Worst ever Burnley 11 ?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:33 am

Clarets4me wrote:I'd forgotten about Howey, I think Stan took a dim view of him because he complained of a back problem, but refused to move nearer Burnley, from his home, and drove long distances every day ...

Here's my Eleven, chosen not necessarily for shortage of talent, but also dis-interest and lack of commitment to the Claret cause...

1. Mark Kendall
2. Peter Leebrook
3. Darren Heesom
4. Steve Blatherwick
5. Jim Heggarty
6. Mark Ford
7. Phil Malley
8. Peter Mumby
9. Tony Hancock
10. Nick Pickering
11. Paul Stewart

I was just about to type " That lot would take some beating ! ", but based on their collective showings for us, they really wouldn't !!

Peter Mumby`s harsh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can recall him scoring a couple of crackers against Scunthorpe (FA Cup) and Forest (Littlewoods Cup) away and boy did we celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tinribs · Post by **Tinribs** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:45 am

mark Caughey was the worst player ever to don a Burnley shirt.Remember watching him play in a game away at Stockport,might have been his debut.Unfit,slow,overweight and they were his more positive attributes.

Tinribs · Post by **Tinribs** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:46 am

Peter Mumby was great

Tinribs · Post by **Tinribs** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:49 am

Just reminiscing and I've seen some absolute dross play for us,but to be honest had some of my best away days watching em.
This current generation of Claret fans will never hopefully have to witness those type of players again.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:51 am

I see Mark Kendall gets a mention. If we are going to base a goalkeeper on one performance, as it is with Kendall, then surely Tony Woodworth gets in. Always Joe Neenan for me as the worst regular goalkeeper I saw.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:55 am

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:There are no tres on the pitch now so someone must have pulled them up.

Good point, well made. However, it certainly wasn't Gascoigne.

Amex · Post by **Amex** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:58 am

Dy1geo wrote:I love these threads as you know the legend that is Tony Hancock will quickly get a mention. Would love to see him back for the half time draw

My memory is fuzzy but did he try an overhead kick in his first game at TM
At the time he was a god for trying that

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:06 am

RocketLawnChair wrote:So Leighton James is in your worst Burnley XI Braindead? And he's one of the worst in our history,, all about opinions I suppose !

Leighton James circa 1987 - yes.

Like I say, statistically anyone who played in that season deserves to be in the worst eleven - collectively they dragged us to 91st place in the league pyramid.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:09 am

Joe Gallagher. Has to be included. He only had the one good leg!

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:37 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Peter Mumby`s harsh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can recall him scoring a couple of crackers against Scunthorpe (FA Cup) and Forest (Littlewoods Cup) away and boy did we celebrate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the cold light of morning,I accept Peter Mumby does look harsh...

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:49 am

what about gerry gow ? he, and a few others from Bond's era were hideously bad. Seriously made no effort for the team at all. shocking.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:55 am

Belial wrote:Randall was a great player... limited, but great for the level he was

Randall was all fur coat and no knickers. Bone idle at best

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:02 pm

Nick Pickering has to be in there - he told me to f-off at the old Huddersfield ground - Leeds Road. We got beat 2-0 and the away fans were very close to the goals so I kindly pointed out to him my considered opinion on his performance. I wish he would have shown that kind of aggression on the pitch !!

That side in the 4th division when we almost went down was pretty awful...no disrespect to Peter Leebrook but I think they may have mistakingly giving him a first team shirt when he was delivering the pies. Phil Malley was not much better.

Joe Gallagher was definitely injured when we bought him - proof that the management team at the time were bent. In equine parlours they would describe him as lame. I was working behind the bar in the Sparrow Hawk in Burnley and he was stopping in the hotel when he first signed and I remember him having a permanent limp but then still playing for us.

Dane Richards was one of the most surreal 30 minutes in my experience of watching Burnley - he was so far out of his depth that night that its really hard to judge how bad he was. Fortunately for Dane he is back now filming in Hollywood in the remake of Different Strokes.

For the person who mentioned Mark Monnington he actually looked a half decent centre back for half a season - looked to have something about him and then he lost his confidence. I remember watching us away at Doncaster - Bell Vue. There was no stand down one side of the pitch - not sure why. Monnington sliced a clearance and it went right over the houses....probably still rolling down the A1. It was at that point that I realised we did not have the next Bobby Moore on our books !

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I see Mark Kendall gets a mention. If we are going to base a goalkeeper on one performance, as it is with Kendall, then surely Tony Woodworth gets in. Always Joe Neenan for me as the worst regular goalkeeper I saw.

I always got the impression before and after CT that Neenan couldn't have cared less whether we went out of the league or not. I've been told since he was a decent bloke though and good/ generous with the trainee lads at the time , although he dined out on being good mates with Beefy Botham quite a bit.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:33 pm

Amadou Sanokho is probably the worst I have ever seen play for us.

