Robbed

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:11 pm

Offside

Wasnt lookin at the player

Foot wasnt high

Tossers

tally · Post by **tally** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:11 pm

got done again

Clarettintedlense · Post by **Clarettintedlense** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:11 pm

Its not even that. He headed his foot.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:11 pm

Still be officiating next week...

wickdkewlclaret · Post by **wickdkewlclaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:12 pm

******* Cockney *****

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:12 pm

Rubbish. Clear pen. Who let him make the run around the back unmarked?

Claret82 · Post by **Claret82** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:12 pm

Unbelievable again!!!!

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:12 pm

Offside u tool

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:13 pm

Looked offside, but it was a foul.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:13 pm

Offside is questionable but their playey headed ball and Mee kicked his face so if not offside a clear pen

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:14 pm

Offside, never a penalty but apart from that they got it right.

wickdkewlclaret · Post by **wickdkewlclaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:14 pm

There's nothing questionable about the handball, you blind?

Arnold Bashley · Post by **Arnold Bashley** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:14 pm

Was penalty but offside was first and Koscienlys head was too low

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:14 pm

100% offside - easy call too
100% penalty as it wasn't given, can't blame Mee though he didn't even know he was there

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:15 pm

There's nothing questionable about the offside!

UTC!

Big_Ears_BFC · Post by **Big_Ears_BFC** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:15 pm

Was a penalty, but flag should of been up for offside.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:15 pm

Same as at home. Mark your men and we're not even having this debate.

Really disappointing

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:16 pm

Clear penalty, definite foul but was definitely offside.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:16 pm

Fair point Winston. But he's a yard off.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:16 pm

Hope Arsenal are nowhere near the title as cheated their way to at least 4 points.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:16 pm

Lino bottled it. Waa getting ear bashing all game after the red.
Missed the offside, then gave the pen.

Still be officiating next week though...

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Officials no longer capable of doing the job, any of them.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Blackrod wrote:Hope Arsenal are nowhere near the title as cheated their way to at least 4 points.

How did they cheat?
It wasn't the Arsenal players fault he wasn't given offside.
They should have had a penalty earlier in the game IMO, when Gray tripped the Arsenal man.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:18 pm

It's irrelevant where Koskienlny's head was, because the penalty wasn't given for dangerous play. It was given for the kick or alleged kick in the face. If that penalty is given for Burnley, I wouldn't argue.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:19 pm

Was offside when the ball was played but was a debatable pen. I thought it was as dubious as the red though so I'm not really complaining.

I thought the ref was quite fair, gave us a lot of freekicks in the oppositions half when normally we get penalised. Tough result to swallow though.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:20 pm

Done by two set pieces against Arsenal.

F***ing rubbish

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:21 pm

and let's be fair, Gray's tackle on Mustaphi was 100% a penalty and wasn't given. Is what it is, I'm more concerned about Marney

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:21 pm

Again 50 / 50's are always going to go with the big home club. It was offside and arguably soft but we cannot keep trying to hold on. If we'd have gone straight back at them after the kick off we'd have come away with a draw at least. But as usual away lack of belief in ourselves has cost us.

Beagleheart · Post by **Beagleheart** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:21 pm

Definitely a penalty. Very obvious offside. Says a lot that we are hugely disappointed about being robbed by a poor decision against Arsenal for the second time this season.

Onwards and upwards!

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:22 pm

Outrageous decision

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:25 pm

How was it a clear penalty? His foot wasn't high. The defender put his head there. Ben Mee, with all other defenders might as well retire because how was he supposed to defend that?

Clarettintedlense · Post by **Clarettintedlense** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:25 pm

dsr wrote:It's irrelevant where Koskienlny's head was, because the penalty wasn't given for dangerous play. It was given for the kick or alleged kick in the face. If that penalty is given for Burnley, I wouldn't argue.

Fair point. BUT hes headed his foot. Much like the penalties where the attacker leaves a trailing leg.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:26 pm

If that incident had been up the other end, we'd all have been frothing with rage
had it not been given, offside or not.

Clarettintedlense · Post by **Clarettintedlense** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:28 pm

it was up the other end we wouldnt have got it. Especially at one all in nintieth minute.

Wenger and Arsenals shenanigans caused confusion and commotion. We shouldve kept calm.

1HappyClaret · Post by **1HappyClaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:29 pm

Even if onside (which he wasn't) surely it was dangerous play and so an indirect free kick and not a penalty.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:30 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:and let's be fair, Gray's tackle on Mustaphi was 100% a penalty and wasn't given. Is what it is, I'm more concerned about Marney

I didn't think that was a penalty at all. Two players went towards the ball, both put their feet down side by side, the feet made contact with each other, both fell over. Does the fact that Mustaphi hit the floor first make it into "his" foul?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:31 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:If that incident had been up the other end, we'd all have been frothing with rage
had it not been given, offside or not.

But it's completely irrelevant because he's at least half a yard offside. Whether it was a foul or not shouldn't come into play because the ball should be dead.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:31 pm

1HappyClaret wrote:Even if onside (which he wasn't) surely it was dangerous play and so an indirect free kick and not a penalty.

Dangerous play is when you wave your feet in a dangerous poisition but don't make contact. If you kick someone, and it's deemed to be a foul, it's a direct free kick.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:31 pm

To have over 13 shots aganst arsenal away and at one point have had more than them on target and get nuthin is gutting

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:32 pm

Clarettintedlense wrote:it was up the other end we wouldnt have got it. Especially at one all in nintieth minute.

Give over. We did get one in the ninetieth+ minute, remember?

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:33 pm

4pts they've stolen off us this season.
Should only have been 2.

dushanbe · Post by **dushanbe** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:34 pm

1HappyClaret wrote:Even if onside (which he wasn't) surely it was dangerous play and so an indirect free kick and not a penalty.

Not if there is physical contact, which there certainly was.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:34 pm

martin_p wrote:But it's completely irrelevant because he's at least half a yard offside. Whether it was a foul or not shouldn't come into play because the ball should be dead.

But then you could say we should be defending the free kick better.

Rakes of our big men in the box and it goes o'er top. Just f'kin mark the men and defend it.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:36 pm

Clear pen against Gray, at least as clear as ours.
Linesman didn't bottle it, it was just a very tight decision he unfortunately got wrong.
We were not robbed, we got beaten by the better side.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:36 pm

Add totally before thread title and I would agree!

Clarettintedlense · Post by **Clarettintedlense** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:37 pm

dsr wrote:Give over. We did get one in the ninetieth+ minute, remember?

Ours was a blatant penalty. Theirs was debateable at best as evidenced in this thread.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:37 pm

martin_p wrote:But it's completely irrelevant because he's at least half a yard offside. Whether it was a foul or not shouldn't come into play because the ball should be dead.

That's not the point I'm making. I'm saying people on here (naturally enough)
would have been completely ignoring the offside debate and screaming for a peno.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:37 pm

willsclarets wrote:Clear pen against Gray, at least as clear as ours.
Linesman didn't bottle it, it was just a very tight decision he unfortunately got wrong.
We were not robbed, we got beaten by the better side.

It really wasn't that tight. And it's not as if the ball came from deep when you can sort of understand them missing it. Bread and butter decision really.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:40 pm

minnieclaret wrote:Rubbish. Clear pen. Who let him make the run around the back unmarked?

It was offside. Closest man to the linesman, who was in line with it.

Offside. That's it. Ball dead. Game over.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:40 pm

Not in slow motion, but koscielny was moving out to an onside position just as the ball was kicked. In less than 0.5 seconds in, real time, it might well have looked onside.