• Joey Barton's Hearing.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:47 pm**

Does anybody know when Joey's hearing is ? Thought it was scheduled for today ?

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:48 pm**

Not sure about his hearing but his vision was fine last night.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:49 pm**

I thought it was 31st jan

I bet that hes got a bet on betting he will get out of it

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:54 pm**

Did anyone else have an image of a hearing aid in their mind when they saw the title of this thread?

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:01 pm**

Yep!!!

Hoping he gets lucky. Let's hope mike dean is on the panel, as he tends to cut people a little slack.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:08 pm**

cutsy123 wrote:I thought it was 31st jan

I bet that hes got a bet on betting he will get out of it

31st was the deadline for the submission, not the hearing. At least that's what I thought anyway.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:12 pm**

and hopefully his submission is of biblical proportions and will take a firm of lawyers 6 months to get through

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:15 pm**

Does he have the tv on too loud next door to you?

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:51 pm**

Is there a precedent for what he is being accused of?

If so what was the outcome?

It's probably been covered on another thread somewhere but I don't read everything.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:07 pm**

I did some research a while back and there was a big range.

From a large fine to a 4 month ban.

I am hoping for a fine/ban conbination hopfully for say 4 games, but there was real clue in previous events

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:14 pm**

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:18 pm**

I am hoping they dont give him the four month ban.

Can I see the FA just giving him a fine, absolutely not. hence what I am hoping for.

Watchng tv and typing means it does not always make full sense sorry

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:24 pm**

I knew what you meant.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:24 pm**

No doubt be treated more harshly than an ex England manager advising how to get around FA rules or a prominent Premier League manager man handling an official during a game.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:36 pm**

Did fat Sam not get sacked?

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:38 pm**

Yeah he was sacked, but got his pay off for being booted and has a new job......

So not really a punishment

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:39 pm**

They can't sack him. Dyche said so.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:42 pm**

The big toad didn't actually break any rules, I had/have a degree of sympathy for the dodgy fat sex act.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:58 pm**

They HAVE to give him,a TYPE OF WENGER BAN,NO MORE THAN FOUR GAMES,IF their is any Phil Bird,JUSTICE! I hope anyway!

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:01 pm**

Surely there must be rules in a contract that you need to behave in a certain way. BFS shouldn't have been paid off.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:06 pm**

I'd be happy with a fine and a two month ban beginning 31st May.

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:11 pm**

Maybe Darikwa could serve the punishment for him, perhaps?

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:17 pm**

Diesel wrote:The big toad didn't actually break any rules, I had/have a degree of sympathy for the dodgy fat sex act.

Dodgy fat sex act?

I'm guilty of a few of them...

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:45 pm**

The 4 month ban that other lad got had 3 of the months suspended (so he only served a 1 month ban)

Given its Barton though and I think he's accused of placing quite a lot of bets they might throw the book at him (pun alert) if found guilty

Posted: **Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:58 pm**

4 month ban would be OK as long as it starts on 14th May. He would get a nice long preseason then.

Unless we are in the Cup Final of course.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:40 am**

Given how he is playing any ban would be seriously detrimental to us.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:41 am**

Mohamed 69, how is the humble pie

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:55 am**

When can we expect the FA announcement? Suspect it's not going to be good news.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:46 pm**

We usually get punished for things that are nothing to do with our club. Whatever happens he has been fabulous for us

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:52 pm**

Wasn't there talk of Joey requesting a personal hearing which would drag it out further?

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:59 pm**

Barton will certainly request a personal hearing, and assuming there is some grey area within the rules from pre 2014 (and my understanding is there is), I suspect the date of any hearing is some time into the future, and any appeal by Barton if he gets a lengthy ban could quite easily delay it further. I certainly think he'll get a few more games in for us yet.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:02 pm**

"and hopefully his submission is of biblical proportions and will take a firm of lawyers 6 months to get through"

If they gave Joey a dictaphone to give his explanation it would take the best part of five years to type it.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:07 pm**

claretspice wrote:Barton will certainly request a personal hearing, and assuming there is some grey area within the rules from pre 2014 (and my understanding is there is), I suspect the date of any hearing is some time into the future, and any appeal by Barton if he gets a lengthy ban could quite easily delay it further. I certainly think he'll get a few more games in for us yet.