The lad made three or four sub appearances and literally looked like one of the crowd had just jogged on to the pitch, his touch was unbelievable.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I see Mark Kendall gets a mention. If we are going to base a goalkeeper on one performance, as it is with Kendall, then surely Tony Woodworth gets in. Always Joe Neenan for me as the worst regular goalkeeper I saw.

But it was a very bad day for Kendall!

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:59 pm

I do think a top flight one is more apt...
1. Mellor
2. Flanagan
3. Jordan
4. Ingham
5. Cort
6. Edgar
7. Chalobah
8. McDonald
9. Jutkiewicz
10. Sordell
11. Bradshaw

Sub Derek Scott.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:22 pm

I'm surprised no one has mentioned John Gayle.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:32 pm

Not that easy to do a Premier League one:

.................Penny
Eckersley....Edgar...Cort....Easton
Reid Chalobah Ulvestad Guerrero
..........Jukes, Sordell

I can think of a lot worse mind.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:33 pm

Steve1956 wrote:I'm surprised no one has mentioned John Gayle.

You can add him, but only if you're willing to tell him, to his face.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:37 pm

dibraidio wrote:You can add him, but only if you're willing to tell him, to his face.

Don't fancy that mate I bet he's about thirty stone these days and still built like a brick shitehouse.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:47 pm

Ive changed my mind dibraidio,would anyone who valued life tell this man he was rubbish

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dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:15 pm

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You shi**ing with me Steve1956?

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:32 pm

TVC15 wrote:Nick Pickering has to be in there - he told me to f-off at the old Huddersfield ground - Leeds Road. We got beat 2-0 and the away fans were very close to the goals so I kindly pointed out to him my considered opinion on his performance. I wish he would have shown that kind of aggression on the pitch !!

For the person who mentioned Mark Monnington he actually looked a half decent centre back for half a season - looked to have something about him and then he lost his confidence. I remember watching us away at Doncaster - Bell Vue. There was no stand down one side of the pitch - not sure why. Monnington sliced a clearance and it went right over the houses....probably still rolling down the A1. It was at that point that I realised we did not have the next Bobby Moore on our books !

I was at those two games TVC. Wasn't Mark Monnington sent off for that (a second yellow).

And I remember reading 442 a while after the Hudds game when fanzine editors were picking the worst player in each club. Ours said something along the lines of: 'Ex England Midfielder Nick Pickering was so slow at Huddersfield we thought he was cutting the grass!'

oswyclaret · Post by **oswyclaret** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:34 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:Might mean the David Jones that I once saw play for us away at Orient.
Made Yakubu in his 2 1/2 minute viral video look like Desert Orchid.

Actually I was at the orient game away in the late 80s and Jones was actually a lot slower than he looked.

Got beat 3 0 I think!

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:38 pm

Mark Kendall what a day out that was!
Peter Zelem
Roger Hansbury
Steve Gardner
Paul Stewart
Ian Halliwell
Joe Gallagher
Joe Neenan
Steve Guinan
Mark Caughey
Mark Ford
Neil Whatmore
Dave Jones mk 1 although he once score a belter against Preston
Liam Robinson
Tony Hancock

Think I better stop now, I am having palpitations.

Venkys4eva · Post by **Venkys4eva** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:01 pm

I remember Joe Jakub getting sent off at mansfield and he wouldnt leave the pitch... Even the Burnley fans were singing for him to go!

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:13 pm

Can't remember David Jones Mk 1 scoring for us. Certainly didn't in the league.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:16 pm

David Jones was the only striker we ever had who lost height when he jumped

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:50 pm

Can't remember David Jones Mk 1 scoring for us. Certainly didn't in the league.

Think you're right Blackrod, thinking of Steve Jones v Preston

harpers_perm · Post by **harpers_perm** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:01 pm

I've seen some absolute dross but nothing comes remotely close to Michael Williams in the mid 90's.

When that incompetent Waddle signed him he proffered 'I can't believe we've signed Michael Williams'.

The only thing he got right whilst he managed us, he seriously had to be seen to believed, there wasn't even criticism, just laughter.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:47 pm

Nick Pickering

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:03 pm

dibraidio wrote:
john_gayle.JPG
You shi**ing with me Steve1956?

He looks a cuddly bear these days.."Hey John you were bobbins"

mrhungryone · Post by **mrhungryone** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:52 pm

pureclaret wrote:with people putting on players in the 80s , one came to mind not that he was not good for us he would have taken the ops team on his own in the dressing room and come out on top. Who remembers the meek and mild bloke from Bacup (that on its own is frighting )
But Andy Wharton what he lacked in skill he made for in terror.

Was he in the big john gayle category?

