Snodgrass

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:27 pm

I would love to see him sign for us, he must have seen Livermore going as the final straw. Structure his wages as others have previously said to include shed loads of add on extras for the lad and pay him a weekly figure that we can publish and say it is within our structure. We will not tell anyone it isn't really what he is earning and every one is happy.

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taffy · Post by **taffy** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:28 pm

Surely after the transfer fee has been agreed he is informed of what we are prepared to pay him over how many years and a signing on fee and its down to him and his agent whether they accept or not if other clubs match or better our offer then its down to him where he chooses to go , but there will be more to moving clubs than just money tho its must be pretty high on the agenda

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:28 pm

I'm waiting for the inevitable Tony Pulis hijack

taffy · Post by **taffy** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:31 pm

If we don't get him is Andrew driver still available

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:34 pm

BennyD wrote: It also says Brady is off to Palace.

I'd take Sir Brady over sobriety every day.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:35 pm

We're absolutely crying out for a winger with pace, and have been for some time. Although Snodgrass is a decent player, he isn't that.

I'm not sure £10 million on a player who turns 30 this year, and has a history of serious injuries is going to be a great investment for us.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:37 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:We're absolutely crying out for a winger with pace, and have been for some time. Although Snodgrass is a decent player, he isn't that.

I'm not sure £10 million on a player who turns 30 this year, and has a history of serious injuries is going to be a great investment for us.

I was waiting for someone to say it... if he does sustain an injury, I know who I am blaming! Please do me a favour if he does sign and touch some wood.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:40 pm

Might not have the turn of pace but he can take the ball up to a FB drop a shoulder and be gone. Something we don't have. Look at his chances created figures in a poor Hull side.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:42 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:We're absolutely crying out for a winger with pace, and have been for some time. Although Snodgrass is a decent player, he isn't that.

I'm not sure £10 million on a player who turns 30 this year, and has a history of serious injuries is going to be a great investment for us.

History of serious injuries is a bit much, he has had one hasn't he?

lrac · Post by **lrac** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:44 pm

I bloody hate january

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:50 pm

taffy wrote:If we don't get him is Andrew driver still available

No but Derek Riordan is looking for a club on LinkedIn

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:51 pm

jedi_master wrote:History of serious injuries is a bit much, he has had one hasn't he?

Missed 85 games through injury since August 2010, according to transfermarkt.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/robert-s ... eler/22614

By contrast, Sam Vokes, as a random example of someone we know has had a bad time with injuries, has missed 29. Dean Marney has missed 39.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sam-voke ... eler/48078
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dean-mar ... ieler/4055

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:53 pm

If Snodgrass does come to Burnley, and I sincerely hope he does, then he
might just prove to be the player who helps us stay up and in a reasonably high position too
(each place is worth over 2m, I think).
If that were to be the case then we might recoup a decent amount
and it would have been more than worthwhile.

If we could get another 2-3 seasons out of him then even more so.

At the end of the day he's a proven Premier League player who not only
is capable of scoring a few but also creating a few chances so if we did get him
then I think we couldn't really ask for more.

Let's hope we can match his wage demands or if not then give him a decent signing on
amount and that he gets through the medical.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:59 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:How is he playing us? Hull have accepted the bid, not him?

Do you honestly think for one second that his agent has already told our board what his terms are. **** me we might as well put a 20 million bid in for ibrahimovic knowing full well we couldn't afford his wages

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:59 pm

Hull have prob gone public with the £10m figure to encourage a further bidding war between any interested parties

We have to be realistic and accept that any other PL club (apart from Sunderland) will be able to offer higher wages than ourselves

The same also applies to Brady

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:02 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:We're absolutely crying out for a winger with pace, and have been for some time. Although Snodgrass is a decent player, he isn't that.

I'm not sure £10 million on a player who turns 30 this year, and has a history of serious injuries is going to be a great investment for us.

Well done John, the club shop have just cancelled that order.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:09 pm

Hope Robert Snodgrass joins us. Hope Sean Dyche and the Board can get this over the line.

