Are we safe

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:58 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Where abouts sidney1st ?

Didcot.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:01 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I was there.

It was hilarious and sad at the same time. Even their players started to sit up thinking they'd made it!

What got me is that there seemed to be zero footage or mention of it on SSN.

I've rolled this one out a few times on FB since it happened.
I was there too, brilliant day out

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Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:07 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I've rolled this one out a few times on FB since it happened.
I was there too, brilliant day out

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Funny how at first they ignored the Burnley fans then eventually wanted to kill them!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:12 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Funny how at first they ignored the Burnley fans then eventually wanted to kill them!

Queuing for the bus back to Reading train station was amusing.

I was having a decent chat with some Reading fans when a small number of gobshites started up.
I didn't have to do much, the Reading fans I was chatting to told the gobby ones to get lost

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:14 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Queuing for the bus back to Reading train station was amusing.

I was having a decent chat with some Reading fans when a small number of gobshites started up.
I didn't have to do much, the Reading fans I was chatting to told the gobby ones to get lost

I bet one of the gobby ones was the little fat bloke giving it large near the end of the video

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:20 pm

I don't think it was, not certain.

A mate of mine who's a Reading fan was sat in the home end just shaking his head in disbelief though when the others ran on the pitch.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:26 pm

When the large person sings, see that is being politically correct

burnleysteve · Post by **burnleysteve** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:40 pm

10 clear with 12 to play out of them 12 how games do the bottom 6 play each other. So there bound to take points off each other. I'd like to think we only need half a point a game 6pts to stay up

SloughClarets · Post by **SloughClarets** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:05 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I was there.

It was hilarious and sad at the same time. Even their players started to sit up thinking they'd made it!

What got me is that there seemed to be zero footage or mention of it on SSN.

I live close to Reading too, so have a lot of Reading supporting friends. I do like to remind them, very often, about that pitch invasion.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:52 am

nonayclaret · Post by **nonayclaret** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:14 am

We will virtually have to lose all our remaining games and all the trailers win many more than they are capable of. Stop worrying

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:43 am

I was really sad after the Lincoln game. Then I thought, would I prefer to beat Lincoln and lose at hull ? Today we got a deserved point at Hull and I feel really good. Yes we will stay up

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:15 am

I am 95 percent sure we will stay up. Too much rubbish below us.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:26 am

9 pts more then rebuild for next season in the premier ship

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:34 am

Spijed wrote:Taking emotion out of the situation we won't need that many more points unless there is a big implosion by the top sides.

There are only three points for a win, two for a draw and there aren't enough of them for the bottom sides between them to get that many to make our position too difficult.

Two points for a draw? Have I missed something?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:04 am

TheOriginalLongsider wrote:Two points for a draw? Have I missed something?

yes, one for each side!

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:23 am

Are we safe? Not according to the "be careful" thread.

SloughClarets · Post by **SloughClarets** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:14 am

Would be interesting to know, and i haven't got time to work it out. How many points could the teams in the bottom half actually accumulate with the games left. I.E with teams in the bottom half playing each other, there is only a set amount of points available. That being the case, there must be a points target that if we reach is unreachable for other teams.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:18 am

One game at a time and once we have x points and three teams can get x-1 points we will be safe. Same every season.
At 10 points clear or 9 if Leicester get at least a point tomorrow with 12 to go it is a situation that few teams have blown in the past- although I think Norwich have once.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:06 pm

Yep.

As stated on another thread, the idiots under us keep losing.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:07 pm

Yes, still think we are. The current bottom 3 are likely the teams going down. We'd have to completely capitulate to get dragged into it now. We'll be fine but performances like today don't help. Dyche let us down today but he's stored up enough good karma.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:12 pm

Funnily enough after today's results I would say.....yes.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:34 pm

No!!! Absolutely no guarantee we'll pick up the required 8/9 points. If we're going to do it it HAS to be at home against some more than decent opposition, because we certainly won't collect the points away!!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:35 pm

We don't require 8/9 points.

Five or six will be perfectly adequate.

Cooperclaret · Post by **Cooperclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:36 pm

Check out Boro's run in. Hull can't score and Sunderland need to go on league winning form to stay up

We are safe

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:36 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:No!!! Absolutely no guarantee we'll pick up the required 8/9 points. If we're going to do it it HAS to be at home against some more than decent opposition, because we certainly won't collect the points away!!

We won't need 8 or 9 more points. Do you seriously think one from Boro, Hull or Sunderland are going to get them plus the 9 they are already behind?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:40 pm

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:41 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:We don't require 8/9 points.

