Ranieri donates £1.5m to Leicester Charity
Ranieri donates £1.5m to Leicester Charity
I'm sorry if this has been on the board already but I can't see it.
Claudio Ranieri has reportedly donated half of his £3m pay-off to the Foxes Foundation charity.
Claudio Ranieri has reportedly donated half of his £3m pay-off to the Foxes Foundation charity.
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Class act is Claudio.
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Top bloke. Talk about holding the moral high ground
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Way to show Leicester as a complete and utter set of heartless and shitheaded knobs.
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Why not all of it?
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Half is enough to show what a good bloke he is.Diesel wrote:Why not all of it?
He didn't need to donate any and I certainly wouldn't give it all over if I was him.
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Who decided 'half is enough'? Has there been some sort of meeting that I wasn't aware of?
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Half is half too much, no doubt some of it will end up in pockets un-worthy!
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You were excluded from the meeting due to your position as head of the "Half is not enough" committee.Diesel wrote:Who decided 'half is enough'? Has there been some sort of meeting that I wasn't aware of?
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I suppose 'half' might make you feel a little less guilty for being absolutely useless this season, all he had to do was replace his centre halfs. (Keane for 25m would have seen him okay).
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Their current goal drought this year in the league says otherwise.Diesel wrote:I suppose 'half' might make you feel a little less guilty for being absolutely useless this season, all he had to do was replace his centre halfs. (Keane for 25m would have seen him okay).
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But Ranieri was happy to pay £25m for Keane, but the Thai owners refused to back him.
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Total class act. I'm still amazed he got a season out of them wasters.
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Decent and honest man but I tend to agree with foxedup on the Leicester forum who was convinced they were going down with him charge. Then the Thai owners were bricking it with fancy new player contracts without relegation clauses and his removal became inevitable.
Question is......Will the results now improve with him gone?......I'm not so sure.
Question is......Will the results now improve with him gone?......I'm not so sure.
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You can't possibly be in a position to know that.Royboyclaret wrote:But Ranieri was happy to pay £25m for Keane, but the Thai owners refused to back him.
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"You can't possibly be in a position to know that."
No worries.
No worries.
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The Keane story was in the papers last weekend.
As for what Foxedup said, whoever that is, that's all well and good but statistically it is proven that the "bounce" from a new manager is an illusion (see the book The Numbers Game). In that all managers get sacked when results go wrong for them, that suggests that most new guys fail to turn it around and Leicester are probably in no different a position to other clubs in this situation.
Thus in the context of Ranieri given what he achieved last season I am inclined to go with the view that's it's a grotesque maltreatment in the circumstances of last year's minor miracle. If he took them down so be it he could be removed, but he deserved to see if he kept them up then rebuilt from there with staff more suited to him.
As for what Foxedup said, whoever that is, that's all well and good but statistically it is proven that the "bounce" from a new manager is an illusion (see the book The Numbers Game). In that all managers get sacked when results go wrong for them, that suggests that most new guys fail to turn it around and Leicester are probably in no different a position to other clubs in this situation.
Thus in the context of Ranieri given what he achieved last season I am inclined to go with the view that's it's a grotesque maltreatment in the circumstances of last year's minor miracle. If he took them down so be it he could be removed, but he deserved to see if he kept them up then rebuilt from there with staff more suited to him.
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In the end it became a cold blooded decision by very successful businessmen who see relegation, and all the financial implications involved, as something to be avoided at all costs.
Time alone will tell if they've made a smart move.
Time alone will tell if they've made a smart move.
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Somewhat eccentric but Leicester have lost a decent man. Are they seriously going to replace those qualities with Nigel Pearson?
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Horrible club owners. I didn't like Pearson either but they sacked him after a miraculous escape from relegation to I instill Ranieri.
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I think k people forget Leicester were almost certs for relegation at this time 2 years ago. They are now returning to their natural level. It's not nice being in a relegation battle but at least they have a massive premier league trophy to sob into. Most teams just finish 17th then go down the year after.
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Whether they overachieved or not last season they should be absolutely nowhere near the bottom 3 now. Ranieri was taking them down, I really don't understand the uproar.
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Do you not feel the players should shoulder some of the blame?
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Absolutely, they've been a bunch of wasters and I hope they go down for it. Ranieri seems like a top bloke but it's a manager's job to manage the players.Claretmatt4 wrote:Do you not feel the players should shoulder some of the blame?
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His sacking was more because he supported his previously sacked sonCirrus_Minor wrote:Horrible club owners. I didn't like Pearson either but they sacked him after a miraculous escape from relegation to I instill Ranieri.
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Pearsons position was totally untenable after that sex tape episode involving his son 'came' to light.
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Looks like Vardy had downed tools on tonight's showing. He suddenly seems to have woken up.
