Whats the story with Joey v Clement?

[7decades]

Anybody know what the headlines all about please ?

[Steve1956]

What! Gimme evidence

[7decades]

I don`t know, thats why I`m asking. Just heard a by word for a footie prog tonight and wondering what it`s all about ? Something to do with Clements celebration as the game finishes ?

[hampsteadclaret]

Clement's excited lap of honour post victory was mildly amusing I would say.

He's certainly doing something right there.

[Rileybobs]

I turned the game off pretty swiftly but noticed that Clement appeared to be goading Barton on the pitch. Not sure how it came about though.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Clement was doing a quick lap to make sure he'd picked all his cones up. Think he accused Joey of moving one.

[cutsy123]

None story

[Steve1956]

I heard Clement forgot to put Joey's bets on ....he was fuming!

[SparkyClaret]

I noticed him approach Barton at the final whistle after his little jaunt across the pitch the gee up the Swansea fans, just looked like Barton shrugged him off. Was more bothered by Clement moaning about Lowton's throw ins during the second half

[Wile E Coyote]

clement looks psychotic, far too serious for football. He is punching above his weight. non footballer, expecting to manage footballers.
his bubble will burst sooner than he thinks.

[claretdj]

Burnley 4 Derby 1.. Clement clearly very bitter!

[Funkydrummer]

his bubble will burst sooner than he thinks.[/quote]

His bubble looks pretty well inflated to me at the moment, I have to say. Lovely football to watch.

[Wile E Coyote]

they robbed us with a blatant foul, he is a man who somehow wangled his way in to top clubs with no pedigree. Dyche knew what to do, his players were incapable of performing,. clement is a bit like mowbray, stop gap type, no stamina.

[IanMcL]

Swansea outclassed us today and looked very confident. Could have had about 8 goals!

[Lord Beamish]

Clement is a decent Manager, managing over a superior Squad to ours, on his home turf. He'd win far more than he lost against us, should we play the same fixture ten weekends in a row.

[bobinho]

Hope the circus isn't about to start.

Joseph has been excellent since he's been wearing our shirt, barring letting fat boy rhead get in his head.

[Shore claret]

Not sure how Clement gets these jobs, must have the same agent as horse face.
That Swansea team should be nowhere near the bottom of the table.
Shows what happens when you employ clueless managers.

[Rileybobs]

Not sure how Clement gets these jobs, must have the same agent as horse face.
That Swansea team should be nowhere near the bottom of the table.
Shows what happens when you employ clueless managers.

I'm pretty sure that since Clement joined their record has been excellent.

[taio]

Not sure how Clement gets these jobs, must have the same agent as horse face.
That Swansea team should be nowhere near the bottom of the table.
Shows what happens when you employ clueless managers.

Crikey that's a strange post

[Blackrod]

Clement is a good manager. Good appointment by Swansea and shouldn't have been sacked by Derby.

[TVC15]

Early days yet for Clement but he does appear to have got a lot more out of the same Swansea team than the other managers did this year.
He got manager of the month in his first month didn't he ?
I thought it was a strange appointment after what happened at Derby but there could be good reasons behind that failure.

You don't get the jobs Clement has had without being able to do your coaching job very well. Does not mean automatically that you will make a good manager....but doesn't mean you won't either as clearly he must have the football knowledge and also will have learnt a lot about the managerial side from Ancelloti etc.

They carry on playing like they have been and they will finish mid table no problem - and in the process hopefully do us a big favour as they have many of the teams below us still to play

[ashtonlongsider]

I personally think Clements has the makings of being a very decent manager. He served a good apprenticeship with top European sides, and was very unfortunate to lose his job at Derby. The've not exactly improved since he left. The bonus is he's another English manager, who some, including posters on here like to quickly criticise.

[Spijed]

Early days yet for Clement but he does appear to have got a lot more out of the same Swansea team than the other managers did this year.
He got manager of the month in his first month didn't he ?
I thought it was a strange appointment after what happened at Derby but there could be good reasons behind that failure.

