robert snodgrass

Longtimeclaret · Post by **Longtimeclaret** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:26 pm

100percentclaret wrote:Typical Boden article. He says "reportedly" not anything along the lines of "my sources indicate". He's read it on MailOnline and then put a bit of an article together. Tremendous work

Yes,"Scoop " always goes the extra yard
I wouldn't call it lazy journalism m he is just inept

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:40 pm

has this boden bloke ever been right ?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:45 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:has this boden bloke ever been right ?

No, his only news is off here or from dodgy contacts who write articles in crap newspapers like the Sun. Boden puts together articles based on guesswork and nonsense then when something official happens he reports it after everyone else and acts like he knew all along. The official site reports transfer news before Boden, says it all.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:46 pm

100percentclaret wrote:Typical Boden article. He says "reportedly" not anything along the lines of "my sources indicate". He's read it on MailOnline and then put a bit of an article together. Tremendous work

Errr. He tweeted at 17:07 today.

"Reports of a Burnley offer for Robert Snodgrass are on the ball, up to Hull City now whether they are tempted to sell"

Doesn't seem on the fence or evasive to me. Like him or not he does have club contacts. The club are never going to comment on it directly, that's what the local press are for. Bury the hatchet.

100percentclaret · Post by **100percentclaret** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:53 pm

Steddyman wrote:Errr. He tweeted at 17:07 today.

"Reports of a Burnley offer for Robert Snodgrass are on the ball, up to Hull City now whether they are tempted to sell"

Doesn't seem on the fence or evasive to me. Like him or not he does have club contacts. The club are never going to comment on it directly, that's what the local press are for. Bury the hatchet.

I referred to the "article". I don't follow him on twitter as he's not worth following.

I'm sure he does get inside info but he never enlightens the readers with it. He's too comfortable at the BE and is scared of upsetting folk at the club.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:54 pm

Chris Boden is a nice guy and i think he's a good football journalist. Not sure why he seems to provoke so much anger on here from some people

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:55 pm

My mate knows someone who works at SkyBet and he said Burnley are nigh on impossible to find anything out about transfer wise. So not surprised Boden may not always be correct as I presume he can only go off sources from other ends

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:59 pm

Surely we would have sounded out whether he was interested in coming before we bid. Agents though play one club off against another to line their pockets. The sooner they are removed from the game or players have to pay them instead of clubs the better IMO.

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:59 pm

100percentclaret wrote:I referred to the "article". I don't follow him on twitter as he's not worth following.

I'm sure he does get inside info but he never enlightens the readers with it. He's too comfortable at the BE and is scared of upsetting folk at the club.

So you'd rather him post our transfer business all over the internet for other clubs to see? If he does have inside info then I'm glad he keeps it quiet and doesn't expose our dealings

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:02 pm

I know we, Boro are keeping a very close eye on Snodgrass, was reported a 7m bid was tabled last week. His agent works out of Yarm, Boro and Snodgrass has a house on a 1 year lease to Jordan Rhodes in Wynyard. Snodgrass is interested in a move to us but will Hull play ball.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:04 pm

I used to work with Chris many years ago but he was / is always very diligent football writer and an excellent match reporter.
The media world has changed immeasurably (particularly newspapers)...and the local newspapers no longer have the pride of place that they once did.
It makes it nigh on impossible to break stories, especially transfer ones.
The club are dogged and quite unscrupulous in their efforts to keep things in house. Sometimes for a good reason.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:04 pm

No offence, but just how many players is Gibson going to let you sign before he goes

"Are you sure you know what you are doing Aitor?"

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:13 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:No offence, but just how many players is Gibson going to let you sign before he goes

"Are you sure you know what you are doing Aitor?"

lol, Well Currently Nsue, Nugent, have left, Downing has been told he can leave, Rhodes expected to leave. De Sart has gone on loan to Derby, Mejeas has gone to Spain on loan. With De Pena and Husband also surplus to demands (neither has played all season and expected to leave).

2 have arrived already, expect Bojan to arrive and Karanka has said we are looking for wide players. Hence being linked with Deulofeu and Snodgrass. Deulofeu looks like going to AC Milan. Would at least expect a few more incomings,

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:19 pm

In other words he signed Negrado, Valdes and Fischer but they haven't done the job, so he's upgrading other positions after realising that a large chunk of the squad isn't good enough.

