Snodgrass

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:35 pm

He would have a bigger impact straight away and totally suit the way we play. Still think he could go elsewhere.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:36 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:West Ham unlikely to match our bid, apparently.

Interesting. Where has this come from?

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:36 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:West Ham unlikely to match our bid, apparently.

Maybe Snodgrass wants to play his home games in the same postcode as the fans ha ha!

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:36 pm

Woah, woah, woah. Can we all calm down please? Nobody else post on here for a bit. I was away for a couple of hours and now there are 4 pages of posts to read!

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:38 pm

Guardian reporting that Boro, West Ham and Watford are expected to match the offer with Swansea, Sunderland and Bournemouth also keen.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:38 pm

martin_p wrote:Interesting. Where has this come from?

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elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:39 pm

jedi_master wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Townsend wasn't on at least £60-70k a week.

Certainly wouldn't argue with your figures Jedi, but would Snodgrass be coming for significantly less? I'd have thought they'd be at a similar rate, though I admit I am not basing this presumption on anything concrete.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:40 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Just a thought but should we not be looking at Andras Townshend? Newcastle are hoping to get him back on loan with a permanent in the summer. From what I've seen of him (though not as much as some no doubt) he always looks to put a shift in and has undoubted quality. Just wonder why no one seems to see him as a potential target. Is it a wages thing perhaps?

Townsend is capable of being an impact player (at international level, even) but lacks the discipline, positional sense or work ethic to be a regular starter. Someone will probably take a punt on him though. My money is on Swansea or Bournemouth.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:41 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Certainly wouldn't argue with your figures Jedi, but would Snodgrass be coming for significantly less? I'd have thought they'd be at a similar rate, though I admit I am not basing this presumption on anything concrete.

Let us hope you are wrong as if he or his agent thinks he can command 60-70k a week he won't be coming to Lancashire, sadly.

I think Snodgrass is well within his rights to be anticipating a salary of 40k a week+ in this market, it could be that we can remove the plus from that figure by offering a very healthy signing on fee.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:43 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Guardian reporting that Boro, West Ham and Watford are expected to match the offer with Swansea, Sunderland and Bournemouth also keen.

Well according to the link from The Standard West Ham have cooled on Snodgrass. He'd have to be mad to want to go to Sunderland at the moment which leaves Swansea, Watford, Boro and Bournemouth. I'd hope we'd have a chance against those four.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:44 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I don't think that's true. Once there is an offer accepted a contract has been formed between the two clubs. Obviously then another contract has to be agreed between Snodgrass and Burnley, but Hull can't just un-accept the offer.

I don't think there can be a legally binding contract because of the uncertainty of whether Snodgrass will agree to move. I suppose they could make a binding offer to sale subject to Snodgrass's agreement, but I doubt that they would.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:49 pm

Odds shortening on us...

Us 1/2
West Ham 5/2
Boro 7/1
Bournemouth 28/1

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:49 pm

jedi_master wrote:Let us hope you are wrong as if he or his agent thinks he can command 60-70k a week he won't be coming to Lancashire, sadly.

I think Snodgrass is well within his rights to be anticipating a salary of 40k a week+ in this market, it could be that we can remove the plus from that figure by offering a very healthy signing on fee.

I would say he would be asking for around 45k on a 4/5 year deal or around 50k on a 3 year deal. Going by currently markets.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:49 pm

Sure there could be a fee paid for "first refusal", but why would we if Snodgrass does not agree personal terms it would take us no further than we are.

Just don't understand being preferred buyer for Hull would make the slightest difference.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:51 pm

The Club shop have just placed an order for 2500 letter 'S''.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:51 pm

Can't see him fitting in at Swansea or Bournemouth to be honest.

'Boro would be the one, but again, hasn't Karanka told Downing (broadly similar) he can go?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:51 pm

Rumours he has threatened to down tools before our bid was accepted.
He must know what sort of money is being offered re wages

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:55 pm

Funny really, I feel almost let down as I so much wanted and still do want to see Robbie Brady playing at the Turf for us .

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:57 pm

And an easy drive to work.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:58 pm

I assumed it was a joke at first but I think some people are actually following bookies odds as though they are some kind of accurate measure of how likely he is to sign for us.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:00 pm

There's always one isn't there.

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Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:00 pm

From Alan Nixon via twitter:

"Suspect a few games being played with Snodgrass and Burnley thing. Lot want him. And he wants a LOT of wages."

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:04 pm

Well if thats the case were going to get neither brady or snodgrass . Palace are bradys number one choice and if snodgrass isnt interested in coming to burnley then were stuck unless they have a back up plan

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:06 pm

I think that in this case the odds on West Ham and boro are more relevant than the odds on us to sign him. Bookies aren't stupid and they wouldn't keep lengthening their odds without just cause. With skybet West Ham are out to 3/1 and boro out to 10/1. Things can change quickly obviously but this isn't mere speculation, we do appear to have a bid accepted.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:09 pm

Talk about quick

Us 2/5
West Ham 2/1
Boro 8/1

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:10 pm

I'm sure there will be a back up plan if we can't get either of these two in.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:12 pm

Derek Riorden?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:12 pm

More likely to go to West Ham who can afford the sort of wages being mooted.

