Marney injury

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:37 am

No one is saying he hasn't been an excellent servant of the club the epitome of the SD work ethic, but if he was really quite as good as people would have us believe we would be a more attacking side with better possession percentages. For me he hovers on the borderline between PremierLeague and Championship in quality, not having that something special which raises him into a sure-fire Premier League player. Yes he will be missed if the injury proves serious because he is at the heart of the SD team ethic and I'm sure his energy and enthusiasm is prized but at this level you do need midfielders who have a specialist skill and I'm not convinced DM does have.

Hapag Lloyd · Post by **Hapag Lloyd** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:48 am

ablueclaret wrote:No one is saying he hasn't been an excellent servant of the club the epitome of the SD work ethic, but if he was really quite as good as people would have us believe we would be a more attacking side with better possession percentages. For me he hovers on the borderline between PremierLeague and Championship in quality, not having that something special which raises him into a sure-fire Premier League player. Yes he will be missed if the injury proves serious because he is at the heart of the SD team ethic and I'm sure his energy and enthusiasm is prized but at this level you do need midfielders who have a specialist skill and from watching him on TV, I'm not convinced DM does have.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:45 pm

100percentclaret wrote:Kightly ???

I was wondering whether the one exception might have been Keane. Or was it Vokes? Or maybe Trippier?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:08 pm

ablueclaret wrote:... he is at the heart of the SD team ethic and I'm sure his energy and enthusiasm is prized but at this level you do need midfielders who have a specialist skill and I'm not convinced DM does have.

work ethic, energy and enthusiasm are specialist skills. Watching Sunderland two or three times lately should have convinced you of that.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:14 pm

dsr wrote:work ethic, energy and enthusiasm are specialist skills. Watching Sunderland two or three times lately should have convinced you of that.

And to add to that, pace and stamina are each a skill, or at least an attribute, that is priceless.

Marney is - as he actually showed with the run he made that resulted in him getting injured - both quick (I'd hazard a guess that of our starting XI, only Gray and Keane would beat him over 40 yards, with Hendrick and Boyd the only players who might push him) and has a fantastic engine. They are his biggest strengths, and they're easily underestimated.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:15 pm

marney has very particular set of skills, skills he's acquired over a very long career.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:58 pm

Without trawling though the whole thread, is there any confirmed news?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:05 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:Without trawling though the whole thread, is there any confirmed news?

Nope, only speculation from the forum experts

roamingclaret · Post by **roamingclaret** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:22 pm

Good luck Deano! A top player who has been sorely missed when not in the team!

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:27 pm

If Boyd is making our top 5 for pace then it is more apparent than I thought we require some faster players.

As incredible as his stamina is, he appears to run like he has concrete boots.

Inchysince93 · Post by **Inchysince93** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:14 pm

I think they will delay any news until we have a replacement in, would only increase any price knowing we're desperate.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:15 pm

They are not skills but attributes, skills are things like imperious distribution, the ability to turn defenders, the ability to outpace defenders, skill on the ball, the ability to read the game faster than others, pin-point passing, accurate shooting, masterful in the air, not sure DM has any of those at the outstanding level, he is a useful all-round sort of a players who generally won't let you down although his tackling always gives me the shivers along with his shooting.

holdyourfire · Post by **holdyourfire** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:36 pm

I dont think we would have been relegated,14/15 if deano,hadnt got injured against wba.

Yanquiclaret · Post by **Yanquiclaret** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:25 pm

Quite right Holdyourfire. The last time we were in this league we stopped scoring completely the day Dean was injured and went down because of it. Admittedly we are much stronger throughout the team than we were then,but this is still a very big blow to the club.

100percentclaret · Post by **100percentclaret** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:24 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:"LOL" as I believe they say.

41 appearances and 5 goals in our 13/14 promotion season. I'd class that as a successful loan signing. Obviously you were referring to Keane but Kightly more than played his part that season

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:24 pm

It's been a couple of days.

Is this bad news or a usual length of time to announce what it is?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:27 pm

starting_11 wrote:It's been a couple of days.

Is this bad news or a usual length of time to announce what it is?

Not really been looking at this thread, but in answer to this post, if he needs a scan it can be a good few days because they will need the swelling to go down first.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:29 pm

If Marney is likely to be out for a long time and it does appear to be so given as yet
no news from the club.
Assuming that his injury and related scans/medical would presumably have occurred by now
and the club would have a much clearer idea of the extent/nature of his injury then, unless it's a case of the club
delaying any announcement so it doesn't up the price of a potential replacement as Inchysince 93 also suggested in post 111.

We may still hear something from the club re. Marney tomorrow but if we haven't by say Thursday/Friday
then more than a few folk will be scratching their heads unless, of course, we've signed somebody by then.

The club likes to keep things close to it's chest, so to speak, and to an extent fans naturally start getting nervous
and worried about being short in key areas.

I certainly am beginning to get close to a tad worried.

However, I am sure that Dyche and club know that we need to get a few more in and that at least one of them, if not two
have to be players who will improve the starting 11 over our remaining games.
And that by doing so we will give ourselves more than a good chance of staying up.
And getting a few away wins on the books too.
And provide some cover for potential injuries /and or loss of players for any period of time.
It's not as if we'd be bankrupt if we spent 20m+

Two players who could do that, for me anyway, would be Snodgrass and Brady.
I'd put Snodgrass before Brady if I had the choice.
Snodgrass is a proven Premier League player who can both score goals
and create chances for others.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:32 pm

I doubt the club is trying to hide from potential sellers that Marney is injured. He was stretchered off, on live TV, after his knee clearly twisted - I think potential selling clubs will have noticed.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:11 pm

At least he scored his wonder goal this season!