Downing - £70k a week will be hard to shift on to a club in the championship when he isn't that good.
Rhodes - they'll get their money back for him.

Issue now though will be getting the new lads to settle in and hope they can click with the lads from the summer and do enough to avoid relegation.

Dano1bfc · Post by **Dano1bfc** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:23 pm

Estonhills ... whilst Snodgrass may have property in your neck of the woods which I might add is tenanted by a a good championship striker in Rhodes (who u unbelievably will not sell for 10 million) would the likelihood of Premier League football and I suppose the lure of a premier league contract not tip the balance in our favour? You boys so far seem to be building a championship promotion side for next year in the signing of Bamford and holding onto the afore mentioned Rhodes?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:25 pm

We're far from safe to be fair. Just statistically more safe than Boro at this moment in time. 10 games of draws and losses for us and wins and draws for Boro would change things dramatically.

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:37 pm

Dano1bfc wrote:Estonhills ... whilst Snodgrass may have property in your neck of the woods which I might add is tenanted by a a good championship striker in Rhodes (who u unbelievably will not sell for 10 million) would the likelihood of Premier League football and I suppose the lure of a premier league contract not tip the balance in our favour? You boys so far seem to be building a championship promotion side for next year in the signing of Bamford and holding onto the afore mentioned Rhodes?

6m for Rhodes, then add ons to to make 10m. We have said a price, if no one matches it he will be loaned out for a loan fee and re-asses in the summer. We are far from safe but defensively sound, 4th least amount of goals conceded. If we can add creative wide players in the snodgrass mould. Then I think we will be fine. I would expect Snodgrass would go to the most money to be fair. Its likely his last big contract or second last.

The gap is currently 6 points. IF we can beat West Ham at home sat, then I would expect it will be down to 3 points.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:42 pm

Gap between us and you?

I didn't even realise.

We've scored more then you, but conceded more too.
We've also got 8 wins and 2 draws, compared to 4 wins and 8 draws for you lot.

It is amusing to see us where we are compared to Boro, after all the grief there was on FB and still is to a degree.

Dano1bfc · Post by **Dano1bfc** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:47 pm

Fair point C&J and Estonhills . To be fair we could be dragged into it but the possibility of us actually being so decreases with each home win. Whilst the signing of Snodgrass , Brady or Gradel would obviously be nice I think the immediate impact of such a player would be minimal and Dyche would still start Arfield or Boyd . Dyche starts players he trusts and while they're doing the business they will start which builds player morale and trust , ideal when scrapping to stop up. I personally think we are scoring more than enough goals to stay away from the bottom 3 and the addition of Stephens from Brighton would be more key (unlikely) as he would add more muscle and bite to our midfield and thrrefore cement our place in the top division .

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:53 pm

i think snodgrass would be an immediate success.

Dano1bfc · Post by **Dano1bfc** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:57 pm

I thought the same about Tarks but history seems to suggest Dyche has a ...if it's not broken don't fix it mentality in my view ? It's served us fantastically well and I wouldn't change it for the world

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:01 am

Sidney1st wrote:Gap between us and you?

I didn't even realise.

We've scored more then you, but conceded more too.
We've also got 8 wins and 2 draws, compared to 4 wins and 8 draws for you lot.

It is amusing to see us where we are compared to Boro, after all the grief there was on FB and still is to a degree.

Amazing Facebook! I think we will just worry about ourselves. This is our first time back in this league 7 seasons out of it. Our aim is staying up, not worrying where Burnley are. We have a solid base to start from in defence. As I say if we can add attacking midfield players, to create more chances I think we will be fine. Then we can look at adding to the team further next season and progressing.

Your home form is amazing, what is it 3rd best in the league, well done. I don't think anyone could of seen that. Can you keep it up for the whole season? I think you will pick up enough points to stay up on home form alone.

Dano1bfc · Post by **Dano1bfc** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:04 am

Agreed Estonhills and after watching Sunderland 3x I would say they're nailed on , Swansea appointed Clement (enough said) and if Snodgrass leaves Hull then it would appear to be game over .

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:18 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:Chris Boden is a nice guy and i think he's a good football journalist. Not sure why he seems to provoke so much anger on here from some people

It's because of the slavering mental folk who have to know everything that is going on.

