ARTICLE: The Brady link

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:27 am

Burnley favourites with the bookies.
Which of course could be down to a lot of excited Burnley fans.
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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:29 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Burnley favourites with the bookies.
Which of course could be down to a lot of excited Burnley fans.
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Palace favourites with Brady though according to the contact in Ireland.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by colne-claret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:37 am

ClaretTony wrote:Palace favourites with Brady though according to the contact in Ireland.
I can't see why they would spend the money on him when they already have Zaha, Townsend, Schluup & Puncheon. You never know though.

I'm sure that Jason O'Connor said yesterday that we were looking like favourites.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:50 am

If he wants to be playing in the Premier league for more than three months then we are clearly top of the list. Palace look like they can't restrict teams to 1 goal never mind keep a clean sheet and Leicester haven't dug out of the mire just yet either - which I'd be worried about if I were a leicester fan because I'm sure their side were expecting to be comfortable and might not be ready for a relegation scrap

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:54 am

Interesting one, Palace. Clearly more likely to go down than us, despite the Big Sam effect.

I would expect it is a factor for Brady that he's already been relegated twice in 2 years, and to make it a hat trick would begin to look like a trend with common factor.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by ashtonlongsider » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:07 pm

Would he improve us? Personally I'm not so sure from what I've seen. Good luck Palace.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Zom Zom » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:16 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:Would he improve us? Personally I'm not so sure from what I've seen. Good luck Palace.
I'm sure he would improve us. Without intending to down talk current players, I don't think we would be seeing a clamour of PL sides wanting to sign Scotty or Boyd. Brady has more in his locker. Don't get me wrong, I will not criticise any player, but improving any side is progression as is the nature of the beast.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Firthy » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:10 pm

While I do think with the addition of Barton we'll manage to stay up we do need a couple of players with pace or flair who can change a game. We are a little bit too one dimensional at present and will continue to grind out results so Brady and one more would give us that bit extra we are currently lacking.

Still hopeful the irish connection will swing this one in our favour.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:42 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:Would he improve us? Personally I'm not so sure from what I've seen. Good luck Palace.
Without any question he would improve us.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:55 pm

for starters it would mean not rolling the ball to Boyd for a pointless blast at free-kicks ! That alone would be an improvement :)

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by CFS » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:20 pm

Burnley struggling with his £60k a week wage demands from what iv heard.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:21 pm

CFS wrote:Burnley struggling with his £60k a week wage demands from what iv heard.
I should think so, ridiculous if true!

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Post by Eagle Claret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:27 pm

Isn't that about treble the wages most of our players are on. Crazy money.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Firthy » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:29 pm

CFS wrote:Burnley struggling with his £60k a week wage demands from what iv heard.
Won't be coming here then. Palace are welcome to him. If true we don't need greedy players at our club.
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Post by Spijed » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:29 pm

Surely Burnley would have known his wage demands before putting a bid in, so it's obviously something we can overcome.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:32 pm

Palace are about to sign Schlupp, for their left side but Townsend is rumoured to be returning to Mags.
Unless they want one for LB it would seem strange to sign both.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by BennyD » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:33 pm

We don't need assistants on £60k+ we have what it takes already. Either he comes for what he might realise from his potential or he can. We don't need freeloaders or journeymen.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:34 pm

minnieclaret wrote:Palace are about to sign Schlupp
They are not - they signed him last week
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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:34 pm

All of these figures are pure speculation. Defour turned down a move to the Middle East to come here.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by CFS » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:36 pm

Spijed wrote:Surely Burnley would have known his wage demands before putting a bid in, so it's obviously something we can overcome.
Don't know if all this what I've been told is true but been told agent trying to push for highest possible deal for him but if its coming to that I'm more than happy to move on from him. Were not at a stage to be paying that yet.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:36 pm

CFS wrote:Burnley struggling with his £60k a week wage demands from what iv heard.
And just where did you hear that?

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by CFS » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:37 pm

BennyD wrote:We don't need assistants on £60k+ we have what it takes already. Either he comes for what he might realise from his potential or he can. We don't need freeloaders or journeymen.
Agent insisting its not about potential they want the wages to match the fee.

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Post by CFS » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:39 pm

dermotdermot wrote:And just where did you hear that?
You want my DOB with that?

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:40 pm

Not really.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Culmclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:43 pm

Move on in that case. The wage structure is as important to the club as the 'framework' is to the team. If we stay up then we will need to reassess what we need to do to establish ourselves more long term, but I don't think Brady would be the difference between staying up and going down this season and so it would not be worth deviating from a policy which has so far served us well.
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Post by Firthy » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:45 pm

CFS wrote:Agent insisting its not about potential they want the wages to match the fee.
Don't players have minds of their own and can tell their agents "I'm happy with £2m a year, I want to play football every week"

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Man of Kent » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:46 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
I would love Brady to sign as he would be a perfect player for us, but if he does I will walk up the steps to my seat in the Bob lord stand at our next match waving my chopper in the air.
Your helicopter? Your woodcutting axe? Or your third leg?! We'll be expecting you to deliver if he signs..... :lol:

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by taio » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:48 pm

If he ends up going for around £13m it seems reasonable to expect £50k a week, which has been the figure quoted in the media

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:54 pm

So just what do others get, i.e. Barton, Gray, Hendrick, Defour, etc.?
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Post by Reecey1987 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:54 pm

I cant see him being on that much money 35 k tops

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:04 pm

I love how a random poster comes on saying ''I have heard this'' and everyone believes it. You gullible lot....

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Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:18 pm

That's pretty much what message boards survive on...