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Id tell em wher to go and keep the brass
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I hate it when a manager gets sacked and the players show a positive 'reaction'. Just highlights that they haven't been trying hard enough!
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Beg to differ. They could not condone the sexploitation as Thai businessmen in a Thailand context. They held a moral line that Pearson crossed in supporting his son, and as much as I loathe the guy, family is a big deal, so all in all his son is a dick, his father publicly seen to stand by him, and the club owners seen to hold a standard. All worked out in the end.Cirrus_Minor wrote:Horrible club owners. I didn't like Pearson either but they sacked him after a miraculous escape from relegation to I instill Ranieri.
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You have absolutely no idea... the owners are absolutely fantastic and make decisions on what's best for the football club. They aren't motivated by money, they wrote off a hundred million + of loans, bought the stadium back off the banks, pumped millions into local charities.Cirrus_Minor wrote:Horrible club owners. I didn't like Pearson either but they sacked him after a miraculous escape from relegation to I instill Ranieri.
Pearson got sacked for off the field reasons, notably how he failed to handle the press. With of course, the fact his son was embroiled in a Thai hooker scandal.
Ranieri got sacked because he managed the club badly this year, sacked backroom staff, alienated staff, made bizarre decisions and so on.
95% of Leicester fans would back the owners over Ranieri any day of the week, because we know our club and we know the facts. We aren't basing out knowledge of a few tits in the press that have no idea what they are talking about.
If you're bored and find a copy laying about somewhere, read the Fearless book by Jonathon Norcroft of the Times and then his recent articles. It will give you an understanding of how this club developed and how much it was a joint effort from so many, and not just Ranieri as some would have you believe. His latest articles also spell out where it went wrong and how Ranieri changed this season.
The owners are absolutely key to our success and not just from a financial point of view.
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Oh and just to add, Ranieri has not donated £1.5m to the foundation as far as anyone knows. This was some random nonsense posted on a facebook page and then spread to make him look even more lovable.
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I hoped Leicester would be relegated right from the start of the Season, with Ranieri in charge or without. Them sacking him really has made no difference to my position. I still hold out strong hopes that this may still come to pass.
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I hoped Burnley would stay up, but I won't hold it against you.Lord Beamish wrote:I hoped Leicester would be relegated right from the start of the Season, with Ranieri in charge or without. Them sacking him really has made no difference to my position. I still hold out strong hopes that this may still come to pass.
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Just without their money you'd still be dicking around in league 1 or the championshipfoxedup wrote:
The owners are absolutely key to our success and not just from a financial point of view.
Do you work on behalf of the owners out of interest?
You always seem to be defending them.
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Yeah fancy backing owners you think have been nigh on faultless since they arrived. Why would I moan about them when I think they are doing a bloody good job? We've won two championships with them.Sidney1st wrote:Just without their money you'd still be dicking around in league 1 or the championship
Do you work on behalf of the owners out of interest?
You always seem to be defending them.
I said NOT JUST from a financial point of view, I'm well aware that the money they invested has been key. But money alone doesn't do anything as many others have found out. They came in and had awful advice from Milan Mandaric to start with, but as soon as he was out of the club they found their feet very quickly.
They've invested not just in players, but the club as a whole. Getting Cat 1 status, millions on training facilities, the ground and so on. No just pumping money on players, but money on the foundations of the club in general. That's why they get so much respect here.
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Would you back our owners? I think it's refreshing to see fans backing owners and not at each others throats. From the outside looking in, I agree with the sacking of Ranieri. They were going down with him in charge, the players weren't playing for him. They spent £80M on new players on big wages and even gave key players from last season, huge pay rises. (I think Drinkwater is on close to £100K p/w). They simply couldn't afford to go down out of sentiment to Ranieri, they sacked him to give themselves the best possible chance at escaping relegation and judging by last nights performance and result, it has worked a treat as they scored 3 goals in 1 game, quite remarkable considering they had scored just 1 league goal since Christmas and 0 league goals in 2017.Sidney1st wrote:Just without their money you'd still be dicking around in league 1 or the championship
Do you work on behalf of the owners out of interest?
You always seem to be defending them.
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KRBFC wrote:Would you back our owners? I think it's refreshing to see fans backing owners and not at each others throats. From the outside looking in, I agree with the sacking of Ranieri. They were going down with him in charge, the players weren't playing for him. They spent £80M on new players on big wages and even gave key players from last season, huge pay rises. (I think Drinkwater is on close to £100K p/w). They simply couldn't afford to go down out of sentiment to Ranieri, they sacked him to give themselves the best possible chance at escaping relegation and judging by last nights performance and result, it has worked a treat as they scored 3 goals in 1 game, quite remarkable considering they had scored just 1 league goal since Christmas and 0 league goals in 2017.
The trouble is when you pay players too much they lose focus. Jamie Vardy is a prime example. He's more interested in money, and all the trappings that brings than he is playing football.