Boden could bullshit us like the rest of them, but he just does his job.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:31 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:It's because of the slavering mental folk who have to know everything that is going on.

Boden could bullshit us like the rest of them, but he just does his job.

I think this is a fair enough comment about CB to be fair. I have previously been critical of him, but he's not in a great position in all honesty. The club are notoriously difficult to get information out of (which is quite right IMO), even if he does have a source, he wouldnt want to compromise that source or relationship by blurting an early story out of a possible transfer. It's clearly a very competitive market out there, and he's only trying to do his job.

I would imagine it would be quite easy for the club to work out who his source is if there was a leak, as circle of trust appears very small at BFC. Again this is a good thing in my view. If a deal is going to happen then it will.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:48 am

The media team at Burnley (Bentley) doesn't get to know anything until it has happened.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:57 am

Boro are favourites for him if all is to be believed, they will no doubt spunk a shed load of cash his way which is their prerogative. I'm amazed Gibson has stuck with Karanka though, always wants to sign 100 players every transfer window - spanish version of Neil Warnock

Melbourneclaret · Post by **Melbourneclaret** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:33 am

Vegas Claret wrote:spanish version of Neil Warnock

Very true

Claretto · Post by **Claretto** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:32 am

With only 7 home games remaining and a very tough run coming up, we are far from safe and could easily finish below Boro. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. One game at a time and all that...

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:55 am

I think the green eyed monster still lurks among too many of our own fans because other clubs can sign players to supplement their squads and not just the first team.

Bamford to Boro is a good move and I wish him well. Snodgrass to Burnley may seem like a good move but I have still to forgive him for his late goals for Leeds and Hull at the Turf

100percentclaret · Post by **100percentclaret** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:01 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:Chris Boden is a nice guy and i think he's a good football journalist. Not sure why he seems to provoke so much anger on here from some people

Anger ??? Yes he gets some stick on here but no anger. What annoys me is that I have to read other local papers online to get the inside track on transfer dealings etc. I've not a problem with his reporting, it's what he doesn't report I've got a problem with.

Malton_Claret · Post by **Malton_Claret** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:45 am

Should we manage to get Snodgrass, what will our team look like and what would the tactics be, how much would it change from present? would there be less long ball and play more on the ground and would we still play 442? it will be interesting.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:51 am

Hull need the brass for when they go.down to rebuild. Hel leave now or summer either way

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:07 am

Malton_Claret wrote:Should we manage to get Snodgrass, what will our team look like and what would the tactics be, how much would it change from present? would there be less long ball and play more on the ground and would we still play 442? it will be interesting.

Surely would fit straight into current system as it is. Would be an upgrade on all of our wide options and gives us a set piece specialist which would come in handy too

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:14 am

Geoff wrote:Surely would fit straight into current system as it is. Would be an upgrade on all of our wide options and gives us a set piece specialist which would come in handy too

That's assuming he can get the ball off Joey!

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:35 am

Snodgrass would be an amazing signing for a couple of reasons.

1. He would improve our starting 11 as he's a clear upgrade on what we currently have.
2. His departure would weaken Hull significantly. They have Chelsea, United, Liverpool and Arsenal in their next 4 league games. Without Snodgrass where would they get that spark of quality from? Most of their goals come from him or through him.

Sleeping Cat · Post by **Sleeping Cat** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:19 pm

Worth signing Snodgrass just to ensure that he does't score against us. One of those players who always seems to.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:23 pm

I think JBG will be better than Snodgrass, JBG is 3 years younger. I want JBG to nail down that right hand side of our midfield with the left hand side up for grabs, Brady is a much better fit than Snodgrass.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:28 pm

Yeah, but JBG is seeming to be a bit injury prone.

The way I see it, Brady is an upgrade on Boyd, Snodgrass and upgrade on Arfield.

If I had to choose, I'd go for Snodgrass, as he is proven quality at this level

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:39 pm

Brady for me all day long, younger faster and more adaptable. Snodgrass won't work as hard as Brady for sure, dreamland if we could get both, however I think we all know it'll be one or the other.

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:47 pm

jlup1980 wrote:Snodgrass would be an amazing signing for a couple of reasons.

1. He would improve our starting 11 as he's a clear upgrade on what we currently have.
2. His departure would weaken Hull significantly. They have Chelsea, United, Liverpool and Arsenal in their next 4 league games. Without Snodgrass where would they get that spark of quality from? Most of their goals come from him or through him.

