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Michael Keane

Post by MDWat » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:35 pm

Enjoy him whilst he's here. The bloke is going to play for England for years and years. He's absolutely class.
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Re: Michael Keane

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:40 pm

He's another Cahill. A solid central defender who we know will move on to bigger things.

I must say, he made Robert Brady look about 4 foot 2!
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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Saxoman » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:41 pm

MDWat wrote: The bloke is going to play for England for years and years. He's absolutely crass.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by MrHungry » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:47 pm

FactualFrank wrote:He's another Cahill. A solid central defender who we know will move on to bigger things.

I must say, he made Robert Brady look about 4 foot 2!
And brady made bryan flynn look 3ft 6 :D

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Claretmatt4 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:32 am

On one break away I noticed Ben was shouting at Keane to get over to cover the other striker (think it was Costa) but Keane didn't, leave the both of them back pedaling within a foot of each other.
Ball gets played to the loose man, Mee reads it perfectly, tackles and clears for a throw.

Other than that Keane was superb. Costa won't have many tougher games this season.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:36 am

FactualFrank wrote:He's another Cahill. A solid central defender who we know will move on to bigger things.

I must say, he made Robert Brady look about 4 foot 2!

Not as funny as the Stoke interview with Peter Crouch and Joe Allen.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by MRG » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:14 am

Claretmatt4 wrote:On one break away I noticed Ben was shouting at Keane to get over to cover the other striker (think it was Costa) but Keane didn't, leave the both of them back pedaling within a foot of each other.
Ball gets played to the loose man, Mee reads it perfectly, tackles and clears for a throw.

Other than that Keane was superb. Costa won't have many tougher games this season.
And when he was caught 'square on' for their goal. First time I've seen the usually immense Keane make a couple of mistakes. Interesting these weren't mentioned in the players ratings thread which demonstrates how blinkered we sometimes are. Heaven forbid we critise our golden boy. Amazing player who had a great game however there was a couple of errors

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Mattster » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:21 am

Claretmatt4 wrote:On one break away I noticed Ben was shouting at Keane to get over to cover the other striker (think it was Costa) but Keane didn't, leave the both of them back pedaling within a foot of each other.
Ball gets played to the loose man, Mee reads it perfectly, tackles and clears for a throw.

Other than that Keane was superb. Costa won't have many tougher games this season.
To be fair to Keane, him ignoring Mee was what drove the Chelsea player on the outside which allowed Mee to nip in behind to intercept the layoff. Similar to when Mee got himself in a muddle and lost the ball to Costa, his slide looked like Costa had done him but actually it drove him back at Keane who was covering behind and comfortably blocked the shot. The way we almost close ranks to a back 6 when the opposition reach the penalty area is what allows the centre backs to double up like that.

Keane was caught square for the goal but I don't think any defender on the planet would have been able to do anything differently there and but for a lucky deflection on Moses layoff the ball wouldn't have found Pedro anyway and in fact I think the ball would likely have headed straight to Keane to clear.
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Re: Michael Keane

Post by jdrobbo » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:41 am

Immense talent. If only we could do something to encourage him to stay.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by 1968claret » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:04 am

jdrobbo wrote:Immense talent. If only we could do something to encourage him to stay.
Get the away form sorted and we will soon be in a Champions league spot. Reckon he will stay for aanither season then :)

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by nonayclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:07 am

Bet he's glad he didn't end up at Leicester
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Re: Michael Keane

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:57 am

FactualFrank wrote:He's another Cahill. A solid central defender who we know will move on to bigger things.

I must say, he made Robert Brady look about 4 foot 2!
He looked a few levels above Cahill yesterday - and we really are going to have to stop putting him up for interviews alongside less tall Clarets. At least yesterday's didn't look quite so bad as when they interviewed him and Steven Defour.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:59 am

jdrobbo wrote:Immense talent. If only we could do something to encourage him to stay.
I'm sure we are doing all we can but it will, ultimately, be Michael Keane's choice.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Grimsby Claret » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:49 am

How much is he Worth? How much will the super powers pay for him?

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by taio » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:53 am

If we can secure PL status over the next few weeks we might as well have one last go at getting him to sign an extended contract in the region of £50k a week. Probably unlikely and he'll go in the summer for around £20m, but I'm sure the club will do all it can.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:57 am

After that display I'm sure Conte will be considering a summer bid
Noticed also, in pre match newspaper articles, that Conte was highlighting his knowledge of the positive attributes of Gray.
Given that Costa will be going to the Chinese takeaways in the summer there could be some interest shown with him as well

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:00 am

ClaretTony wrote:He looked a few levels above Cahill yesterday - and we really are going to have to stop putting him up for interviews alongside less tall Clarets. At least yesterday's didn't look quite so bad as when they interviewed him and Steven Defour.
Cahill has been having 'dips' in his form the last couple of years.
MK looks better. And he's had a lot more defending to do. He's going to be amongst the first names in an England squad sooner rather than later.
If/when he goes, l hope we get his worth when you look at what Citeh spent on Stones.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:15 am

Grimsby Claret wrote:How much is he Worth? How much will the super powers pay for him?
Not as much as he would be if Daniel Levy was selling him - that guy can get an amazing price for his club

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by MiltonKeynesClaret93 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:19 am

Encouraging to think we have someone like Tarky to come in if/when Keano goes.
We have some superb defenders.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:17 pm

If/when Keane goes, I'd expect much more than twenty million quid for him.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by taio » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:19 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:If/when Keane goes, I'd expect much more than twenty million quid for him.
You'd like to think so and I do hope so, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got around £20m with just a year left on his contract.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Hantsclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:38 pm

I think one thing in our favour if/when Keane goes, is that there is a strong likelihood of there being an auction for him - I can see 3/4 clubs being interested and some cute negotiating should leave us in a good place!