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:I love how a random poster comes on saying ''I have heard this'' and everyone believes it. You gullible lot....
Funny really, because very few posters are actually saying they believe it :D

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:I love how a random poster comes on saying ''I have heard this'' and everyone believes it. You gullible lot....
Funny really, because very few posters are actually saying they believe it :D

Don't know why it's come up twice :o

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:06 pm

First of all it's not unlikely that Brady, based on a potential fee of £13million, will anticipate a wage of £50k per week. Like it or not there's a direct correlation between transfer fee and wage (particularly in the head of an agent) and this is where our problem lies.

Since our first promotion the club have slowly but surely increased PL wages from a ceiling of £15k per week in '09/'10 to £28k per week currently, although there a few exceptional cases this season. In '14/'15 the cap was set at £22k and based on that the annual Wage bill was £29.4million, so a projection for this year will see that figure rise to say £38million which will be less than 50% that of the next lowest in the PL.

So whilst we conducted our affairs correctly, built around small steps, it's left us in a real disadvantageous position compared to others who are competing in the same market. For me, our best hope now with the likes of Brady, is that he considers our present league position and concludes that he is more likely to be playing in the PL next season with Burnley than say Palace or Hull where he undoubtedly would earn more money right now than at Turf Moor.

Only he, and his agent, can decide on which move is preferable in the longer term.
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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:15 pm

Give him a generous 'survival' bonus and Joey can lay it off for him at 7-1.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by CnBtruntru » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:15 pm

If he does want 50 or 60,000 a week good luck with that, plenty more fish out there in the sea.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:15 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:First of all it's not unlikely that Brady, based on a potential fee of £13million, will anticipate a wage of £50k per week. Like it or not there's a direct correlation between transfer fee and wage (particularly in the head of an agent) and this is where our problem lies.

Since our first promotion the club have slowly but surely increased PL wages form a ceiling of £15k per week in '09/'10 to £28k per week currently, although there a few exceptional cases this seson. In '14/'15 the cap was set at £22k and based on that the annual Wage bill was £29.4million, so a projection for this year will see that figure rise to say £38million which will be less than 50% that of the next lowest in the PL.

So whilst we conducted our affairs correctly, built around small steps, it's left us in a real disadvantageous position compared to others who are competing in the same market. For me, our best hope now with the likes of Brady, is that he considers our present league position and concludes that he is more likely to be playing in the PL next season with Burnley than say Palace or Hull where he undoubtedly would earn more money right now than at Turf Moor.

Only he, and his agent, can decide on which move is preferable in the longer term.
Can we not just offer him a bigger signing on fee?

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Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:18 pm

Whilst Brady is better than what we have, there's no way he's sufficiently better to warrant double the wage of our next highest earner.

A shame if it's true, because I can't see us reaching a deal and he could have done real well with us.

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Post by KRBFC » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:25 pm

New just in.... KRBFC confirms Brady will be joining Tuesday, heard from a reliable source.
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Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:26 pm

Whilst I broadly agree with Royboy, I am not sure i agree that in the current market, 10-13 million transfer fees necessarily correlate to 50-60k a week wages. Leaving aside the fact the market wage would be whatever is the highest any of his suitors is willing to offer, we paid a headline of 10 million for Hendrick, and he's clearly on less than 30k a week.

Will be interesting to see what happens. Certainly, 30k remains a sensible but reasonable ceiling for us for now.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by CFS » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:I love how a random poster comes on saying ''I have heard this'' and everyone believes it. You gullible lot....
Firstly not a random poster. I'm a daily reader and post as and when. Secondly if iv heard something lord knows if its true doesn't mean i can't share it some people might want to hear it. Just putting out there what I heard never once said this is all factual.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Royboyclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:29 pm

The signing-on fee is one way round the problem but, as I say, there are exceptions to the rule this year and at least three are earning more than the others with an unsigned contract on the table for a player at £35k per week.

But a leap then to £50k per week for a new player may do more damage to the overall morale in the dressing room than any advantage that he brings to the team.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:30 pm

CFS wrote:Firstly not a random poster. I'm a daily reader and post as and when. Secondly if iv heard something lord knows if its true doesn't mean i can't share it some people might want to hear it. Just putting out there what I heard never once said this is all factual.
Oh, so you're a KRBFC fan then, nice to meet you. Do you want a signed photo?

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Post by bfcmartin » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:55 pm

Just because someone costs £13 million why does that mean he should be getting £50,000 a week, Ibrahimovic cost nowt but doubt he plays for nowt. Anyway I've heard from a good source within the club that Brady is not money motivated and just wants to play

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Sidney1st » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:00 pm

Has anyone asked Pushin's neighbour?
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Post by taio » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:16 pm

bfcmartin wrote:Just because someone costs £13 million why does that mean he should be getting £50,000 a week, Ibrahimovic cost nowt but doubt he plays for nowt. Anyway I've heard from a good source within the club that Brady is not money motivated and just wants to play
I just knew someone would pointlessly refer to free transfers in the context of wage correlation. There is of course often (not always - such as free transfers) a relationship between fee paid and wages and, as has been suggested, £13m fee and £50k a week does seem there or thereabouts to me. It undoubtedly presents the club with a challenge in the transfer market which is worth remembering during transfer window periods.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:46 pm

At these kind of wage figures I'd prefer we looked elsewhere like overseas where's neons is hungry for a chance.

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Re: ARTICLE: The Brady link

Post by BennyD » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:48 pm

KRBFC wrote:I love how a random poster comes on saying ''I have heard this'' and everyone believes it. You gullible lot....
Nobody believes what you post, even though you are a random poster. (Btw, the number of posts don't count because you always post bolloxs).

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Post by Hapag Lloyd » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:49 pm

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Can I have one, I can meet you before the Sunderland game.

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