Are we safe

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:10 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:Not filled with confidence after today's showing.
But still think we'll be ok with another 3 or 4 points.
Need a building job doing for next season though.

That sums up things nicely. We'll take a lot of games to get the points, and in doing so, will find ourselves near the bottom. But when push comes to shove, I think we'll just about do it - but nowhere near 9 points clear.

Noblelight · Post by **Noblelight** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:41 pm

I think we will win a couple more games and draw a couple which will be enough. Bad day at the office today but on we go.
UTC!

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:56 pm

Before the Watford game I said that the run of games at Watford, Hull, Swansea, Sunderland and Boro were not must win games for us by any stretch, but they were in fact mustn't LOSE games. If they all ended up as boring 0-0's and last game on MOTD it would be job done! Unfortunately we've now played 3 of those games and lost 2 and I don't think it bodes well.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:00 pm

we will win at Sunderland and Boro

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:01 pm

People said we'd win at Watford, Hull and Swansea.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:05 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Before the Watford game I said that the run of games at Watford, Hull, Swansea, Sunderland and Boro were not must win games for us by any stretch, but they were in fact mustn't LOSE games. If they all ended up as boring 0-0's and last game on MOTD it would be job done! Unfortunately we've now played 3 of those games and lost 2 and I don't think it bodes well.

Before the Watford game we were 10 points clear of the bottom 3, now with three of those games played (along with Chelsea) we are 9 points clear with only 11 to play.

Four games gone, 1 point lost.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:08 pm

Obviously we have given ourselves a half decent chance, but let's not take our survival for granted; the run in will be tough.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Obviously we have given ourselves a half decent chance, but let's not take our survival for granted; the run in will be tough.

I don't think for one minute that the run-in won't be tough. I'm also not going to fail to acknowledge just how well we have done so far.
I never expected that we'd be 9 points clear at this stage of the season. We really have worked our way into a very good situation.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:17 pm

No we are not

Six fingers · Post by **Six fingers** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:24 pm

Two wins and a draw or
Three wins

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:25 pm

I think 4 more points would be really pushing it.

Six fingers · Post by **Six fingers** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:32 pm

We have to start winning away all the clubs who are fighting the drop we have to play at there place. It's going to be tough

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:41 pm

Not safe at all. I am bricking it. Our home form is going to dip and we have no confidence away from home. I can see us needing to get 3 points against WBA at home and it being a nail biting , Brown trousers time for all us Clarets.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:45 pm

"Our home form is going to dip...."

How have you come to that conclusion?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:46 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:"Our home form is going to dip...."

How have you come to that conclusion?

My thoughts exactly. There's nothing at all to suggest our home form is going to dip. It's improved as the season has gone on.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:My thoughts exactly. There's nothing at all to suggest our home form is going to dip. It's improved as the season has gone on.

We have plenty of doom and gloom merchants on here Rileybobs,making statements like that it's as if they want our home form to dip...it won't! We are safe.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:12 pm

I think with home games against Spurs and United our home form is going to dip.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:15 pm

Longsider wrote:I think with home games against Spurs and United our home form is going to dip.

We've already played 4 of the other top 6 at home so there's no reason why these games should make a significant difference to our home form.

titsoutforthelads · Post by **titsoutforthelads** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:19 pm

35 pts will be enough
All you unbelievers stop worrying.
Having a great night here in Swansea

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:21 pm

Yes we are.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:23 pm

35 will see us well clear.

Boro, Sunderland and Hull will all not get even thirty.

Relax, boys.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:36 pm

Rileybobs wrote:My thoughts exactly. There's nothing at all to suggest our home form is going to dip. It's improved as the season has gone on.

There's nothing at all to suggest our away form will improve.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:39 pm

We're not safe but if we go down from here we'll have had to go into free fall.

One day SD will play his best side and we'll be surprised at the amount of possession we achieve.

clentclaret · Post by **clentclaret** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:04 am

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:14 am

FactualFrank wrote:There's nothing at all to suggest our away form will improve.

It's a good job we don't need it to improve.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:18 am

FactualFrank wrote:There's nothing at all to suggest our away form will improve.

I don't think our away form will improve dramatically. I still think we'll finish the season comfortably safe.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:32 pm

Well another game less to play, are we safe yet?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:33 pm

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:36 pm

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:36 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Well another game less to play, are we safe yet?

We never were safe, even when 10 points clear, as I pointed out the other week. It's already been eaten into.
The plus side is that we have half a dozen or so fixtures where we can pick up draws. 4-5 more draws and we'll JUST about survive. I don't see an away win this season, so a draw vs Sunderland will be a huge point and get us nearer to survival.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:37 pm

I wonder what the odds are on Us,Boro,& Hull going down?

