Team v Watford

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:52 pm

What you reckon guys same as against Leicester or a debut for one or both our new signings,personally can't see either starting.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:56 pm

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Hendrick Barton Brady
Barnes Gray

Assuming Defour isn't fit.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:58 pm

Forgot Defour,what was the injury DC? went straight to the dressing room after he came off and looked pretty ****** off as he went past the CFS.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:00 pm

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Barton Hendrick Arfield
Barnes Gray

Subs: Robinson Flanagan Tarkowski Westwood Gudmundsson Brady Vokes

I'd imagine both new signings will start on the bench given the relatively little time they'll have had to integrate.

Having said that Westwood may be drafted in for an early debut as both Defour and Hendrick left the field with injuries last night.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:01 pm

Difficult to drop Arfield after last night. Brady and Westwood on the bench.

Heaton

Lowton
Keane
Mee
Ward

Arfield
Barton
Hendrick
Boyd

Barnes
Gray

Robinson
Tarks
Flanagan
Brady
Westwood
Vokes
JBG

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:08 pm

Same as against Leicester but if Defour isn't fit then I think
Dyche will probably start with Arfield and possibly bring on Brady
sometime in the second half.
The only other possible change is to start Vokes instead of Barnes
if he thinks Vokes might be a bigger threat to their defence.
Vokes is also a much better defender especially at corners.

Just hope we can get that away record monkey off our backs
as the longer it continues the more pressure we'll be under.

A win would just about guarantee us staying up.
Certainly the bookies might even stop any odds on us going down.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:08 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Forgot Defour,what was the injury DC? went straight to the dressing room after he came off and looked pretty ****** off as he went past the CFS.

Appeared to be his groin that was the issue.

He doesn't often look happy though

colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:29 pm

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Hendrick Barton Brady
Gray Barnes

Pope
Flanagan
Tarkowski
Arfield
Westwood
Gudmundsson
Vokes

Assuming Defour isn't fit. Think Arfield would get the nod ahead of Brady at the moment though.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:47 pm

Heaton
Lowton keane mee ward
JBG Barton Westwood Hendrick
Barnes Gray

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:53 pm

Defour looked like a muscle injury so will be out for a week or two I should think. If that is the case I would throw Brady straight into the team, this is a game where we should look to get straight at them and nick an early goal.

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Barton Hendrick Brady
Gray Barnes

Robinson Tarkowski Darikwa Westwood Arfield Gudmundsson Vokes

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:54 pm

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
JBG Barton Hendrick Brady
Gray Barnes
(Our Best team imo)

think only change will be defour out arfield in though

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:54 pm

Interesting quandary once we have Defour, Hendrick and Barton fit. Presuming Brady earns his place in the next few weeks (and with the option of Westwood) there's a good but difficult choice to be made.

Maybe a four of Hendrick, Barton, Defour and Brady.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:13 pm

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Hendrick Barton Brady
Barnes Gray

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:20 pm

Same as Jedi and MDWat for me too. Brady is our record signing for a reason and must start.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:53 am

Nice dilemma for the gaffa!

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:16 am

I would say that Brady would have to be checked out as being Dyche fit first and learning the set up before being thrown in at the deep end, bet he is ****** he won't get the Cup winners medal, though he will get to play in Europe next season

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:53 pm

Same as Tuesday, with Arfield (as good as Barton or Hendrick on Tuesday night for my money) replacing for Defour.

That team worked well on Tuesday, so it deserves another run. Westwood and Brady will add to probably the best bench Burnley have ever put out.

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:09 pm

Arfield ran into trouble / tackles on numerous times on Tuesday. I like him but he is struggling with the tempo of the PL.

Brady is used to playing with Hendrick and Ward and he would be in my starting lineup.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:13 pm

Mala591 wrote:Arfield ran into trouble / tackles on numerous times on Tuesday. I like him but he is struggling with the tempo of the PL.

Brady is used to playing with Hendrick and Ward and he would be in my starting lineup.

