Bamford on time on Burnley

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Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by TomtheClaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:49 am

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Saxoman » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:52 am

Sounds a bit of a loner.. :?

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:53 am

What 99% of Burnley fans knew.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:57 am

Some Boro melt wrote:Bamford's dejection became clear when Boro visited Turf Moor last month in the Premier League.

He had been left out of the Clarets' squad again, and after the final whistle, he was briefly reunited with Aitor Karanka. His message to the Spaniard was clear: "Please save me".

After a friendly hug and a warm grin from Karanka, Bamford knew things would improve. With Chelsea ready to terminate his loan spell, he could finally be heading back to Teesside.
They should invite him onto Loose Women.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:57 am

Do feel a little sorry for him tbh.
As he said Dyche like to stick with the players and he was never going to get any game time here.

Interesting about Vossen tho. Was he still here when we signed Bamford?

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Archer » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:59 am

wilks_bfc wrote:Do feel a little sorry for him tbh.
As he said Dyche like to stick with the players and he was never going to get any game time here.

Interesting about Vossen tho. Was he still here when we signed Bamford?
Defour and Hendrick weren't in their cars crying after signing? Total rubbish - not good enough player and not right attitude, hence not breaking into the side.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:59 am

I didn't have anything against Bamford but he comes across as feeling sorry for himself whenever I hear him. Had he applied himself and proven himself a valuable member of our squad I'm sure he'd have got a chance. He obviously didn't do that. Time will tell whether he proves himself at this level but I doubt he will.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Sidney1st » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:59 am

Nice to see he's got ambition etc, but can anyone really see him playing up front for Boro regularly this season?

Boro fans reckon he will play on the flank more then anywhere else.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by BennyD » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:03 am

if SD didn't want to keep him, that's reason enough for me.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by TVC15 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:05 am

Did he cry when he was at Norwich and Palace aswell and couldn't get a game ?

Patrick if you've got issues

Here's a box of tissues
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by TomtheClaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:06 am

"He cried in his car, he cried in his car, Patrick Bamford, he cried in his car"
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by TomtheClaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:07 am

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:07 am

Is that the second verse?
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:08 am

Didn't get much of a chance but didn't look like a grafter to me when he did come on. Won't get into a Dyche team without the hard work. Probably been spoon fed too early and set expectations too high.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:08 am

There was someone being interviewed on the telly about him a couple of weeks ago. They said they had watched him train, not with the Clarets, and he was bone idle. They said they wanted to go and have a chat with him, and explain that he was wasting his career with his attitude.
I have no axe to grind, I hope he finds his feet. I was chuffed when we signed him, but it wasn't to be. Despite that one great year he had at Boro, I'd be surprised if going back was his best move, then again it might well have been his only option.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:14 am

Sounds like a bit of fault on both sides, but the impression i get of Bamford - both from that and previous reports and comments of previous loan managers - is he's a bit high maintainence and a bit prone to sulking if things arent going his way.

The comment about Dyche's reputation, although to be treated with caution coming as it does from someone rather jilted - is a bit of a concern. Its not a reputation which is good news and it does ring a bit true from the way he's used - or not used - loans in particular.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:14 am

It's not the crying in the car that I felt sorry for (he needs to man up with being in strange places if he wants to be a successful footballer) it's the circumstances of him being here.

I'm not saying he is good enough. For me he's one of those "in-between" players that are better than the Championship but not good enough for the Prem.

I get the impression he wasn't a Dyche type signing, but more of a "panic loan" to cover the potential of Gray ban being longer in order to appease some people.

As it was, we changed formation, didn't miss Gray and didn't really need Bamford.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:20 am

wilks_bfc wrote:I get the impression he wasn't a Dyche type signing, but more of a "panic loan" to cover the potential of Gray ban being longer in order to appease some people.

As it was, we changed formation, didn't miss Gray and didn't really need Bamford.
We were close to getting him on loan in January 2014 but with the signing almost done he opted to go to Derby where he had a better goalscoring record than Middlesbrough.

I believe that he would have played had he been up to it. That's three managers now who have failed to give him game time in the Premier League, let's see what the fourth one does.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Heathclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:20 am

I don't really know much about Bamford, and I hope he has a fulfilling life, but that piece, to me, is full of self pity and no self responsibility. I realise it is meant to endear him to the fans, but if that was a Burnley player, it would raise concerns over his mental strength. I read a book, many years ago, about emotional intelligence, very interesting and an insight into a weak mind.
As for not getting game time, if he was head and shoulders above our other strikers, I'm sure Dyche would have played him, as it was, something was obviously lacking, and not only when he was at Burnley. Karanka looking in the past, me thinks.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:21 am

wilks_bfc wrote: Interesting about Vossen tho. Was he still here when we signed Bamford?
He's referring to their time at Boro.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:24 am

minnieclaret wrote:He's referring to their time at Boro.

Yes I know he was. I meant was Vossen still here when Bamford signing as he may have though "at least I know someone there"

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:28 am

No, Vossen signed at the start of our 15/16 EFL season.