You don't get the jobs Clement has had without being able to do your coaching job very well. Does not mean automatically that you will make a good manager....but doesn't mean you won't either as clearly he must have the football knowledge and also will have learnt a lot about the managerial side from Ancelloti etc.

They carry on playing like they have been and they will finish mid table no problem - and in the process hopefully do us a big favour as they have many of the teams below us still to play

Last season they had 27 points from 27 matches and got a further 20 points.

[Shore claret]

Crikey that's a strange post

Why?

[Chester Perry]

If you look at Clement's 1st 20 or so games with Derby they were firing - that is the coach after that other teams began to work him out and he struggled and did not know how to react - that is his qualities as a manager - let see how he is doing this time next year and see if he has developed.

Even in a poor performance by us they scraped a win (with Heaton in goal they may have lost) even though they have a lot of quality in the team. Dyche had a plan just wasn't executed well he knows and the players know

[Hipper]

He's coached at top European clubs - Real Madrid, Bayern Munchen, Paris Saint-Germain, Chelsea (and a lesser one for a few months!!!!!).

He's clearly got something about him. I'm glad he's getting another chance in England.

[KefkaClaret]

Early days yet for Clement but he does appear to have got a lot more out of the same Swansea team than the other managers did this year.
He got manager of the month in his first month didn't he ?

Mike Phelan got manager of the month in his first month and he was terrible. Swansea have a better squad then us, if they didn't hire the yank I'd expect them to be much further up in the table.

[TVC15]

Hull have spent far more on players than Swansea. Mike Phekan was not the right appointment for them - they were never sure about him and delayed appointing him for a long time which undermined Phelan.

As for the comment that Swansea "scraped" a victory yesterday - I take it you did not watch the full game ? They completely outplayed us from the first minute - hit the woodwork 3 times, had 2 cleared off the line, and Llorente missed a header which was almost an open goal.

If the game had ended 5-0 yesterday nobody would have been surprised.

Swansea should have got a draw against City away and also played very well at Chelsea last week. They beat Liverpool away and have looked strong at home.

Before that they were shambolic - for most of the season their only win was at the Turf. They looked doomed and were massive odds on to go down.

I have no idea whether Clement will get "found out" - I'm not even sure what that means. All I see is a team who are now playing very well and the only thing that has changed from when they were bottom of the league and getting tonked every week is their manager.

Look back on Phelans actual results before you make the comparison - they won their first 2 games and hardly won after that...

[Chester Perry]

I did watch the game - they battered us at football - but scraped a win in the 92nd minute with a foul - still believe we had the tactics but were not on it - their wingers were excellent though allowed to cross to easily - backing off in the last 30 yards from our full backs allowed crosses that caused havoc - we should have taken them all the way down the byline - allowing others to get back - though I think we were scared of their pace. It shows what several years in the prem can do for the quality of the players that you can attract

A lot of teams have battered us at football - but few have won when we are on it

[TVC15]

Semantics really - if we would have held on then "scraped" a draw would have been an apt description for us.

Other than yourself I have not heard anybody describing the Swansea win as "scraped"......dramatic but more than deserved late winner has been the general consensus.

As you say yourself they battered us - so the late winner was simply the law of averages. Gutting that it was a foul and so near to the whistle for us but we had had our fair share of luck in the game up to that point.

Sometimes you just need to hold your hands up and say on the day the other team were just miles better than us. We have been better than lots of teams this year on the Turf so we should not be too despondent....though it is getting more than perplexing how these teams can batter us away from home and we are a match for them at home. Makes very little sense.

[Woodleyclaret]

Our Achilles again is Lowton our non tackling full back allowing his man to bomb down the wing for the equaliser then allowing the Swansea winger far too much room giving away needless corners which they knicked a winner from.Saying that why was our tallest defender Tarks not man marking Llorente

[Vegas Claret]

When Clement went up to Barton it was clearly very amicable with both smiling, no idea how anyone can try and create a "what's the story" thread about it

[simonclaret]

Other than yourself I have not heard anybody describing the Swansea win as "scraped"......dramatic but more than deserved late winner has been the general consensus.

Well, the BBC used the word 'edged' which is similarly unemphatic. But you're right, we got what we deserved.