Arfield got dispossessed a couple of times, that's the price of trying to make things happen sometimes. The important thing is that he was brave on the ball and willing to risk making a mistake. He gave us control in midfield, carried the ball and used it with composure. Terrific performance and he had absolutely no problem with the tempo of the game.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:30 pm

No brainer barring injuries

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Hendrick Barton Brady
Barnes Gray

Above can win at Watford

TheDon · Post by **TheDon** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:02 pm

Have to start your best team and I think Brady and gudmundsson are our best wingers.

Can't see Dyche dropping Boyd or Arfield though.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:36 pm

FCBurnley wrote:No brainer barring injuries

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Hendrick Barton Brady
Barnes Gray

Above can win at Watford

Very good call I would say .

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:37 pm

I think it will be the team DCWat and MDWat and many others have picked with Brady for Defour. However I'd put JBG in as well in place of Boyd.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:45 pm

TheDon wrote:Have to start your best team and I think Brady and gudmundsson are our best wingers.

Can't see Dyche dropping Boyd or Arfield though.

I don't always agree with Dyche - I wanted Gray back in the team well before he was reinstated in the autumn, for example, but I don't understand this. Dyche picks the likes of Arfield and Boyd because they're integral to the way he wants the team to play.

PWBFC · Post by **PWBFC** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:02 pm

claretspice wrote:I don't always agree with Dyche - I wanted Gray back in the team well before he was reinstated in the autumn, for example, but I don't understand this. Dyche picks the likes of Arfield and Boyd because they're integral to the way he wants the team to play.

Presumably he thinks Brady can also be integral to the way we want to play?

I would certainly have Brady in for Defour. The fact he picked Defour ahead of Arfield in the first place speaks volumes.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:03 pm

I think it will be the team that played the most part of Tuesday with both Brady & Westwood on the bench

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think it will be the team that played the most part of Tuesday with both Brady & Westwood on the bench

I agree. Can't drop anybody after that 2nd half display.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:12 pm

PWBFC wrote:The fact he picked Defour ahead of Arfield in the first place speaks volumes.

he didn't though.

arfield got injured at sunderland but he was in the team before that. arfield's only just come back and defour had been playing well enough to keep his place.

i'd be surprised if arfield doesn't start on saturday as that tends to be how dyche works. although i'd be equally unsurprised if brady started instead.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:25 pm

Defour ruled out with hamstring anyway

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:51 pm

Defour could be out for quite a while according to Dyche today.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:53 pm

DCWat wrote:Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Hendrick Barton Brady
Barnes Gray

Assuming Defour isn't fit.

Nailed it. End of discussion.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:02 pm

Never thought I'd see the day when we make a record signing for £13m (who is fit and good to go) and there's a possibility he might start on the bench.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:06 pm

It's a game we need to get a result preferably a win so
if that what's Dyche is aiming for then I'd start with Brady
as he's the surprise factor and will hopefully be up for it.
If Dyche is playing safe and wishes to avoid defeat he might start with Arfield.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:19 pm

Think Arfield and Boyd will start with Brady and JBG on bench. Nice position to be in and up to Arfield and Boyd to show they are good enough to start.

vinrogue · Post by **vinrogue** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:20 pm

I think he may revert to a 4 5 1 if the fitness stats on Westwood and Brady are good. Certainly Hendrick and Barton can operate together and just maybe a bit of Irish magic is what is needed for the points?

Heaton

Lowton, Keane, Mee, Ward

Boyd, Barton, Westwood, Hendrick, Brady

Vokes

PWBFC · Post by **PWBFC** » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:57 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:he didn't though.

arfield got injured at sunderland but he was in the team before that. arfield's only just come back and defour had been playing well enough to keep his place.

i'd be surprised if arfield doesn't start on saturday as that tends to be how dyche works. although i'd be equally unsurprised if brady started instead.

Yes he did, Arfield started against Bristol City and then left out against Leicester.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Arfield did start at Watford but it's clear he's no longer the automatic first choice that he once was.