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:38 pm

Definitely not!

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:39 pm

Certainly not safe yet - at least two more wins required

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:41 pm

We are safe

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:41 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I wonder what the odds are on Us,Boro,& Hull going down?

150/1

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:43 pm

West Brom & Stoke are key games towards the end of the season when their players are winding down for the summer 6 points from those to games is achievable and 6 points is all we need imo anymore points we get are a bonus

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:44 pm

Tall Paul wrote:150/1

Interesting:)

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:45 pm

Clearly we're not safe yet. But that's not the question - the question is "are we likely to stay up?" and the answer to that is "yes". the team are playing well generally, we're scoring goals and have enough confidence.

After Sunderland next week i think we have 9 left of which 4 are away and 5 at home and at worst we'll be 4 points clear going into that run.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:49 pm

We'll p!ss it.

Stop fretting.

TeesClaret · Post by **TeesClaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:51 pm

Sunderland (A) W
Spurs (H) D
Stoke (H) W
Boro (A) D
Everton (A) L
Manure (H) L
Palace (A) L
West Brom (H) W
Bournemouth (A) D
West Ham (H) D

13 more points gives us 44 points .

Wow - Easily survived

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:55 pm

We're not safe until we're safe. And we're not safe yet.
Lose our next 3 or 4 few games or just pick up one or two points then
anyone of Palace, Leicester, Watford, Swansea, Bournemouth will be close, if not above us.
Hull might be much close too.
Boro' and Sunderland will also be closer but may still be 5 or more points behind.

We've picked up 2 points in our last 5 games and need to improve on that over the next 5

So, just to repeat. We're not safe, until we're safe.

We've just got to believe that we're capable of getting at least one win over the next five
and one or two draws. If we can manage to do that I'll certainly feel a whole lot better
and more confident we can stay up. Especially if those points come away at Sunderland and Boro'.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:24 am

Burnley/Boro/Sunderland 33/1

Burnley 11/1

alwaysaclaret · Post by **alwaysaclaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:40 pm

Absolutely not, I really do feel it's going to be tough from here, win at Sunderland and Borough, and definitely yes, but there's no guarantees, it's no good keep playing well away and conceding goals in injury time you get nowt, I think we'll probably just make it but I really do feel it will be tough to get the 2 wins i feel we need UTC'S,

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:45 pm

At home we've got two games against top six sides and three against mid-table sides.

So far our record (top six) won 1, drawn 1, lost 2.

Mid-table (Bournemouth, Watford, Southampton) won 3, drawn 0, lost 0

Why the panic?

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:00 pm

Anyone who isn't convinced, get some money on us to go down.

18/1 at present with Betfair (same as Watford) whilst the likes of Sunderland, Boro and Hull are all odds on to go down.

Palace are 2/1, Swansea are 4/1 and even Leicester are shorter priced than us at 8/1

Stop panicking and enjoy the ride.

We are NOT going down !

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:03 pm

Meanwhile, a Division and half below us, our near neighbours down the M65 are third favourites to go down.

Even with their upturn since Agent Coyle was found out, they are definitely NOT safe !

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:33 pm

With ten games to go for us & Hull it's interesting to note they have gained just one point on us in the last ten matches (with ten to go) even though we have played 4 out of the last 5 games away. The gap between us and the bottom three was six points, now it's seven.

Middle-agedClaret · Post by **Middle-agedClaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:01 pm

No.
Not winning can become a habit.
Apart from Sunderland, I don't see any other "certainties" for relegation. Still quite a few games to go.
I am hopeful but...

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:03 pm

Middle-agedClaret wrote:No.
Not winning can become a habit.
Apart from Sunderland, I don't see any other "certainties" for relegation. Still quite a few games to go.
I am hopeful but...

Just two more wins and we are sound,with our home record surely that's achievable,West Ham,West Brom, Stoke surely there is six points in those three games for us?

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:03 pm

Middle-agedClaret wrote:No.
Not winning can become a habit.
Apart from Sunderland, I don't see any other "certainties" for relegation. Still quite a few games to go.
I am hopeful but...

Boro are far worse. They're nailed on too.

Hull, Palace, Swansea and Leicester have all showed signs of resurgence but even so they all have ground to make up and have yet to show they will consistently pick up points.

Spijed's post is v interesting because it shows that we've extended our lead away from the bottom over the last 10 games, depsite the aboves' improvement in form and despite us playing only 4 games at home in the league and also playing pretty much all the top 4