Sequels better than first films

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:25 pm

The thread on T2 got me thinking about this. Usually sequels are inferior crap, but are there exceptions to the rule? For example, I think The Empire Strikes Back is better than Star Wars. Any others?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:26 pm

Terminator 2 end thread cheers.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:27 pm

Godfather 2

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:29 pm

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Better than Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Superman II better than Superman I ('The Movie')

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:31 pm

Rita, Sue and Bob 2 was miles better than the original Rita, Sue and Bob

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:31 pm

Bill & Teds Bogus Journey is better then Excellent Adventure.

From the looks of it, John Wick 2 could be better then the first one and that was an excellent film.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:32 pm

Another vote for the original T2...

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:35 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Rita, Sue and Bob 2 was miles better than the original Rita, Sue and Bob

I always think I was great!

djt2006 · Post by **djt2006** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:36 pm

Gremlins 2

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:39 pm

jdrobbo wrote:Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Better than Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Where's the winking smiley face?

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:39 pm

The Dark Knight & Evil Dead 2

CHEWBACCA · Post by **CHEWBACCA** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:41 pm

rocky 2 was better than 1,rocky 3 was better than 2,rocky 4 was better than 3.. then it all went downhill .

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:42 pm

There aren't any. There are a number that are as good or possibly explore a slightly different theme from the original but sequels are usually inferior because what made the original worth making a sequel is not quite the same in the sequel.

Empire is perhaps a more satisfying film than Star Wars but is it really better? Hmmm. Ok. it's the exception that proves the rule

T2 is nowhere near a better film than the first. Better effects yep, Better film? Nonsense.

Godfather 2 is a great film that expands the world of the Corleone family and that makes it as good as the first. not better though.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:44 pm

What about Honey I Shrunk the Kids, please dont tell me you think 1 is anywhere near the quality of the sequel?

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:46 pm

Believe there's a sequel coming out to The Brady Bunch movie.

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:53 pm

Toy story 2

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:02 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Terminator 2 end thread cheers.

Maybe if your a spotty 14 year old sci fi geek creaming yourself at revolutionary new special effects(at the time). The original was far superior in my book as a film, T2 is a comedy..

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:05 pm

YOU'VE SUSSED MY OUT YOU MARVELLOUS HORSE RAPING ****!

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:09 pm

Sarah Connor..?.. Yes..? Blam blam blam blam.. Hauntingly cold..

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:11 pm

Ah - good shout on Toy Story 2 although I'd put it in the "as good as" category. Toy Story breaks through the boundary. the sequel then explores a bit more.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:15 pm

oh - the horse raper is correct. Terminator is a classic piece of cinema that uses Arnie's delivery in a brilliant way. Making him the hero (simply because he's gone past the threshold of playing bit parts/odd parts and had to be the lead draw) was a bad move because it lost the cold darkness that made the first one so good.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:21 pm

The scene in tech noir where hes reloading standing above the prone Sarah Connor. Scary..

Yep, terminator is brilliant.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:22 pm

Empire Strikes Back.

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:24 pm

Saxoman wrote:Sarah Connor..?.. Yes..? Blam blam blam blam.. Hauntingly cold..

Just for you Saxo. Ok and me

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:31 pm

The Bride of Frankenstein

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:32 pm

john'sroseyspecs wrote:Just for you Saxo. Ok and me

Nah, that's from T2.. Preffered the slightly chubby Sarah Connor in the original..

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:33 pm

For a Few Dollars More

From Russia With Love

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:34 pm

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:01 pm

Dyches second promotion DVD

Dyches second PL season review DVD

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:45 pm

Superman 2

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:53 pm

LOTR - The Two towers

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 10:55 pm

Agree with Terminator 2 and Empire Strikes Back.

My choice might be controversial...Aliens.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:05 pm

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:07 pm

Lethal weapon 2
Die hard 2 (the one at the airport)

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:10 pm

Burnley in the premier league under Coyle.

Burnley in the premier league under Dyche 2.0.....

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:15 pm

Best of the Back-Door Bangers 2 was better than BotBDB 1.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:41 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:LOTR - The Two towers

Seconded. I adore all of those films but the pacing in FotR was all over the place. It's still close to masterpiece category (for me at least) but The Two Towers is better in almost every way.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:48 pm

slop the lot of them, bloody rocky for god's sake . mainstream , formulaic pap, american dross.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:51 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:slop the lot of them, bloody rocky for god's sake . mainstream , formulaic pap, american dross.

Mr obscure has spoken.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:55 pm

Star Trek II

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:04 am

Saxoman wrote:Mr obscure has spoken.

never seen that one saxo, i cannot recall the original "mr obscure" movie.

did you sit through it with your giant sugary drink, and big box of popcorn like you were told too.

those meercat ads must keep you happy for days on end.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:15 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:never seen that one saxo, i cannot recall the original "mr obscure" movie.

did you sit through it with your giant sugary drink, and big box of popcorn like you were told too.

those meercat ads must keep you happy for days on end.

You want to be different for the sake of it and pretend things are good that are really just pap, then go right ahead.. I'll go with what I know is good from popularity.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:25 am

Saxoman wrote:You want to be different for the sake of it and pretend things are good that are really just pap, then go right ahead.. I'll go with what I know is good from popularity.

no, you'll watch anything, animated singing pigs, cartoon lions on rocks, squawking bog eyed characters, and predictably accompanied by some dirge musical soundtrack. Your type cannot stray to far from the herd, far too dangerous.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:26 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:no, you'll watch anything, animated singing pigs, cartoon lions on rocks, squawking bog eyed characters, and predictably accompanied by some dirge musical soundtrack. Your type cannot stray to far from the herd, far too dangerous.

Is it you with the 'john peel' music taste? Can't remember now..

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:29 am

:s:

Wile E Coyote wrote:no, you'll watch anything, animated singing pigs, cartoon lions on rocks, squawking bog eyed characters, and predictably accompanied by some dirge musical soundtrack. Your type cannot stray to far from the herd, far too dangerous.

Not true. I think 'trainspotting' is one of the most overrated films ever. Utter poo in fact..

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:33 am

Hey up the Coyote is having one of his funny episodes again.

This time he's getting on one about animated films for children.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:38 am

Saxo and Wile E go head to head. A real clash of this messageboard's intellectual big-hitters. It's going to be like Gore Vidal and William F Buckley Jr, slugging it out for dominance.

Hang on to your hats, kids!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:42 am

Now you're in for it Beamish.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:42 am

presumably by the time any daft f***** gets down to this bit, they'll have realised that Bin. Thanks though for the mindnumbingly simplistic second line of your ill thought out post. maybe you and saxo can share a back row seat sometime soon.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:47 am

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