I'm happy to leave it to the professionals.

I'm not Snodgrass's agent - or anyone's agent. I've no idea about his "wage demands." I've no idea whether Burnley would bid and get bid accepted by Hull before we knew whether we can meet Snodgrass's wage, or whether terms are only discussed with the player afterwards. Anything is possible.
If Snodgrass has injury problems does that mean that we will pay him generously regardless of him being available to play? Would we not sign him if he failed his medical? (I'm pretty sure medical always comes after agreeing terms).

Many of the things we are worrying about on this thread are outside our hands. What will be will be, and it's only 25 January - 6 more days of "transfer madness" to go.

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Shipclaret · Post by **Shipclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:11 pm

Hull mate of mine reckons his contacts confirm Snoddy is Burnley bound and he knows a few people there. I guess we will see if he really does have the inside track or not in the next 24-36 hours.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:14 pm

Walton wrote:Missed 85 games through injury since August 2010, according to transfermarkt.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/robert-s ... eler/22614

By contrast, Sam Vokes, as a random example of someone we know has had a bad time with injuries, has missed 29. Dean Marney has missed 39.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sam-voke ... eler/48078
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dean-mar ... ieler/4055

Fair play Walton, them stats surprise me (I just looked on Wiki at his appearances and it seemed all bar the one and a half seasons he missed - ish - due to his big injury when he joined Hull, he had played pretty much every game).

MiltonKeynesClaret93 · Post by **MiltonKeynesClaret93** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:17 pm

I'd hope we can make up for any cut in wages (if any) with a big signing on fee or a juicy bonus if we stay up.
I'd love for us to get this one over the line.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:22 pm

This would be a superb signing, as would Brady. IF we were to be relegated, and I'm not expecting it, we would have a Championship superstar on board. IF we stay up we have another £100m to keep improving.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:23 pm

Given the choice between Snodgrass and Brady, it'd be Brady every time but Snodgrass would still be a good addition to the team.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:28 pm

Dom wrote:Given the choice between Snodgrass and Brady, it'd be Brady every time but Snodgrass would still be a good addition to the team.

Both would, undoubtedly.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:28 pm

jedi_master wrote:Fair play Walton, them stats surprise me (I just looked on Wiki at his appearances and it seemed all bar the one and a half seasons he missed - ish - due to his big injury when he joined Hull, he had played pretty much every game).

Yeah the big injury was absolutely massive it seems.

I'm not particularly worried about his injury record, because if we're spending £10m on a 29/30 year old it's a shortish term signing anyway. He just happens to be a very good player, better than what we've got, and we are very cash rich.

I think he's better than Brady, but Brady would be better value for money, even if that's at £13m, simply because he's about to hit the prime of his career.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:29 pm

If he had half a brain about him, arriving at a well run club should come before wages, if we can give him a sweetner

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:33 pm

Live images from Dyche's kitchen

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:34 pm

taffy wrote:Surely after the transfer fee has been agreed he is informed of what we are prepared to pay him over how many years and a signing on fee and its down to him and his agent whether they accept or not if other clubs match or better our offer then its down to him where he chooses to go , but there will be more to moving clubs than just money tho its must be pretty high on the agenda

I would hope that he/ his agent was approached to see if he fancied the move before we even made a bid. Still doesn't mean he wouldn't just say yes so that a bid was made which started the ball rolling.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:36 pm

If Snodgrass fails to sign I'm blaming a cold omelette.

Grimsby Claret · Post by **Grimsby Claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:40 pm

Our fans have given him loads of abuse in past games with Hull.
Ditto with Joey though.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:42 pm

Don't recall much abuse for him earlier in the season.

As pointed out above if a bid has been accepted then sure chats will have already taken place with his agent over the wage etc he wants.

Be fantastic if we land him along with Brady.