Working_Class_Zero · Post by **Working_Class_Zero** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:05 pm

Be a big miss.
Hope it's not as bad as it seems.
Or this guy will have something to answer to.
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taio · Post by **taio** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:17 pm

Sadly Dyche has said it's a long term injury.

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:23 pm

Out for the season

Wilsdenclaret · Post by **Wilsdenclaret** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:24 pm

Cruciate confirmed

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:27 pm

Last time this happened our form took a dip. However we've a better squad this time round. Gutted for Marney though.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:29 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Last time this happened our form took a dip. However we've a better squad this time round. Gutted for Marney though.

It certainly did take a dip. But like you say, I think our only central midfielders then were Dave Jones and Marney. This time at least we have Barton, Defour and Hendrick. Another central midfielder needed in the next 5 days though I think. Tarks could do a job, but that wouldn't be ideal, with Barton facing a possible ban.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:30 pm

There's an urgent need to get in another centre midfielder now given the likelihood of a significant ban for Barton.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:33 pm

Great shame, he was having a solid season. Hope he makes a full recovery and is part of our Premier League squad next season.

We needed another midfielder before this news, we certainly do now.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:34 pm

Now it's been confirmed, will the poster who got in a strop that we were talking about it calm down now?

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:34 pm

Get well soon Dean

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:36 pm

Gutted for him.

Need someone else in now though, and where with the re-signing of Barton we weren't expecting him to be a starter, I think this signing needs to be a mid 20s lad who's ready to start and also offers a bit of dynamism. Defour and Barton are great at what they do, but they're shortish blokes who rely on positioning and passing.

What we need now is someone else in the vein of Hendrick, but perhaps with a bit more steel. A player quick across the turf, not afraid to get stuck in. Basically, a young Dean Marney.

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:40 pm

Bloody hell,what a shame,now leaves us desperate with barton ban looming,jbg out too fxxxx sake

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:44 pm

Speedy recovery Deano!!

You will be missed

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ShabbaRanks · Post by **ShabbaRanks** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:46 pm

claretspice wrote:And to add to that, pace and stamina are each a skill, or at least an attribute, that is priceless.

Marney is - as he actually showed with the run he made that resulted in him getting injured - both quick (I'd hazard a guess that of our starting XI, only Gray and Keane would beat him over 40 yards, with Hendrick and Boyd the only players who might push him) and has a fantastic engine. They are his biggest strengths, and they're easily underestimated.

Dean Marney is by no measure a quick player.

Dean Marney being one of our fastest players, whether that is true or not (i find that very hard to believe personally) is absolutely not something to shout out about. It's a damning indictment of our teams only real weakness.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:49 pm

ShabbaRanks wrote:Dean Marney is by no measure a quick player.

Dean Marney being one of our fastest players, whether that is true or not (i find that very hard to believe personally) is absolutely not something to shout out about. It's a damning indictment of our teams only real weakness.

And here was me thinking that the fitness of the squad was one of our strengths.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:52 pm

Issue with releasing the news now is every other club will know we're looking for a player with some urgency, so prices will go up and negotiations could become more protracted in the hope another club gazumps our offers.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:52 pm

Bloody crap, two do's in the Premier League, both times finished in January, gutted for him.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:12 pm

Best wishes and a big thanks to Dean Marney for all he has done for the team/club/us. Get fit soon.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:17 pm

Not good news. However, there could be a silver lining if we unearth a talented lad to replace him in the squad. I feel he's run out of steam in the past month after being a real driving force from August through to November. My hope was he'd get a couple of weeks rest on the bench maybe, not end up injured for the season! It's a huge blow for him personally as he may never return to the heights he's shown previously.

All that said... all the best to Deano; he's a top lad and he will be missed.

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:15 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:Reasonably certain its an anterior cruciate injury. When he was lying on the pitch the Physio checked his knee by doing an anterior draw test, following which he had his leg strapped up and was put on a stretcher. Pretty sure that the Pysio suspected an ACL tear, I don't know if its the same knee or not though. This will make a difference to repair / recovery.

The MRI will show for definite but he may not necessarily have this done immediately.

Glad to see my diagnostic abilities remain OK. - see post 50 above.

Sad for Marney though, but no surprise and I still think he'll be back.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:01 pm

Yes well, I also pointed out out I thought it might be another op.
Whilst I didn't want to be too down beat I hoped I was wrong, but unfortunately I was .
Really sorry for him, if we stay up he will not play again for us.
We will have moved on by the time he is good to play.
If we go down he could play again, but I think we will be safe this year.
A very good servant of BFC and for that he will always be a Burnley legend to me.
Get well soon Dean

jollyjack · Post by **jollyjack** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:08 pm

Dean,

If you read the forum, please accept our heartfelt sympathies on your injury. You have been an absolute star to persevere and return from this in the past, and we all wish you nothing but the best in your attempts to repeat that. The juggernaut rolls on but fans should remember that there are people working hard to overcome these injuries and get their careers back on track at every Club across the country.

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ShabbaRanks · Post by **ShabbaRanks** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:40 pm

fidelcastro wrote:And here was me thinking that the fitness of the squad was one of our strengths.

Fitness and speed/pace are absolutely not the same thing. I can't believe i'm having to say that.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:33 pm

We can rebuild him