Marney injury

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:52 pm

So we're all still guessing then?

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:52 pm

Got to say I prefer it when he isn't in our midfield at this level. Excellent Championship player, a little limited at this level, a sort of jack of all trades.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:53 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Got to say I prefer it when he isn't in our midfield at this level. Excellent Championship player, a little limited at this level, a sort of jack of all trades.

Is that because you want Tarks in there instead?

100percentclaret · Post by **100percentclaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:54 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Believe so but we're not very good in that market with one obvious exception (and it is a single exception).

Kightly ???

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:54 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Got to say I prefer it when he isn't in our midfield at this level. Excellent Championship player, a little limited at this level, a sort of jack of all trades.

Personally, I've got to say that I hope he makes a swift and full recovery.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:27 pm

Marney is the heartbeat of the team. He's more limited than our other midfield options but he epitomises everything that a Sean Dyche team is about. We're fairly well stocked in that position now so a lengthy injury to Marney may not prove as catastrophic as it was 2 seasons ago, but make no mistake losing Marney for a significant period of time would be a big blow.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:28 pm

Jack of all trades? Marney?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Marney is the heartbeat of the team. He's more limited than our other midfield options but he epitomises everything that a Sean Dyche team is about. We're fairly well stocked in that position now so a lengthy injury to Marney may not prove as catastrophic as it was 2 seasons ago, but make no mistake losing Marney for a significant period of time would be a big blow.

I'm not sure we are well stocked.

Barton (potential ban)
Marney (potential long lay off)
Hendrick
Defour
O'Neill

We definitely need one at least in there now.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:33 pm

DCWat wrote:I'm not sure we are well stocked.

Barton (potential ban)
Marney (potential long lay off)
Hendrick
Defour
O'Neill

We definitely need one at least in there now.

By fairly well stocked I mean, in Marney's absence, we still have 3 fit and proven midfielders. Compare this to last time when we had Dave Jones.

We needed to bring in a midfielder before Marney's injury, I'd suggest we definitely need to now.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:51 pm

3 fit and proven midfielders isn't enough though in my book. We need at least 4 fit and proven central midfielders. O'Neil will of course be classed as the next Paul Gascoigne until he's played more minutes for us, but I see him as a 5th choice at best and it seems that Dyche even prefers a centre back ahead of him.

Definitely 1 more central midfielder good enough to make the first 11 needed imo.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:01 pm

100percentclaret wrote:Kightly ???

"LOL" as I believe they say.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:02 pm

Of course anyone would wish Marney a quick recovery but for me at this level I see him as a squad player, he is however the epitome of an SD player, heart action endeavour just a tad short on quality.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:16 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Got to say I prefer it when he isn't in our midfield at this level. Excellent Championship player, a little limited at this level, a sort of jack of all trades.

Simply clueless. Jack of all trades? He has always played one role for us. And he's been very good at it. One of my favourite players over the last few years. Him driving our play has been crucial. Try watching a game every now and then at least.

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:16 pm

Marney is an experience pro who does the groundwork which largely goes unnoticed.
Positional sense, anticipation, space marking and break-up tackling are his qualities. He may not contribute many goals or deliver the champagne passes but boy will we miss a player of his ilk if we don't find a replacement.

Clarettintedlense · Post by **Clarettintedlense** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:17 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Got to say I prefer it when he isn't in our midfield at this level. Excellent Championship player, a little limited at this level, a sort of jack of all trades.

Bit tasteless

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:20 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:Reasonably certain its an anterior cruciate injury. When he was lying on the pitch the Physio checked his knee by doing an anterior draw test, following which he had his leg strapped up and was put on a stretcher. Pretty sure that the Pysio suspected an ACL tear, I don't know if its the same knee or not though. This will make a difference to repair / recovery.

The MRI will show for definite but he may not necessarily have this done immediately.

If it's an ACL injury, at his age, his career is as good as finished.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:58 pm

The fact that he needs the MRI scan is gutting enough for Deano - regretfully I don't recall any of our players coming away from the scanner in recent times with anything other than terrible news.

Marney's professionalism has never been in doubt but he has become a much better player since Dyche took charge. He's hugely influential and an integral cog in our works. Our record with him in (rather than out) of the team speaks volumes.

Good look Dean - got everything crossed.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:05 pm

Do hope his injury isn't as serious as it potentially might be.
Irrespective of whether it is or not we do need someone else in.
We can't take the risk of losing another midfielder and finding ourselves short and unbalanced.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:20 pm

Strange things complete ACLs injuries cos the ligament has actually snapped and as it is no longer connected, after the initial shock of the force of it, there is not the pain or load problems associated with partial ligament tears or breaks etc even a hamstring tear or ankle sprain could initially hurt more. and will initially feel worse and be more debilitating. obviously the day after and from then on your knee acts like it's been in a car crash.
Remember Deano walked off at half time after his last ACL and wanted to return for the second half.
So I'm hoping it turns out to be more routine ligament damage, as he stayed down and it was obviously hurting.
He's a legend for me and many others.
Good Luck Deano

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:30 pm

I find it pretty distasteful to be on here claiming a player might be finished without knowing the full facts.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:51 pm

I hope he's not out for a long period obviously, but I'm with ABC on this one (never thought I'd say that!) in as much as I don't think he should be in the starting 11 these days.

The last couple of games in particular have completely passed him by. Couple that with how well Barton, Hendrick and Defour played together against Sunderland and it just proves the point even more.

Don't get me wrong, he's a useful player, but I don't think he does anything better than the others we have. It feels like a complete waste having him in the middle and Defour wide left. A bit like playing Scholes wide left for England.