Dano1bfc · Post by **Dano1bfc** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:10 am

Anybody else worried more about Marneys injury than Defours?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:12 am

vinrogue wrote:I think he may revert to a 4 5 1 if the fitness stats on Westwood and Brady are good. Certainly Hendrick and Barton can operate together and just maybe a bit of Irish magic is what is needed for the points?

Heaton

Lowton, Keane, Mee, Ward

Boyd, Barton, Westwood, Hendrick, Brady

Vokes

4-5-1 has been a total disaster away from home so I doubt Dyche will touch that formation with a barge pole.

He'll go 4-4-2 as it's worked well against Spurs, Man City & Arsenal.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:12 am

PWBFC wrote:Yes he did, Arfield started against Bristol City and then left out against Leicester.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Arfield did start at Watford but it's clear he's no longer the automatic first choice that he once was.

Bristol city was a cup game, we changed half the team.

Arfield hasn't been an automatic first choice all season but the way dyche tends to work is that it's a players shirt to lose. Arfield did enough on Tuesday to take the shirt in defours absence.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:56 am

dunno what the debate is, we all know Tarks can play anywhere, in fact, just play Tarks on his own and we will win 3-0

silvio_claret · Post by **silvio_claret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:35 am

Same as FCBurnley tough game but we need to pick up something from these type of games UTC.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:41 am

Good SD has the choices he has!
It's what he's paid for.
Whatever starting 11 he picks will do me, though would like to see Brady at some point.
Been a long, long while since our squad quality came even close to what it is now.

ClaretAndBlue94 · Post by **ClaretAndBlue94** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:47 am

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Hendrick Barton Brady
Barnes Gray

Wouldn't be at all suprised if Arfield starts, however after a week training with the club, I expect Sean to start his record signing.

Also cannot imagine Westwood will be starting, well, until Barton gets banned

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:52 am

I think SD will go with what's tried and tested:

Heaton,
Lowton, Keane, Mee, Ward
Boyd, Barton, Hendrick, Arfield
Gray, barnes

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:59 am

ClaretAndBlue94 wrote: Wouldn't be at all suprised if Arfield starts, however after a week training with the club, I expect Sean to start his record signing.

Brady joined on Tuesday. As we played that night, I assume Wednesday was a day off or very light debrief day. That leaves Thursday and today, both of which I assume will have been spent more on specific planning than Saturday rather than any pattern work to enable Brady to get used to the way we operate.

Which is another very good reason why I'd be surprised if Brady starts.

ClaretAndBlue94 · Post by **ClaretAndBlue94** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:05 pm

claretspice wrote:Brady joined on Tuesday. As we played that night, I assume Wednesday was a day off or very light debrief day. That leaves Thursday and today, both of which I assume will have been spent more on specific planning than Saturday rather than any pattern work to enable Brady to get used to the way we operate.

Which is another very good reason why I'd be surprised if Brady starts.

Had totally forgotten we played Tuesday and not at the weekend.

Disregard my point, would be massively surprised if Brady starts on 2 days of training max.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:35 pm

As magnificent as our home record is, away from home, apart from battling displays in the last 3 or 4 games, NEVER have we looked like winning a game. Simply put, in my opinion, this can be put down solely to our lack of pace. The team should be flying in confidence so let`s go for it. The games are incredibly winnable.

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
Boyd Hendrick Barton Brady
Barnes Gray

p.s. Dyche won`t start Brady, he will start Arfield

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:41 pm

I think we need at least one of JBG or Brady to start, just for the pace so we can counterattack.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:14 pm

For me, I'd have Westwood and Brady to start on the bench and earn their starting spot.

Flat Stanley · Post by **Flat Stanley** » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:22 pm

Heaton
Lowton Keane Mee Ward
JGB Barton Hendrick Brady
Gray Vokes

That would be my peference assuming Defour is injured. Dyche will probably start Boyd Arfield and Barnes though. If Hendrick is injured Westwood might come straight in.