Really tough run of games for Hull from which they can expect little return. If they go on to lose all 4 or even pick up a couple of draws, I would say they are almost certainly down. From what we have seen of Sunderland I would say they are almost certainly down too. Highly likely that the current bottom 3 will go down.

Would be delighted to sign Snodgrass as he would certainly strengthen the team. I think we have enough about us to stay above the bottom 3, even more so with a couple of astute signings in this window.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:01 pm

Ric_C wrote:Yeah, but JBG is seeming to be a bit injury prone.

The way I see it, Brady is an upgrade on Boyd, Snodgrass and upgrade on Arfield.

If I had to choose, I'd go for Snodgrass, as he is proven quality at this level

But that would leave JBG on the bench when fit, I think he should be starting.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:03 pm

Would be fantastic if we landed both Snodgrass and Brady.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:11 pm

Brady maybe a long term replacement at left back.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:13 pm

May or may not be relevant to the Snodgrass situation, but Hull have agreed to sell Livermore to West Brom

ShabbaRanks · Post by **ShabbaRanks** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:41 pm

HendricksHair wrote:My mate knows someone who works at SkyBet and he said Burnley are nigh on impossible to find anything out about transfer wise. So not surprised Boden may not always be correct as I presume he can only go off sources from other ends

Bin Ont Turf wrote:The media team at Burnley (Bentley) doesn't get to know anything until it has happened.

I can tell you with 100% certainty that both of the statements are accurate.

Mentioning no names whatsoever but there are 1 or 2 on here that present their opinions in such a way that you might think they have connections or are "ITK" in some fashion.

I can tell you that is categorically not the case. Anything you may read from these folks are scraps for the pooch that are 2nd or 3rd hand whispers from people within the club who should know better.

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:11 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Boro are favourites for him if all is to be believed, they will no doubt spunk a shed load of cash his way which is their prerogative. I'm amazed Gibson has stuck with Karanka though, always wants to sign 100 players every transfer window - spanish version of Neil Warnock

We actually had a net spend less than Burnley in the Summer so I don't know how you work that out? He has said he wants to improve the team and squad which he has done every transfer window. Its called improving. He arrived and we were going down, almost bottom in Nov, finished mid table. Next season the play off final, Season after promotion. Hopefully stay up this year.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:15 pm

ShabbaRanks wrote:I can tell you with 100% certainty that both of the statements are accurate.

Mentioning no names whatsoever but there are 1 or 2 on here that present their opinions in such a way that you might think they have connections or are "ITK" in some fashion.

I can tell you that is categorically not the case. Anything you may read from these folks are scraps for the pooch that are 2nd or 3rd hand whispers from people within the club who should know better.

And where did you get this snippet of information from, Source, please?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:17 pm

Summer 2016 transfers

Middlesbrough In

Viktor Fischer (Ajax) Undisclosed
Bernardo Espinosa (Sporting Gijon) Undisclosed
Marten De Roon (Atalanta) Undisclosed
Jordan McGhee (Heart of Midlothian) Loan
Victor Valdes (Manchester United) Free
Antonio Barragan (Valencia) Undisclosed
Alvaro Negredo (Valencia) Loan
Gaston Ramirez (Southampton) Undisclosed
Brad Guzan (Aston Villa) Undisclosed
Fabio Da Silva (Cardiff City) Undisclosed
Calum Chambers (Arsenal) Loan
Adama Traore (Aston Villa) Undisclosed

Burnley In

Jimmy Dunne Free
Johann Berg Gudmundsson (Charlton Athletic) Undisclosed
Nick Pope (Charlton Athletic) Undisclosed
Jon Flanagan (Liverpool) Loan
Steven Defour (Anderlecht) Undisclosed
Partrick Bamford (Chelsea) Loan
Jeff Hendrick (Derby County) Undisclosed

We really spent more than you last summer? Is that right? Are you taking into account your weekly wages? Ours will be nowhere near yours.

I'm not disputing you, but these are our transfer dealings for Summer 2016.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:18 pm

I wold have thought Boro would be favourites to get him, he would be able to drive to work each day and not need to move home possibly, or maybe he fancies West Spam because it is London where all the hob nobs are.