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:03 pm

oswyclaret wrote:Actually I was at the orient game away in the late 80s and Jones was actually a lot slower than he looked.

Got beat 3 0 I think!

I was at that game, I think a young teenage striker they had on loan from Arsenal scored a hat trick, Kevin Campbell who went on to have a pretty decent top flight career.

I always remember chatting to a bloke on the terraces at this game who was stood with his motorbike helmet in his hand in full leathers and this cockney policeman said, "sorry to interrupt lads but can I just ask how long it took you to get down here on your bike mate, the other officers have been taking bets?", the lad replied "About ten minutes, I live in Stratford"

The guy couldn't comprehend that,even in the late 80's, Burnley had a large southern based following.

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:11 pm

Venkys4eva wrote:Surely Joe Jakub and Mark Monington would deserve a place

Not a chance!

Grimsby Claret · Post by **Grimsby Claret** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:22 pm

andyh wrote:I do think a top flight one is more apt...
1. Mellor
2. Flanagan
3. Jordan
4. Ingham
5. Cort
6. Edgar
7. Chalobah
8. McDonald
9. Jutkiewicz
10. Sordell
11. Bradshaw

Sub Derek Scott.

Mellor ? Surprised I remember him play a blinder against Leeds. Are you comparing him with the Great Alan Stevenson ?After we sold him he played for Fulham for years.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:25 pm

I hate threads like this, utterly disrespectful.

mrhungryone · Post by **mrhungryone** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:28 pm

Didnt stan ternent bring paul scott on as a substitute to continue what was reported in the press at the time 'the miller scott Dynasty' no direspect but that was a bit of an old boys act imo. Whether world beaters or not im sure most of us agree most of the players mentioned have played a part in burnleys history.

taffy · Post by **taffy** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:02 pm

I was at the Huddersfield game when nick Pickering made his debut , was quite excited at the prospect until someone sent a ball down the channel for him to run on to and he set off like a lame camel then the linesman ran past him was really funny until we realised he had signed a two year contract

Grimsby Claret · Post by **Grimsby Claret** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:15 pm

I have positive memories of many of these players listed. ( with a few exceptions)

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:31 pm

vinrogue wrote:If my dad was still alive he would want Peter Mellor in goal for this side. He disliked him with a passion, I remember thinking he looked cool with long blonde hair (Peter Mellor not my dad who was bald!), my dads description of him would be non PC these days to say the least but he is worth a mention just for my dads sake.

I scored a penalty against Peter when I was 11

Garforth Claret · Post by **Garforth Claret** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:45 pm

I am not going to pick players. It's not there fault that the standard we played at just wasn't good over many years. I will though contribute by saying that whatever team is picked John Bond can be the manager.

Liverpool Clarets · Post by **Liverpool Clarets** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:46 pm

I had a few nights out with John Gayle and Winston White, let's say it was never dull with these boys in town...

#PanamaJoes

Liverpool Clarets · Post by **Liverpool Clarets** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:50 pm

As for the worst players I've seen then it's Ian Bray, Paul France and Jon Smyth.

Does anyone remember when we loaned David Williams our reserve goalkeeper to Rochdale. Then for some random reason allowed him to play against us at Turf Moor in which he was Man of the Match and they won 0-1!!!

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:55 pm

Mark Rhodes. John Benson signing from Rotherham I think?

mrhungryone · Post by **mrhungryone** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:56 pm

Dy1geo wrote:I love these threads as you know the legend that is Tony Hancock will quickly get a mention. Would love to see him back for the half time draw

I think you mean the half hour draw to be fair....

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:06 pm

Of the Four that Ternent sacked, Blatherwick was probably hardest done by as he actually went on to have a decent career in the lower leagues, captaining Chesterfield for a number of years.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:41 pm

Liverpool Clarets wrote: Does anyone remember when we loaned David Williams our reserve goalkeeper to Rochdale. Then for some random reason allowed him to play against us at Turf Moor in which he was Man of the Match and they won 0-1!!!

I was on that game, 21st September 1991, I couldn't believe it when William's name was announced...he played like Gordon Banks. Frank Casper was near the end of his tether, and we lost 3 - 1 away at Scarborough the following week & that was Frank done. Jimmy Mullen takes over, wins 9 League games on the trot, gets the Gig on a permanent basis and two promotions in three seasons follow...

One observation, Mike Conroy scored 26 goals in 45 League and Cup appearances that season, all as a starter. Fair play to him, but I watched every home and many away games that season, and someone like Andy Payton would have probably netted 40+, with the chances created.. this is not untypical of home games that season, & we won 4 - 1...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJGc26BRbxk

stateofthenation · Post by **stateofthenation** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:04 pm

Dane Richard's
Think that's his name. Sub and then subbed.