Hopefully he's not out for long as he'll be needed between now and May, but I think we can cope without him currently.... unless Joey B gets a 10 match ban that is!!

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:01 pm

Papabendi wrote:I find it pretty distasteful to be on here claiming a player might be finished without knowing the full facts.

If that comment is aimed at me, I'd advise you to be mindful of the fact that I don't give a tuppenny f*ck what you think.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:04 pm

It was definitely aimed at you, I wouldn't be standing for any of that if I was you.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:06 pm

why would I care what you think, I am stating a fact.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:08 pm

Papabendi wrote:why would I care what you think, I am stating a fact.

Erm.... yeah?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:13 pm

Papabendi wrote:I find it pretty distasteful to be on here claiming a player might be finished without knowing the full facts.

Did you read what you'd written before you posted it?

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:15 pm

Papabendi wrote:I find it pretty distasteful to be on here claiming a player might be finished without knowing the full facts.

Of course people are going to speculate on the injury. That does not mean that to a man (even those who do not value him as highly, unlike me) do not wish him nothing but the best towards a speedy and full recovery.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:17 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Did you read what you'd written before you posted it?

Too busy taking offence, Sid.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:18 pm

To be fair, I think it's fair to state that a 33 year old with a history of knee problems who is facing 12-18 months out could well be finished.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:34 pm

so you know he is definitely facing 12-18 months out?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:45 pm

Considering no news has been released how long he will be out for a find that baffling to say he will be out for 12 -18 months

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:52 pm

No one knows how long he will be out, as you can see there are varied opinions about what injury hes sustained.

Is it so wrong to talk about it and offer opinion?

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:05 pm

Whatever the injury i am very clear that Deano has been a magnificent signing and I really hope that he is bac in the squad soon.

If this is the end he will a massive miss.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:13 pm

What's the chances of losing Deano just after Lansbury finally leaves Forest.

We definitely need cover and I don't mean recalling Ulvestad.

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:20 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:If it's an ACL injury, at his age, his career is as good as finished.

Simply not true, sorry. Even if its an ACL tear in the same knee a second repair should only be 6-9 months (only!) and no reason why he cannot come back from it.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:56 pm

Where might one find a " tuppeny **** " ?

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:05 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Where might one find a " tuppeny **** " ?

Same aisle as a thre'penny bit

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:41 pm

A truly under rated player. He has been the engine for our team for 4 or 5 years. People make out that he's poor at passing but he actually provides some very good cross field passes. The only area of his game that "lacks quality" is his shooting. Had a quieter couple of games recently as he has clearly been carrying an injury. He epitomises the Dyche ethic, everything down to being one of the first to sign a reduced contract. If his career is finished by injury then I hope he signs a coaching role and delivers his passion on to the next generation.
I love Dean Marney.

scrambledclaret · Post by **scrambledclaret** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:14 pm

Gutted for the man, it looked nasty the way he rolled about like Rivaldo, he's hard our Deano so I feared straight away it was a bad one. He's been a bloody good player for us in a position we'd had problems in for a long while and notably got one of those long range volleys, not only under the bar, but in the back of net recently. We've got a much deeper midfield squad than I can ever remember as a Burnley fan but he'll still be a big loss. Speedy recovery Dean.

edit:

Forgot to add he did this in spite of the stigma of being a Laws signing (a while ago but no small thing).

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:02 pm

Looked like a gazza to me. Gutted - he's the only player we have who stops those opposition length of the pitch moves that end with a goal

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:23 pm

Absolutely vital that we don't have to go without him for any length of time. A real talisman. Been a simply excellent player for us.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:27 am

Has consistently been our best midfielder this year

This is our best year since the early 60's

Not Premier class? -If he had a foreign name he'd be a legend at most clubs

He'll be back

UTC

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:31 am

I'm sure we will be prepared for this after what happened to him in the last Prem season. At least we have a few days left to sort some cover out.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:37 am

Is there any actual news or are we just drawing a line in the sand now to say whether we think he's the second coming of Jesus or he's crap and finished.

Hoping for the best Deano

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:08 am

Post 62 actually a fair summary by ABC. Been a good signing no doubt about that though. Hope it's not as bad as appears.

taio · Post by **taio** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:12 am

Blackrod wrote:Post 62 actually a fair summary by ABC. Been a good signing no doubt about that though. Hope it's not as bad as appears.

Not really given Marney has had another good season and his injury was often cited as the reason we got relegated last time - he's more than a 'squad player' to us.

Amex · Post by **Amex** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:13 am

To be honest I am shocked by some of the comments on here about Deano, he has been a fantastic player for Burnley, a player not many years ago who was way out of our league, short memories a lot like them lot down the road....
I wish him all the best and can't wait to see him involved in what ever role he can for the club in the future on or off the field..
A true claret

Enola Gay · Post by **Enola Gay** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:28 am

Given his age we'd almost certainly have been looking for Marney's long-term replacement in the next couple of transfer windows anyway. Hopefully his injury isn't long-term or serious but however bad it is, all that will be happening now is the need to find his successor will have moved a notch or two further up the priority table, assuming he isn't already here in Hendrick.

Big week ahead for our transfer team.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:16 am

Deano has been/is absolutely fantastic for us. I know he got some stick a few years ago and I couldn't believe it. I've rated him from day one and would be gutted if he doesn't play for us again this season. He's got to be the only player who would try and "run off" a knee ligament injury!? He puts to shame all the so called superstars who go off "injured" as soon as they get a hair out of place. As Enola says above we will be looking for his replacement but, bloody hell, he's been class for us.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:24 am

It was clear how important Marney was when we realised we couldn't win games without him. I don't think that's the case now, thanks to a bit more strength in depth. But we still need another central midfielder.