is agyei the man to replace bamford

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is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by CFS » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:22 pm

If he is I'm happy with that. Obviously not seen enough of him but think it should if been the case in the first place with what we must of been paying bamford.
Just leaves a winger and a CM to buy or loan in the days we have left.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Blackrod » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:37 pm

No

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by firstclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:54 pm

30 grand at roughly 20 weeks equals £600,000 for a fourth choice striker who saw very little first team action,or spend upwards of 5m(rising to 10m) for the same player to bench warm on a longer contract?

With regards to Agyei, he needs another loan.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:09 pm

Saw Agyei play for u23s yesterday and on his showing he's a million miles away.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:12 pm

Well, given that Bamford didn't really play then Agyei would be Ok as a replacement. In fact so would I when you think about it
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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by DCWat » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:14 pm

Would we be happy for him to start if Vokes, Gray and Barnes were absent for whatever reason? Surely the answer to that is no and therefore he's not the man to replace Bamford.

It could hinder him more than benefit him, adding that sort of pressure to a young lad. Bed him in slowly and get him in and around the first team by all means but let's allow our youngsters the time and development needed.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:27 pm

He'd definitely have to be behind our main three strikers, but these youngsters need to get a feel to the life and pace of a premier league player.
I'm sure Everton have better players than Lookman in the club, but they give them a chance.
That said we would need to be 3 up to blood the kids, but the principle is still the same. Whether it's Agyei, Long, O'Neil whoever.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:28 pm

we've got Tarks, he can play anywhere ;)
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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by TVC15 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:28 pm

He did well in friendly v Bolton but to be honest if he was in and out of a Coventry team who are in the relegation places in division one then there is nothing to suggest he is good enough or ready to be on the bench in the Premier League.

There is no point being on our bench if you are not ready to come on the pitch and make a difference.

My preference would be to sign a striker on loan who is experienced in Premier League - which probably means he is the back end of his career. If that player can give us a good 15 minutes given how crucial the final period of our games have been this season then that might be worth £500k to £750k of a loan fee

...at this stage of the season all it takes is contribution of a goal or an assist or two and securing 2 or 3 points and it would be worth it.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:30 pm

The lad looks nowhere near ready.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by willsclarets » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:33 pm

He's got a long way to go to prove he's up to premier league standard.
If we sign a striker, they should be pushing for the bench at least.. Bamford was good cover that we didn't end up needing, but it was good to know we had a fourth striker you'd trust to be at this level. All depends on budget and priorities, but it would be preferable to sign a decent striker in this window. Behind a wide midfielder and a central midfielder, mind.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by summitclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:55 pm

Surely Chris Long would be next in line fr0m our dev. squad. However, Boyd and JBG can play in the number 10 role.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:57 pm

Is Long still at Fleetwood? strange how a young player scoring Championship goals before he came to us has seemingly gone backwards in his development since signing the contract.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by ablueclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:08 pm

Let's see what he can do, this boy had raw talent that shouldn't disappear.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by MACCA » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:Is Long still at Fleetwood? strange how a young player scoring Championship goals before he came to us has seemingly gone backwards in his development since signing the contract.
A million pound footballer at that, well that was the rumour.

Sordell scored more!

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:15 pm

Taylor at Bristol Rovers is available this month for 300K (release clause). Scored a ridiculous amount of goals and at that type of money is zero risk. Gray came from the lower leagues as did Vardy etc. 300K is nothing

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by maidenover » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:32 pm

"The lad looks nowhere near ready."

Did anyone in our team that night look anywhere near ready Tony ?

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Longside4evr » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:39 pm

If he was near any sort of level to be introduced to be in line then surely we would have given this option a try in our FA cup fixture this weekend but don't see it happening some how

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by MrTopTier » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:39 pm

Ulloa is available as well and wants to leave, has premier league experience, works well for the team is only 30, another who is relatively low risk, but is he too similar to Barnes or Vokes.
Akpom at Arsenal is also available on a loan, would fit the bill as a fourth striker and has had some premier league experience.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by IndigoLake » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:50 pm

I don't see why not. He obviously has some promise and scored some good goals at League One level with struggling Coventry City. However the reality is that he's not going to get a lot of football and maybe it's better for his development if he's loaned out again to League One or perhaps the Championship. I don't think signing another striker is a bad idea as we don't want to have to rely on Agyei if Gray, Barnes or Vokes get injured or suspended.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Holtyclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:07 pm