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by TVC15 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:55 pm

Keane is destined for bigger things - top 6 club....he`d get in United Everton or Liverpool team right now.
City under Pep would ruin him like they did with John Stones.
Spurs would probably bench him initially.
Arsenal under Wenger would probably not buy him after spending so much on Mustafi and giving Koscienly a new contract (personally I think he is better than Mustafi)
Chelsea would be an interesting one - and I think they might be the place he goes. Luiz is playing with a knee injury ; Cahill is getting older and slower. Azpliqueta looks brilliant in a back 3 and right now is a better player than Keane. If they were in the champions league it does not sound like Luiz could play every week and Cahill would be exposed....and I do not think Conte fancies Zouma or Terry.

He`s worth £30m - and as fans we should be glad that we have had the pleasure of him in a Claret shirt.

Ben Mee has been brilliant these last 12 months and I think he is happy to stay at Burnley. Tarks is great cover and certainly looks technically gifted and comfortable on the ball and obviously commanding in the air with his size.

My worry would be that losing Keane we would be exposed for pace. There were a couple of times yesterday (and every other week) where Keane just seems to shift gear when it looks like we are in big trouble. Its this pace that makes Keane a £30m centre back instead of a £10m one. Its why Koscienly is so valuable to Arsenal and its why the likes of Liverpool with a slow Lovren concede too many goals.

Would love him to stay but the opportunity to play in a top 6 team, in Europe and the profile / exposure he would then get to play for England is understandably hard to resist....Le Tissier did it for all those years at Southampton when he had chances to move to bigger clubs but he is the exception and its hard to think of any player who has done this recently when opportunity knocks.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by kaptin1 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:45 pm

Said it before and will say it again ... Keane and Mee = Pallister and Bruce

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:04 pm

jojomk1 wrote:After that display I'm sure Conte will be considering a summer bid
Noticed also, in pre match newspaper articles, that Conte was highlighting his knowledge of the positive attributes of Gray.
Given that Costa will be going to the Chinese takeaways in the summer there could be some interest shown with him as well
As good as Gray is for us, there is no way he would get in Chelseas team. His lack of composure is his biggest flaw. The best teams have strikers that don't even need to think.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:21 pm

Well, Stones cost citeh fifty mil.

Bearing in mind MK is far better, you can calculate his worth, even with a short contract,
because there's going to be superpower clubs falling over each other to get his signature.

But hopefully he stays, of course.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by jurek » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:03 pm

If Keane is to go in the summer and I still believe there may be a chance we keep him
then I don't think we should accept anything less than 25m even though he may only have
one year left on his contract.
Stones cost close to 50m and Keane has the potential to do as well, if not better.
And after a year performing well in the Premier League he's got some experience and
age on his side too. If he continues to improve then he'll be a 40+ million player within another year.

Finding a replacement for him won't be easy either.
You pay 10-15m for a decent Championship player with potential to make it in the Premier League
so 25m minimum for Keane sounds not a bad deal, me thinks.

We could, if we stay up afford to pay him 50k a week without necessarily having to
up every other players' salary to near that mark.

It could be an interesting time during the summer especially if we stay up
in a decent position, which may net us another 10m or so.
We're still likely to be in the black too so we could be, in our terms, quids in
and with a pretty decent amount to spend on new players.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by IndigoLake » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:06 pm

I'm more confident in our ability to replace central defenders than any other position, as long as Dyche is here. He knows what makes a good defender and invariably gets the best out of them.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by HelloHiGoodbye » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:10 pm

I'm amazed City, United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Everton or Barcelona haven't already bid. He's going to be in the England team for yonks and yonks and yonks.

If Dyche stays, he might stay for another season but if I was on the board of any of the above clubs, I'd call Mike Garlick and say name your price.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by summitclaret » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:14 pm

We already have the replacement thanks to good planning. We need to sign the next young un for the the production line and an experienced back up CB.

If we don't get £30m I will be very disappointed. What % over £3m will MU get?

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:17 pm

What if the only bidder was Koeman at Everton?

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:20 pm

boatshed bill wrote:What if the only bidder was Koeman at Everton?
I'd be surprised if that was the case.

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:26 pm

Barry_Chuckle wrote:I'd be surprised if that was the case.
But would it be in Keane's interest to move there, or stay and progress with Burnley? (Assuming we stay up, of course)
And I do accept that it is an unlikely scenario, the Everton only bit I mean..
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Re: Michael Keane

Post by cutsy123 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:50 pm

MDWat wrote:Enjoy him whilst he's here. The bloke is going to play for England for years and years. He's absolutely class.
Dead honest well behaved well spoken and respectable guy. Potential england captain

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Re: Michael Keane

Post by Duffer_ » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:04 pm

Got invaluable game time at the right standard for his age through the loan system. Made a brave decision to leave Utd and join us. Was prepared to be patient and learn under Dyche. Keane will go on to have a hugely successful and rewarding career in football and, when the time comes, I will wish him well and enjoy his success.

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