Five or six will be perfectly adequate.

The match at The Stadium of Light will probably be the only game all season where S'land start favourites! For a good reason. So then we move on to our home games against Spurs (second and flying) and Stoke. (more than decent and certainly belligerent) Ok 6 points needed, but I'm struggling to see where from just now.

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:43 pm

If the bottom 3 can all average 1 point per game from their remaining fixtures which is considerably better than they have done to date, we would stay up with ONE WIN and could lose the rest of our games.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:43 pm

Absolutely not!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:44 pm

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:49 pm

Don't think we need 8 or 9 points to be safe.
That would mean one of Boro, Hull and Sunderland getting 17/18/19 points from their remaining fixtures.
However, one of those (probably Hull) could easily get 14/15 or 16 points and that might mean we need
another 5 or 6 to ensure we stay up.

The away games at Sunderland and Boro' may well determine our fate (and theirs).
If we can avoid defeat in those games then I think we should be safe assuming we can pick
up a few points at home.

We're not safe. Far from it. Those that think we are clearly don't know how football
can turn. We could lose our next three or four and be looking over our shoulders.

Hopefully not.

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:49 pm

3 points will probably do it, 5 will almost certainly be enough.

Would be absolutely amazed if we don't survive.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:51 pm

We could very, very easily go into free fall. It's quite normal historically for somebody from "mid table" to suddenly lose a few and get sucked into the dog fight almost from nowhere. I keep thinking it might be B'mouth, but it could so easily be us.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:53 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:We could very, very easily go into free fall. It's quite normal historically for somebody from "mid table" to suddenly lose a few and get sucked into the dog fight almost from nowhere. I keep thinking it might be B'mouth, but it could so easily be us.

But I doubt any team in free fall has failed to pick up zero points with 11 matches to go.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:55 pm

Not yet, but we are very close. We're averaging over a point a game so far, we'd have to drop way below that in the remaining games to be in any kind of real danger.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:55 pm

3putt wrote:3 points will probably do it, 5 will almost certainly be enough.

Would be absolutely amazed if we don't survive.

34 points? not a chance, 38 perhaps.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:57 pm

Spijed wrote:But I doubt any team in free fall has failed to pick up zero points with 11 matches to go.

In fairness Spijed it doesn't need to be zero points. 3 or 4 would be potentially disastrous (depending on who those points were taken off)

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:57 pm

boatshed bill wrote:34 points? not a chance, 38 perhaps.

Think in between that will be just enough.

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:58 pm

"We're not safe. Far from it. Those that think we are clearly don't know how football
can turn. We could lose our next three or four and be looking over our shoulders."

"Far from it"

No sorry you are wrong, we are very very close to it.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:59 pm

boatshed bill wrote:34 points? not a chance, 38 perhaps.

Where are Hull or Boro going to get another 15 points from in the remaining 11 games, or Sunderland 18 from 12 matches?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:59 pm

If the bottom 3 continue to pick up points at the same rate, and there's no reason why they won't, then we won't even need another point to stay up.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:00 pm

boatshed bill wrote:34 points? not a chance, 38 perhaps.

Bill, do you actually think Boro, Sunderland and Hull will reach 30 points, never mind 34?

No chance whatsoever. We're perfectly safe, stop fretting.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:00 pm

Spijed wrote:Where are Hull or Boro going to get another 15 points from in the remaining 11 games, or Sunderland 18 from 12 matches?

No idea.

But look at the stats in EPL history.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:04 pm

Yes, has 31 points ever been enough? I'd be surprised!

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:04 pm

Spijed wrote:Where are Hull or Boro going to get another 15 points from in the remaining 11 games, or Sunderland 18 from 12 matches?

By putting a run together i think we are fine & im not panicking because even though our away form is dreadful other teams are worse cant win at home or away pick sporadic 3 pts up & odd draws. 36 will be enough as I've already said.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:05 pm

I think this season's statistics are far more relevant than historical statistics.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:05 pm

boatshed bill wrote:No idea.

But look at the stats in EPL history.

Indeed, and I'll think you'll find no team has come remotely close to being relegated with a 9 point lead with 11 matches to play.

Plenty of good stats websites which will provide you with all the answers you need.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:05 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:By putting a run together i think we are fine & im not panicking because even though our away form is dreadful other teams are worse cant win at home or away pick sporadic 3 pts up & odd draws. 36 will be enough as I've already said.

And I hope you are right.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:06 pm

Not filled with confidence after today's showing.
But still think we'll be ok with another 3 or 4 points.
Need a building job doing for next season though.