Palace haven't had a fee agreed for Brady. Soz.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:50 am

Apparently.

In The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/football/li ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:51 am

We've offered more than that but that's his preferred choice

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:52 am

"Brady had been expected to move to Burnley. It remains to be seen if Palace also match the Clarets’ £10m offer for Hull City’s Robert Snodgrass. That deal may only be possible if Palace move on one of either Yohan Cabaye or Andros Townsend to Marseille or Newcastle respectively."

I'm not really sure why Townsend would go to Newcastle, again.

We can easily match the offer for Brady too, just wages

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:53 am

Silly season officially underway

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:54 am

ClaretTony wrote:We've offered more than that but that's his preferred choice

Perhaps it's the structure of the deal that is significant

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:56 am

or the wages we won't pay....or just fancies the bright lights.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:56 am

It is the structure of the deal, according to local reporters.

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:57 am

IanMcL wrote:or the wages we won't pay....or just fancies the bright lights.

Wages has nothing to do with the club accepting a fee

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:01 pm

So basically we haven't offered enough money up front? Christ bet it was it £1m up front and £12m over 3 years.

We are a joke when it comes to negotiations.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:02 pm

Did you only just figure that out, Braindead?

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:03 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Did you only just figure that out, Braindead?

Hence my username.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:03 pm

Braindead wrote:So basically we haven't offered enough money up front? Christ bet it was it £1m up front and £12m over 3 years.

We are a joke when it comes to negotiations.

Are you really posting this just after we've had a big offer accepted for another player?

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:03 pm

Braindead wrote:So basically we haven't offered enough money up front? Christ bet it was it £1m up front and £12m over 3 years.

We are a joke when it comes to negotiations.

You're a joke for coming up with that conclusion!

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:04 pm

Braindead wrote:So basically we haven't offered enough money up front? Christ bet it was it £1m up front and £12m over 3 years.

We are a joke when it comes to negotiations.

We are clearly offering some big sums of money so describing it as a joke is in itself a joke

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:05 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Are you really posting this just after we've had a big offer accepted for another player?

Which player? Snodgrass?
Righto then

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:07 pm

Braindead wrote:We are a joke when it comes to negotiations.

Really? Thanks for that information.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:09 pm

Sack the board
Sack Dyche
Sack that girl that makes a sh*t Bene and Hot in the CFS
Sack that steward that cant pronounce my name

And lets just start over!

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Really? Thanks for that information.

My pleasure.

We have been after him for three weeks and he could leave for just TWO MILLION more than Norwich signed him for plus add ons?

No, we are clearly doing a sterling job.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:15 pm

Braindead wrote:Which player? Snodgrass?
Righto then

Are you saying we haven't had a bid accepted for Snodgrass? If not, what's so funny?

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:15 pm

Braindead wrote:My pleasure.

We have been after him for three weeks and he could leave for just TWO MILLION more than Norwich signed him for plus add ons?

No, we are clearly doing a sterling job.

Don't mention Sterling ffs!!

ShabbaRanks · Post by **ShabbaRanks** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We've offered more than that but that's his preferred choice

We don't know that. All we have is paper talk and conjecture. You might want to edit your post as it implies you are more informed of the situation than most.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:17 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Are you saying we haven't had a bid accepted for Snodgrass? If not, what's so funny?

Because as soon as West Ham and Middlesbrough match our bid, which they will, it's bye bye Snodgrass and we have lost out on both our targets.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:18 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Sack the board
Sack Dyche
Sack that girl that makes a sh*t Bene and Hot in the CFS
Sack that steward that cant pronounce my name

And lets just start over!

What doesstart over mean?

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:19 pm

Braindead wrote:Because as soon as West Ham and Middlesbrough match our bid, which they will, it's bye bye Snodgrass and we have lost out on both our targets.

Pathetic. Perhaps we shouldn't go for our targets in fear of being out-muscled in the transfer market. Where would that stop - Should we just go for inferior players?

MiltonKeynesClaret93 · Post by **MiltonKeynesClaret93** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:19 pm

Braindead wrote:Because as soon as West Ham and Middlesbrough match our bid, which they will, it's bye bye Snodgrass and we have lost out on both our targets.

Not necessarily.
Cheer up.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We've offered more than that but that's his preferred choice

There has been contradictory information kicking around on this. The Irish sources - who have appeared well informed - have been indicating until this morning that we were in pole position because Brady preferred a move to us because of the Hendrick and Ward connection.

It does seem more likely it is at least partly to do with fee structure, and the amount that is guaranteed to be paid. I'd like to think that there's life in this one from our perspective yet, not least because I'm not sure Sunderland's commitment to the Brady deal is cut and dried given their ongoing interest in Van Arnholt.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:23 pm

Braindead wrote:Because as soon as West Ham and Middlesbrough match our bid, which they will, it's bye bye Snodgrass and we have lost out on both our targets.

But you're slating the board because Palace have had a bid accepted by Norwich while ignoring the fact that we've had a similar size bid accepted for a player who is arguably more in demand than Brady.

And we can match Palace's bid for Brady but if he decides to go there anyway, how is that the fault of Burnley's transfer negotiating team?

