes things need putting in perspective R.I.P. Mr Taylor!!!

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:02 pm

Agree he was good on the radio, clearly loved footy and seemed a very decent guy too.

That documentary was brilliant.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:03 pm

9thMay1987 wrote:Holland v England and the German ref.

A Dutchman who was at the game told me there was no way England would get a result.

Germany did not want the English hordes in their country at any price.

RIP.

Why would the English be going to Germany if they quaified for the World Cup in the USA?

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:05 pm

9thMay1987 wrote:Holland v England and the German ref.

A Dutchman who was at the game told me there was no way England would get a result.

Germany did not want the English hordes in their country at any price.

RIP.

RIP Graham Taylor, A true football man.

Don't quite understand that comment 9th May1987. The game with Holland Taylor and the German Ref was to qualify for 1994 World Cup in the USA..

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:09 pm

Sad news and as above always came across well on the radio.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:12 pm

Always seemed like a great person, and one who'd racked up some proper achievements in his career. Thankfully we got a good opportunity to pay tribute to him with that Watford game, there was a really good send-off for him from all 4 stands,

As others have already said, he was really good on the radio too. Sad day.

CrispyClaret · Post by **CrispyClaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:12 pm

Very sad, heart attack according to BBC. Wasn't his last game in charge of Watford at Turf Moor?

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:17 pm

Walton wrote:Always seemed like a great person, and one who'd racked up some proper achievements in his career. Thankfully we got a good opportunity to pay tribute to him with that Watford game, there was a really good send-off for him from all 4 stands,

As others have already said, he was really good on the radio too. Sad day.

Agree with all of this

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:23 pm

Sad news
RIP

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:34 pm

That is sad news. Always interesting listening to him either on TV or the radio. Certainly a true footballing man. RIP Graham.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:41 pm

A great manager for Watford.RIP

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:46 pm

Four Four Two did an 'Ask A Silly Question' feature with him in 2009. His answers were pretty good:

Morning, Graham. We’ve been interviewing a lot of Grahams lately. Why are there so many in football?
Because we’re great. And I’m the best Graham – you’ve got to be confident in yourself! You’re only a proper Graham, by the way, if you spell it with an ‘h’ – the English style. I’ve got nothing against the Scots, I love them, but a Scottish Graeme – like Souness – is not a proper Graham.

Barry Fry rates you as the second-best swearer in football after himself, but says: “He can’t swear now he’s a journalist”. Is this true?
[Chuckling] For the last six years I haven’t sworn very much. But I can’t see how anybody could possibly touch Barry at swearing – he’s the master.

Why do football folk cuss so much though, Graham? Surely it’s unnecessary.
Put it this way: if I’ve got Vinnie Jones in my side, and at half-time we’re 1-0 down and playing badly, do I say to Vinnie: “Excuse me Vincent, would you mind trying to get closer to their midfield, please?” Or do I say: “Vinnie, for f***’s sake, sort yourself f***ing out and get f***ing tighter”?

Do you have any weird dreams?
I dream a lot about Scunthorpe United – the only team I’ve supported. I’m the manager, we’re in the Premier League, and beating Barcelona in the Champions League final. It’s great.

What have you got on the wallpaper of your mobile phone?
I’ve just changed it from a big daffodil to a picture of a red and yellow bowl with grass coming out of it. Very pretty. I change it every couple of months, for a bit of variety.

And finally, what’s your favourite swimming stroke?
Breaststroke… but not necessarily for swimming [chuckles].

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:00 pm

Walton wrote:Always seemed like a great person, and one who'd racked up some proper achievements in his career. Thankfully we got a good opportunity to pay tribute to him with that Watford game, there was a really good send-off for him from all 4 stands

Sadly not the case. As he applauded the Watford fans, Burnley fans were on the pitch spitting at him. It was very distasteful and was certainly no reflection on Taylor.

Always came across as a really good bloke to me.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:31 pm

Just read, which I hadn't realised, that Taylor was the Watford chairman who appointed Sean Dyche as manager.

LINK to SD comment
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... aylor-loss

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:31 pm

Yes, remember that game.

Didn't Stan present him with some sort of trophy or memento?

Great football character. RIP.

claretfern · Post by **claretfern** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:36 pm

'England - An impossible job' Great documentary.
Just read Lawrie McMenemy's autobiography. he said Taylor never told him or the coaching staff that he agreed to do that documentary. Lawrie Mac said to him, once they found out "are you sure this is wise?"....Taylor replied "my decision"
As time has moved on, I think he's remembered fondly with regard to the documentary.
....it probably still is 'an impossible job' !
RIP Graham.

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:46 pm

RIP Graham Taylor. A highly respected man within the game. An early post #4 stated "not the greatest manager". For a guy who came from a modest footballing background, he well overachieved and his CV looks very impressive. He was a brilliant communicator and always seemed a very likeable guy.
I only recall him being a manager of 3 football clubs and of course England.
Pity he agreed to the documentary which with some cruel editing painted him as a bit of a fool. If he had have been he would never have achieved what he did.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Sadly not the case. As he applauded the Watford fans, Burnley fans were on the pitch spitting at him. It was very distasteful and was certainly no reflection on Taylor.

Always came across as a really good bloke to me.

i think walton meant when he came out before the game, he got an excellent reception.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:45 pm

I remember him getting a very warm welcome that time, don't know what happened afterwards.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:56 pm

Top man.

Heard his "what makes us human" essay and interview on the Jeremy vine show on radio 2. Came across as a wonderful human being.

RIP Mr Taylor.

cricketfield73 · Post by **cricketfield73** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:47 pm

Wow. I'm saddened by this news.
Just saw the thread title and opened it expecting it to be Graham Taylor related, but not this.
As is being said right through the thread, he always came across as a thoroughly nice man.
RIP Graham Taylor.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:02 pm

R.I.P.

Remember he was ridiculed a bit for the game against Holland, but still has an impressive CV as manager

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:24 pm

RIP Graham Taylor.

Nobody deserved the treatment he received from the gutter press.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:22 pm

Great shock. Elton John's tribute said it all. Like a brother - his wisdom and genius made Watford the club it is today.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:30 pm

Graham Taylor is reported to have died today from a heart attack.

Sincerely offering my condolences for his family and friends.

RIP

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:32 pm

Nice post and intention, but there's already a long thread on this topic Paul.
"Do I not like that"

ALP · Post by **ALP** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:36 pm

a very big shock when I picked this news up, he was a really sensible and honest bloke who told it the way it was.

Rest in Peace

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:37 pm

I also remember being at his final ever game as a manager as it was the last game of the season at The Turf. Not certain which season though. We gave him a guard of honour I think and everyone joined in the applause. Sad to read that it wasn't so friendly afterwards on the pitch. That's a real shame.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:38 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Nice post and intention, but there's already a long thread on this topic Paul.
"Do I not like that"

Thanks, nil.

I looked for some time - I realise I don't always "get the hang" of these "cryptic" subjects.... I should have guessed.

OK - moving over.

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:39 pm

Lovely eulogy from Sean Dyche just before 8:30 on 5 Live.