Adrianthepostman · Post by **Adrianthepostman** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:45 pm

If and hopefully when this happens i'm looking forward to seeing some free kicks flying in top bins

Estonhills · Post by **Estonhills** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:51 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Do you honestly think for one second that his agent has already told our board what his terms are. **** me we might as well put a 20 million bid in for ibrahimovic knowing full well we couldn't afford his wages

I would be surprised if you have put a bid in not talking to the players agent. Most terms are agreed in principle prior to clubs agreeing these days.

I know his agent is a Boro fan and based on Teesside, snodgrass lives in North Yorkshire and welcomed a move here last week. But will hull sell to us? I would expect it's down to the player if the price is matched.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:52 pm

MarkGreen wrote:Live images from Dyche's kitchen

I've always imagined Dyches omelettes to be about 4 inches thick and full of pies and gravy - not the wafer thin camp one shown here.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:55 pm

At least we'll have a great free kick taker, I hope to never see Arfield take a free kick again. We have lacked a freekick specialist since Sir Robbie, Arfield Mears Trippier Jones just a few who have taken freekicks since Robbie left.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:56 pm

Burnley had a £10m offer accepted for the Scotland international. It is understood that Middlesbrough, West Ham and Watford are now expected to match that offer

From the Guardian.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:58 pm

Stan Tastic wrote:From the Guardian.

I think they're all guessing. The Standard understand that West Ham have moved on from Snodgrass.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:04 pm

West Ham won't pay 10m for Snodgrass, 'Boro on the other hand would go to 25m if need be.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:05 pm

Estonhills wrote:I would be surprised if you have put a bid in not talking to the players agent. Most terms are agreed in principle prior to clubs agreeing these days.

I know his agent is a Boro fan and based on Teesside, snodgrass lives in North Yorkshire and welcomed a move here last week. But will hull sell to us? I would expect it's down to the player if the price is matched.

that was my point Eston and I agree it will be down to where the player wants to go but more than likely the size of his wage packet

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:06 pm

So would Hull sell to their relegation rival Boro?

Doubt it.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:07 pm

Diesel wrote:West Ham won't pay 10m for Snodgrass, 'Boro on the other hand would go to 25m if need be.

Not sure Boro's long ball game would suit him.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:09 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Don't recall much abuse for him earlier in the season.

As pointed out above if a bid has been accepted then sure chats will have already taken place with his agent over the wage etc he wants.

Be fantastic if we land him along with Brady.

i dont recall any abuse

Scored a corker v Us and got a few boos due to the time it went it.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:24 pm

I fully accept we can blow it from here, but realistically given the lack of Boro goals and their points tally, if Hull sell him to them, they are gone.

There is no way all three of Palace, Sunderland and Swansea will fail to have a run. One will, that's just statistical history. Leicester will have too much once they are out of the CL and the likes of us have a big cushion. So for Hull's impressive new manager they really need to give him a chance - and that means selling to us rather than Boro.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:At least we'll have a great free kick taker, I hope to never see Arfield take a free kick again. We have lacked a freekick specialist since Sir Robbie, Arfield Mears Trippier Jones just a few who have taken freekicks since Robbie left.

Ross Wallace

I could never understand us letting Tyrone Mears take freekicks when there were far better candidates on the pitch including Robbie Blake.

exclaret · Post by **exclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:43 pm

I'm hearing that Snodgrass will be confirmed as a Burnley player by lunchtime on Friday at the latest.

You can take the 'source' as credible and if it's not then you won't be seeing me post ever again... I can promise you it's credible.

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Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:44 pm

How come your called 'exclaret'?

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:44 pm

A tad on the old side but probably one of the few players who might make an immediate impact.

exclaret · Post by **exclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:45 pm

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:45 pm

Snodgrass has been involved in 50% of Hulls goals in the Prem this season, scoring 7 and assisting 3. Safe to say they are fooooked without him unless someone steps up

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:45 pm

Well I hope you're right, but we've seen people with 'credible sources' time and time again getting it wrong, so I won't be getting too excited yet.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:45 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:How come your called 'exclaret'?

Because of the last time he promised to leave if he got something wrong.