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:25 pm

We are moving to a phase of the season where we need at least half a dozen points away from home. I suspect that will need more dynamic wide players but who knows? I'm happy to trust the club on this one. The signings of Gray, Defour and Hendrick suggests that if deals don't go through, they may not be the right deals for us rather than us just being tight fisted.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:27 pm

Signing players is complicated. It's not just a case of we didn't offer enough throw another million at it. Boo hoo I'm throwing my toys out of the pram. People love finding fault with the club for anything without knowing the facts.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:28 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:We are moving to a phase of the season where we need at least half a dozen points away from home. I suspect that will need more dynamic wide players but who knows? I'm happy to trust the club on this one. The signings of Gray, Defour and Hendrick suggests that if deals don't go through, they may not be the right deals for us rather than us just being tight fisted.

I think the bottom three are that poor that 32-33 points might be enough this season, which is crazy.

In which case, 2 or 3 home wins and nothing away and we may well be safe by virtue of the shambles that sits below us.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:28 pm

I can't see Norwich being happy at him going anywhere for reputedly 4mil less than we offered.
I can't see Palace being a better prospect than us either. All records go eventually and fat Sam looks like he could have pushed it once too often.
Wages apart, the hardest part of selling Burnley is the actual town/location. If Jeff has been in his ear about how good it is here then that shouldn't be a problem.

Wait and see but it would be a shame if we couldn't pull this one out of the hat.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:29 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Apparently.

In The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/football/li ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Isn't Ed Aarons the same guy that broke the 'story' about the £3m bid we'd had accepted for Marc Roberts last week?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:30 pm

If he doesn't want to play for us , then uck him ,BFS is welcome to him

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:30 pm

MACCA wrote:What doesstart over mean?

I much prefer going back to the days before these people were at the club as we had real things to complain about.

Nowadays we have nonsical things to worry about and it's getting a bit boring.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:33 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I can't see Norwich being happy at him going anywhere for reputedly 4mil less than we offered.
I can't see Palace being a better prospect than us either. All records go eventually and fat Sam looks like he could have pushed it once too often.
Wages apart, the hardest part of selling Burnley is the actual town/location. If Jeff has been in his ear about how good it is here then that shouldn't be a problem.

Wait and see but it would be a shame if we couldn't pull this one out of the hat.

If the story is true, Norwich are happy with Palace's offer as they've accepted it.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:45 pm

Can see us missing out on both snodgrass and Brady.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:49 pm

Tall Paul wrote:If the story is true, Norwich are happy with Palace's offer as they've accepted it.

Could be that they are willing to offer more up front, appearances etc. than we are.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:51 pm

Spijed wrote:Could be that they are willing to offer more up front, appearances etc. than we are.

Wasn't our offer being reported as £10m + £3m?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:56 pm

Our offer was apparently £8m x £2m -£6m + installments of £500,000 over thirteen months.

Norwich still working out if its more or less than the Palace bid.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:02 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Our offer was apparently £8m x £2m -£6m + installments of £500,000 over thirteen months.

Norwich still working out if its more or less than the Palace bid.

In fairness, they have the advantage in Norwich that they won't run out of fingers to count on

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:04 pm

Braindead wrote:Because as soon as West Ham and Middlesbrough match our bid, which they will, it's bye bye Snodgrass and we have lost out on both our targets.

I hadn't realised you were our main negotiator braindead. That's a positive having you on the board. The negative is you giving up so quickly on potential deals.

Makes me wonder how on earth we ever got Defour and Hendrick.

ShabbaRanks · Post by **ShabbaRanks** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:09 pm

Nicko suggesting that there's an element of gamesmanship around the Snodgrass bid as he thinks we know we won't get near his wage demands.

Think the implication is that we want to smoke Norwich out re Brady for want of a better description.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:14 pm

ShabbaRanks wrote:Nicko suggesting that there's an element of gamesmanship around the Snodgrass bid as he thinks we know we won't get near his wage demands.

Think the implication is that we want to smoke Norwich out re Brady for want of a better description.

I don't see how that would work, Norwich looked like they were always going to sell Brady they were just waiting for the right price. I don't see how Palace have had a bid accepted at £4M less than our reported bid (The Irish agent fella did say the problem with our bids was not enough cash upfront, similar to the Stephens fiasco). Why do Palace need him when they just bought Schlupp? I don't buy it and the reporter is probably making up stories again.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:18 pm

Trying to outsmoke Delia will be really quite something

ShabbaRanks · Post by **ShabbaRanks** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:27 pm

No idea.

Maybe we've pi55ed yet another club off with insultingly low offers and they're selling to the first club that gives them the money that they wanted up front all along.

Norwich were after Sako apparently, Maybe there's been a gentlemans agreement for Palace to structure the deals in a way that makes it favourable to Norwich.

Schlupp's predominantly a LB (Was a Striker IIRC) and Brady is a LM so maybe they want the entire Left Side strengthening, particularly if there's something in the Townsend to Newcastle rumours.

All sorts of nuances that we just aren't privy to - and yet again, there's the usual suspects in this thread presenting their opinions as fact.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:28 pm

The Irish chap Spice refers to has also made clear that Brady has family ties in London which always made Palace a possibility.

ShabbaRanks · Post by **ShabbaRanks** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:31 pm

A possibility, sure. Absolutely not:

ClaretTony wrote:We've offered more than that but that's his preferred choice

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We've offered more than that but that's his preferred choice

Clearly wants a third relegation on his CV.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:43 pm

Do we need Brady?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We've offered more than that but that's his preferred choice

So why hasn't our bid been accepted? I don't understand how the players choice would mean the selling club will take £4M less.