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I don't think that's true, Ronaldo and Messi seem interested in playing football.Spijed wrote:The trouble is when you pay players too much they lose focus. Jamie Vardy is a prime example. He's more interested in money, and all the trappings that brings than he is playing football.
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I'd bet if either of them played against us they'd try their best, but a few weeks ago Vardy just seemed happy to run around for 90 minutes without putting much effort in.KRBFC wrote:I don't think that's true, Ronaldo and Messi seem interested in playing football.
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That was Ranieri's fault.Spijed wrote:I'd bet if either of them played against us they'd try their best, but a few weeks ago Vardy just seemed happy to run around for 90 minutes without putting much effort in.
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Ours have done similar things in respect to the infrastructure of the club etc.foxedup wrote:Yeah fancy backing owners you think have been nigh on faultless since they arrived. Why would I moan about them when I think they are doing a bloody good job? We've won two championships with them.
I said NOT JUST from a financial point of view, I'm well aware that the money they invested has been key. But money alone doesn't do anything as many others have found out. They came in and had awful advice from Milan Mandaric to start with, but as soon as he was out of the club they found their feet very quickly.
They've invested not just in players, but the club as a whole. Getting Cat 1 status, millions on training facilities, the ground and so on. No just pumping money on players, but money on the foundations of the club in general. That's why they get so much respect here.
I'm aware money doesn't always make everything work.
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Ah but they've got the attitude to succeed and be the best they can be...KRBFC wrote:I don't think that's true, Ronaldo and Messi seem interested in playing football.
Whilst Vardy has done well to club from non league to PL winner, he doesn't by any stretch of the imagination desire or attitude as those 2 players.
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That Craig Shakespeare seems like another snake. Tries to pretend he doesn't want the job and the club comes first etc but has to get it in that he is the best man for the job.
I wish they were still to come to the turf they would get dogs abuse and rightly so.
No morals at all in the club.
I wish they were still to come to the turf they would get dogs abuse and rightly so.
No morals at all in the club.
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charity begins at home.
The snakes or Foxes dependant on which paper you read should first pay the debts they dodged by going into Administration!
Starting with the ambulance bill.
The snakes or Foxes dependant on which paper you read should first pay the debts they dodged by going into Administration!
Starting with the ambulance bill.
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Are these the same wonderful owners that sanctioned the massive overspend in '13/'14 to gain promotion? e.g Wages of £27m compared to our £15m and even Derby £13m.
As a result failed to comply with FFP which suddenly saw a company called Trestellar emerging and providing 'sponsorship' of £11million to increase their Income which just so happened to be the amount required to avoid payment of the Fair Play fine. A gigantic amount for a company with an address on an industrial estate in Sheffield with one employee, no website and no telephone number. A well described fraud of a club by quoonbeatz on here.
When Bournemouth also overspent to gain promotion at least they had the good grace to accept and pay their Fair Play fine of £8m without resorting to the sort of creative accounting that was deemed acceptable by the wonderful owners of Leicester City.
As a result failed to comply with FFP which suddenly saw a company called Trestellar emerging and providing 'sponsorship' of £11million to increase their Income which just so happened to be the amount required to avoid payment of the Fair Play fine. A gigantic amount for a company with an address on an industrial estate in Sheffield with one employee, no website and no telephone number. A well described fraud of a club by quoonbeatz on here.
When Bournemouth also overspent to gain promotion at least they had the good grace to accept and pay their Fair Play fine of £8m without resorting to the sort of creative accounting that was deemed acceptable by the wonderful owners of Leicester City.
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I'm going to be interested to see the response to that one......
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The article in the Guardian:
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Ah a former PL chairman was involved in setting up these shady deals.
Not a massive surprise really.
Not a massive surprise really.
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"Financial Fair Play" is in effect a device that effectively protects already rich clubs from having competition from their "noisy neighbours".
It was fine as a concept, but then when put in place actually has an opposite effect from that which was originally intended. But then what did we expect? If Leicester found a way around it that allowed them to compete with the "big 4" that were almost guaranteed a champions league spot every year - albeit for only one season - then good for them - just so long as whatever it was that they did doesn't put the club in danger of combusting. Why should Chelsea be able to throw shed-loads of money from a rich owner at their club but Bournemouth, Leicester and Man City's owners not be able to do likewise?
It was fine as a concept, but then when put in place actually has an opposite effect from that which was originally intended. But then what did we expect? If Leicester found a way around it that allowed them to compete with the "big 4" that were almost guaranteed a champions league spot every year - albeit for only one season - then good for them - just so long as whatever it was that they did doesn't put the club in danger of combusting. Why should Chelsea be able to throw shed-loads of money from a rich owner at their club but Bournemouth, Leicester and Man City's owners not be able to do likewise?
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