They are, after all, being funded by the taxpayer.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:14 pm

Bookies just following the money and shortening odds - simple maths they know no more than me or you. The only time you can say with any certainty is when they close the book and stop offering odds.

That old adage of the bookies not getting things wrong might be a bit out of date with Brexit, Trump, Leicester etc !

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:16 pm

Darthlaw wrote:Surely only to get their respective bids up to £10 million?

Nobody in their right mind would try to outbid an already accepted figure. Apart from Man City of course.

Could another team not bid a million extra to get our accepted bid rejected to give them an advantage?

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:16 pm

I'll give you that re brexit, trump etc but they're from opinion polls, the bookies will have people keeping them informed as to which way the land lies. It won't be just following the money on its own or they would always be reactive, not proactive and thus lose money.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:24 pm

Snod is Scottish for neat and tidy and trim.So in English he's called Mr. Neat and tidy trim grass i.e. pitch. So maybe we should call him Mr. Pitch, if he signs. Coincidence the news comes out on Burns Night? I think he has the right determination to succeed at Burnley, let's hope he signs.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:Could another team not bid a million extra to get our accepted bid rejected to give them an advantage?

Why £1 million extra? Why not £1?

Not often you hear of bids being accepted, then rejected because of competing bids.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:29 pm

he's on 45k a week at hull.........can't see him taking a pay cut @ Burnley

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:32 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:he's on 45k a week at hull.........can't see him taking a pay cut @ Burnley

Maybe not ( if your figures are correct ) but a nice bumper signing on fee might help, staying up bonus or an increase on wages should we stay up might.

Whos to say his wage at Hull will stay at 45 should they be relegated.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:33 pm

Sadly can't see this one happening, think he just wants that West Ham move.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:36 pm

got to agree, I think Boro or West Ham will blow us out of the water sometime later today

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:40 pm

kentonclaret wrote:More likely to go to West Ham who can afford the sort of wages being mooted.

They are, after all, being funded by the taxpayer.

Why are they being funded by the taxpayer?

If they are then we might be able to find Julie Cooper something useful to do.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:43 pm

Braindead wrote:No what we should do is desperately try and sign a degenerate gambling winger an hour before the window slams shut. No plan B will cost us, does Dyche not have a list of preferred wingers?

I however have a list of less preferred whingers if that helps

Sausage Rolls · Post by **Sausage Rolls** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:44 pm

Hopefully Dyche can talk him into signing like he's done with Defour

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:48 pm

Sausage Rolls wrote:Hopefully Dyche can talk him into signing like he's done with Defour

The difference with this one is that one of Dyche's bargaining tools would of been premier league football.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:48 pm

David Meyler said last night there's no chance Snodgrass will join Middlesbrough, he even offered to make a bet with the person who asked him on a live stream thing he does.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:49 pm

Maybe he's thick and signs for us cos he thinks we're west ham

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:58 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:he's on 45k a week at hull.........can't see him taking a pay cut @ Burnley

If we offered around that on a 3+ year deal, plus signing on fee its a pay rise.

We can't afford to disrupt our scale too much. Therefore we need to be creative. Longer contract, bigger signing on fee, bonuses. Not saying wehave players who would be upset if someone is on more then them - it is possible though. Most of its probably ego. As long as he isnt earning far more then them on a weekly basis then they wont be bothered. They wont look at the entire contract value.

Besides, we need to improve and that means paying more. If we pay more we may do better. If we do better they may get more. Its in their interests that we improve and pay better.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:00 pm

Well unless he's playing us like lambert did then you would expect that the personal terms must already be known and within our range

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:14 pm

Dyched wrote:Maybe he's thick and signs for us cos he thinks we're west ham

Great post

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:20 pm

I was going to post the same as CFC. If he is wanting more money, it makes sense to offer it in a signing on fee, in a bid to control and maintain our structure.
We all agree he is class, you have to accept that you have to pay more for better things. We have the money at this juncture.
He has scored 9 goals this season (more than Andre) in a poor Ull side, and been involved in either scoring or assisting 50% of their goals.
It takes out an opponent and will push us on a level.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Well unless he's playing us like lambert did then you would expect that the personal terms must already be known and within our range

How is he playing us? Hull have accepted the bid, not him?

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:24 pm

I think you can accept more than one bid, then its up to the player which club he joins.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:25 pm

Too many people writing off Hull I think
This new manager seems to have something about him to me. They played very well at Chelsea - far better than we did.

On the plus side I don't suppose Silva would choose to lose Livermore and Snodgrass in one week.

Harry McGuire looked excellent v Chelsea - hard to believe on that performance he isn't a regular - think he will be from now.