I thought I read somewhere that Brentford were looking to loan him if they sell hogan.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Reecey1987 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:10 pm

The problem is . Will anybody be willing to loan us a striker knowing that there hardly going to get a kick . Even if the club agrees to the loan the player might turn it down because they dont fancy sitting on a bench till the season out

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by willsclarets » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:15 pm

Long is a strange one KRBFC. A few Everton fans I know were gutted to see him go, but he's stalled somewhat. From what he showed at Brentford he clearly has talent.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Reecey1987 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:16 pm

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by willsclarets » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:20 pm

We don't need ulloa, we have Barnes and vokes with similar qualities. Signing him at 30 is a waste of a big salary. He's not troubling the starting 11 under dyche. Gray moved us on a notch, we need to be looking at players who improve us whether it be a striker or anywhere else. Brady is a perfect example; he'll cost a lot but he fits the criteria we need to take us on. If we only sign him I'd be happy, rather than 3 players who won't make the team selection more of a headache

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Saw Agyei play for u23s yesterday and on his showing he's a million miles away.
Judging purely by the score, it sounds like we dont have many if any coming thru ?

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Roosterbooster » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:18 pm

willsclarets wrote:Long is a strange one KRBFC. A few Everton fans I know were gutted to see him go, but he's stalled somewhat. From what he showed at Brentford he clearly has talent.
I was a little sad to see him go on loan. I think he showed promise in the spells I've seen him. And without doubt ahead of Agyei in the pecking order. For all the game time Bamford got, wouldn't it have been beneficial to see more of Long?

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by TVC15 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:24 pm

Long looked a long way out of his depth last year in his substitute appearances for Burnley.

He started his loan spell at Fleetwood like a house on fire but the last 3 months or so has not gone as well. He picked up an injury I think and last couple of months has been on the bench and not scored a goal for a while now.

Fleetwood been doing really well so hard to assess whether he is progressing but big gap between Div 1 and Premier League and whilst he should be ahead of Agyei again we need to be looking for someone who can come off the bench and make a difference. If Long could not do that last year then massive risk to assume he can do this season....and I do not think that in our great position on and off the field we need to take those kind of risks.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:32 pm

I work with a guy who has a season ticket at Everton and he (and his mates) all rated Long and were disappointed he didn't get more of a chance there. Whether he has really stalled or not I don't know. It's impossible to judge on the little we've seen in Claret and Blue. I DO remember being at Cardiff away last season and he started and played about 3 quarters of the game, but I don't think he actually touched the ball once before we were 2 down in the second half and he was subbed. (We all know how it then turned out don't we?)

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by KRBFC » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:39 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I work with a guy who has a season ticket at Everton and he (and his mates) all rated Long and were disappointed he didn't get more of a chance there. Whether he has really stalled or not I don't know. It's impossible to judge on the little we've seen in Claret and Blue. I DO remember being at Cardiff away last season and he started and played about 3 quarters of the game, but I don't think he actually touched the ball once before we were 2 down in the second half and he was subbed. (We all know how it then turned out don't we?)
Hennings changed the game and was never given a real sniff after that
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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by k90bfc » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:41 pm

Give Josh Ginnelly a chance!

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:46 pm

Get that bloke back from the beach in Italy or wherever he's gone to play (or chat up fit ladies!!!). You know, the guy who looks like he should be in Glee instead of playing football. Let's find out if he's any good!

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by TVC15 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:26 pm

Fleetwood winning 2-0 at leaders Sheff Utd tonight

All 3 subs made by Fleetwood and Long not brought on.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:35 pm

Everton fans are always going to look at a product of their youth academy through rose tinted lenses, it's not a great indicator. As mentioned, he didn't get much of a chance for us, but when he did he didn't look close to Championship standard, never mind Premier League.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by roamingclaret » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:50 pm

k90bfc wrote:Give Josh Ginnelly a chance!
Got to agree with that...Pace to burn & an eye for goal...plus the element of suprise coming on as a late sub. against a tiring defence, good at set pieces. Similar to how Ranieri handled D.Grey's development at Leicester.

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Re: is agyei the man to replace bamford

Post by HendricksHair » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:52 pm

Only one way to find out...

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