Bamford signed at the start of the 16/17 EPL season.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:33 am

He has had a lot of loans, like many young players at Chelsea. It appears that feeling at home is very important to him. The permanent transfer will do him good. Our strikers were quicker off the blocks than expected. He was last in line. We'll have to see if he plays for Boro. Better score quick.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:34 am

Very few of our loan signings come off, for whatever reason.
The only reason to take a player on loan is
a with a view to buy
b to improve the starting XI

We seem to have had so many over the last few years that are only bench warmers, what's the point. I exclude Flannigan as he was on his way back from injury and we couldn't have been 100% sure of what we were getting. The rest of them might as well have been gathering dust at their parent clubs.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:35 am

Sounds like Boro have signed him now because they felt sorry for him.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:38 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:No, Vossen signed at the start of our 15/16 EFL season.

Bamford signed at the start of the 16/17 EPL season.

Oh yeh. Of course he did. :lol:

Seasons merging into one for some reason

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Malton_Claret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:44 am

Obviously X thousands a month is no compensation. He wants to see what a proper job is like if he cries in his car after training!!
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:48 am

It's a Boro newspaper making out life is perfect around there and they have saved Bamfords career.

It's an article wrote for Boro fans to fell good about their club.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by IndigoLake » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:50 am

I know Dyche likes to stick with players but Bamford probably just wasn't doing enough to impress Dyche in training. I get the impression that he felt he deserved to play before he'd arrived when in reality, he had to earn that chance with us.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:52 am

Strange one as he comes from Grantham. Signed for Chelsea from Forest and has been on loan to the NE, NW, and Norfolk. So he's actually spent more time away from "Home" than he has there.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Lord Beamish » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:52 am

Sounds like a bit of a Jessie. Not made of the right stuff for a Sean Dyche Team.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:55 am

If he'd have wanted to return to Middlesbrough so much, he'd have re-signed for them instead of going to Crystal Palace.

Total ******** article. He's simply not as good as our other strikers.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:59 am

Getting in your car and bursting into tears after a Burnley game is nothing new,I did it all the time during the 80s :)
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:04 pm

You rotten lot.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by HollandsPies » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:13 pm

Comes from a stinkingly rich wider family. Nottingham High School? Bet he looks down his nose at everybody.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by summitclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:21 pm

I think it all went wrong when he took Scott's guitar and started singing cry me a river, after the wba game on the team bus.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:26 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Sounds like a bit of a Jessie. Not made of the right stuff for a Sean Dyche Team.
I wouldn't have used such harsh language but basically I agree. Definitely gives the impression of a player who needs cuddles and constant re-assurance to keep him happy. While I'm fairly sure SD can motivate and encourage I don't really see the gaffer as a hearts, flowers and the occasional cuddly toy gift type boss. I think he would have done well under Coyle; his constant streams of bullshit would have been just what Bamford would have reacted positively to.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by TVC15 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:30 pm

He cries when he wants
He cries when he wants
Poor little Paddy Bamford...
He cries when he wants

All together now....!!

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:30 pm

Bamford will eventually turn out to be a good championship player and nothing more I think.

I also think it's fair to say Sean Dyche wants men in his team and not self-absorbed little boys, so it's no wonder he couldn't get a look in.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:40 pm

Why give him such a hard time? He barely had a chance at Burnley. I wish him well. A case of inverted snobbery from some posters on here.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by agreenwood » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:45 pm

Shithouse.
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Post by Pearcey » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:53 pm

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:55 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Why give him such a hard time? He barely had a chance at Burnley. I wish him well. A case of inverted snobbery from some posters on here.
He barely had a chance? He has spent the last 6 months training every day with the first team, if he had really been busting a gut on the training ground and proving to the management team they were missing a trick not playing him do you really think he wouldn't have got a game? Maybe not, but I personally think its far more likely he came with the big I am attitude and just went through the motions and did not go all out to impress.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by TVC15 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:56 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Why give him such a hard time? He barely had a chance at Burnley. I wish him well. A case of inverted snobbery from some posters on here.
Good on you

Just because he did not get in the team does not mean he did not get a chance. He got a chance every day to show what he could do in training and in development games and he was not up to it.

No inverted snobbery at all - he was on a reported £30k a week and this is third team in a row where he has not performed on loan. Sounds like he's begged Boro to sign him and Karanka has fallen for it.

I hope he does as well at Boro as he has done at Burnley, Norwich and Palace.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by dermotdermot » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:44 pm

agreenwood wrote:Shithouse.
You have such a way with words.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:46 pm

Cried in his car soft bigger. Reminds me when Ashley Cole wrote in his autobiography that when his agent rang him to say Arsenal were only offering him 60 grand a week he was so insulted he crashed his Porche.
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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by claretblue » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:20 pm

bfcjg wrote:Cried in his car soft bigger. Reminds me when Ashley Cole wrote in his autobiography that when his agent rang him to say Arsenal were only offering him 60 grand a week he was so insulted he crashed his Porche.
:lol:

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:26 pm

purely on a footballing point, he missed an absolute sitter yesterday, based on that alone, glad we got shot of him.

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by NRC » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:33 pm

As a player don't you agree to any given loan? In which case he makes the point himself regarding SD, so why agree in the first place?

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Re: Bamford on time on Burnley

Post by gawthorpe_view » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:40 pm

Nailed on to score against us the next time we meet!

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