I'm sure all this would've been worked through when we gave him a contract to the end of the season. Wouldn't have been much point if we only going to get a month out of him.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:11 pm**

If we can get another 4 or 5 games out of Barton we should be safe. This fella has been a sensation playing in Claret and blue

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:12 pm**

If we can get another 4 or 5 games out of Barton we should be safe. This fella has been a sensation playing in Claret and blue

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:16 pm**

LoveCurryPies wrote:When can we expect the FA announcement? Suspect it's not going to be good news.

He only responded yesterday so if he's asked for a personal hearing they will have to arrange that first.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:22 pm**

under eu law you can not be legally stopped from gambling on any out come unless it is reasonably believed you have insider knowledge ie that someone is going to do something that will aid you getting the right result. Or that the job you do gives you insider knowledge, but under brexit it all becomes a bit different, bit like tax, tax man does not have to prove you owe tax you have to prove how much you pay. So its all down to when Brexit is started

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:47 pm**

pureclaret wrote:under eu law you can not be legally stopped from gambling on any out come unless it is reasonably believed you have insider knowledge ie that someone is going to do something that will aid you getting the right result. Or that the job you do gives you insider knowledge, but under brexit it all becomes a bit different, bit like tax, tax man does not have to prove you owe tax you have to prove how much you pay. So its all down to when Brexit is started

But the offence took place while under EU law

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:52 pm**

ClaretTony wrote:He only responded yesterday so if he's asked for a personal hearing they will have to arrange that first.

And the next challenge will be to get Barton's legal representatives, and the legal guys on the tribunal, all in the room at the same time.

As I understand it, this is the sort of disciplinary tribunal that was put together to hear the Ro Ferdinand doping case, which did I think take some time.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:09 pm**

Brexit has nowt to do with it. We will be in the EU for the next 2 years, at least.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:22 pm**

Do we know if he actually profited from any of these bets? Also, I read somewhere that most of these bets were Accumulators. These factors don't really help with the prosecutions argument that he might have had insider knowledge on the outcomes of some of these fixtures.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:29 pm**

Hopefully this will ride out the season and they can convene thereafter. All the documents he has submitted will need to be gone over by their legal folk and questions raised etc...and answered, all in good time, before any hearing, I would hope. Look how long it took the lawyers over Danny Ings! (Have they paid?)

Fingers crossed.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:30 pm**

the problem will be a mighty one if it's proven he placed bets on games he was involved in

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:32 pm**

News coming out that he's accepted the charge but he has asked for a personal hearing.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:37 pm**

Has he been given odds for the outcome?

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:39 pm**

ClaretTony wrote:News coming out that he's accepted the charge but he has asked for a personal hearing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... -requests/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:40 pm**

I think that I read somewhere that a lot of the bets are accumulator bets, each one being classed as a separate bet.

If I were him, I would be instructing solicitors against the betting company as though he has broken rules of a professional body, he has broken no laws. Is he not entitled to confidentiality as a client of the betting company?

Why did the company not bring this to light after the first bet?

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:13 pm**

pureclaret wrote:under eu law you can not be legally stopped from gambling on any out come unless it is reasonably believed you have insider knowledge ie that someone is going to do something that will aid you getting the right result. Or that the job you do gives you insider knowledge, but under brexit it all becomes a bit different, bit like tax, tax man does not have to prove you owe tax you have to prove how much you pay. So its all down to when Brexit is started

No-one's told the Jockey Club. Jockey aren't allowed to bet on horse racing full stop.

Posted: **Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:44 pm**

pureclaret wrote:under eu law you can not be legally stopped from gambling on any out come unless it is reasonably believed you have insider knowledge ie that someone is going to do something that will aid you getting the right result. Or that the job you do gives you insider knowledge, but under brexit it all becomes a bit different, bit like tax, tax man does not have to prove you owe tax you have to prove how much you pay. So its all down to when Brexit is started

No one's accusing him of breaking the law, he's done nothing illegal. He's accused of breaking the rules relating to his profession.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:13 am**

accepted misconduct charge but requests personal hearing . (sky news )

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