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Brady wide right ?

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:54 pm

Yet another strange sub decision from the manager
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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by texasbrit » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:55 pm

Left footed Brady on the right has SD been sniffing glue again

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:56 pm

He obviously doesn't want to mess up the Arfield-Ward combination. He probably thinks Lowton is strong enough to survive without Brady supporting him.

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Post by claretspice » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:57 pm

I think the idea was to keep creating space for Lowton on the outside but i don't think it worked.

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Post by claretspice » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:58 pm

I think the idea was to keep creating space for Lowton on the outside but i don't think it worked.

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:59 pm

We've wasted £13m on Bradys left leg. There are ladies on this board with a better right leg.

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by MACCA » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:59 pm

Justified decision with the 2 attempted volleys that were blazed over, due to being on his weaker foot.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:59 pm

When we are trying to chase the game you don't put somebody out wide right who can't use his right foot
£13m for someone who has no right foot

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Post by jojomk1 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:02 pm

MACCA wrote:Justified decision with the 2 attempted volleys that were blazed over, due to being on his weaker foot.
Sorry MACCA but how is it justified when, as you say, he blasts 2 over because of his weaker foot

Not blaming him - just questioning the manager

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Post by MACCA » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:06 pm

jojomk1 wrote:Sorry MACCA but how is it justified when, as you say, he blasts 2 over because of his weaker foot

Not blaming him - just questioning the manager
Sorry I was being flippant. Martin Tyler mentioned it too.
But it has been like that forever so nothing new.

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Post by kaptin1 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:07 pm

Tactic was to keep a compact midfield, hence inverted wingers. We also deliberately played a number of long balls on free kicks for centre backs to try and knock down for others to latch on to. Again having inverted wingers makes sense in this scenario. It's not pretty to watch, but it did cause Livepool problems. Barnes in particular was unlucky not to equalise from that approach, just after Liverpool scored their second. We have to play the odds and the most likely way we are going to score away is by trying to counter and hitting it long. Playing expansive passing football with orthodox wingers against Liverpool (or most other Premier League sides for that matter) would get us nowhere. We simply don't have the quality to do that and be successful.
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Post by Diesel » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:11 pm

Don't get me started on this one...ffffffffffffffs!

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Post by KateR » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:12 pm

I thought very strange also and my feeling was that SA was doing nothing but run around on the left side, headless chicken sprang to mind, but it almost worked, but again for me strange but he is the one being paid to make those decisions not me.

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Post by TsarBomba » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:17 pm

Very strange decision.

Don't think Brady has ever played on the right in his career.

To expect him to come on and change a game in a position he has never played, and to cut inside, which is something he won't have done before, is asking a lot.

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Post by 3putt » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:17 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Tactic was to keep a compact midfield, hence inverted wingers. We also deliberately played a number of long balls on free kicks for centre backs to try and knock down for others to latch on to. Again having inverted wingers makes sense in this scenario. It's not pretty to watch, but it did cause Livepool problems. Barnes in particular was unlucky not to equalise from that approach, just after Liverpool scored their second. We have to play the odds and the most likely way we are going to score away is by trying to counter and hitting it long. Playing expansive passing football with orthodox wingers against Liverpool (or most other Premier League sides for that matter) would get us nowhere. We simply don't have the quality to do that and be successful.
We scored from playing expansive passing football and on the odd occasion we tried to do this again, we looked a threat.

Hoof football on the road has returned 2 points thus far, I would suggest it's not that effective.

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Post by Claretmatt4 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:19 pm

Agreed with all Dyche subs and when they were made but putting Brady on the right is madness.

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Post by claretdj » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:45 pm

Apart from the Chelsea goal Brady looks like a waste of £13 million, no right foot, his crossing is a joke, to lightweight as well...

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:49 pm

I think he wanted Arfield to stay left to stop Clyne getting forward. Whatever, it seemed a defensive mindset change not an offensive one, whereas when we are one down for 30 minutes I would have liked to see us go for it more with genuine width.

The away stats are improving, not the results yet but the wider stats, but I can't help but feel that the problem is one of bravery. Sides at the bottom grab the odd win against better sides away, but we rarely do. There has to be a reason, and I think the Brady sub epitomised it.

We do though often win away against worse sides - roll on Saturday.

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:06 pm

We should get rid now that Coyle and McLaren are on the market again
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Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:12 pm

Bring back Wally Wallace

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by IanMcL » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:04 am

It was said on Bein sports that he prefers being on the right.
I would imagine it was to keep the left sealed up, as it was working well.

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by claretandy » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:25 am

IanMcL wrote:It was said on Bein sports that he prefers being on the right.
I would imagine it was to keep the left sealed up, as it was working well.
Well Bein sports are wrong, he's never played on the right in his career.

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:35 am

I think people need to take a deep breath.
Brady hasn't hit the heights, so what. Neither did Hendrick for his first six games. It takes time to settle into a new team, and into a new system. Slagging him off on this message board isn't going to do the lad any good at all.

I can't understand the negativity surrounding yesterday's performance. I Iwas as happy with that as I was ****** off with the result. I suspect we have some new trolls out on a fishing expedition.
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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:35 am

The midfield work hard to get the ball out wide -then the wide player, being wrong footed has to come inside and give the ball to the midfield - pointless.

We spend the rest of the game punting the ball up to the front 2 from the defence - why not give them a better chance with a ball from wide areas

Play players based on the their strengths - This was a bad substitution

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by Cubanclaret » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:51 am

But we've played with wingers on the wrong wings for years. Hardly a new tactic.
Boyd usually on the right is much better on his left foot.
I think we generally found it easier to attack down Liverpool's left flank (like with the goal) so perhaps he thought that Brady would have some potential there. Modern wide players are just as likely to cut in from the wing and use their stronger foot than get to the bye line and pull a cross back.

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Post by TVC15 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:59 am

Brady needs time to bed in and I think he will be a great signing.

Personally I hate wingers playing on the wrong side. Many wingers are very one footed - anyone saying for x million pounds a player should be 2 footed is talking b-ollox.

I just think it makes little sense - Ward very rarely puts a cross in and Lowton has a tendency to over hit his crosses but does get in some great positions. Arfield and Boyd also rarely cross the ball.

Brady has a great left foot. He seems frustrated that he is not playing aswell as he knows he can - and having to cross or shoot with his wrong foot is not going to do his confidence any good.

Fortunately we know this can all change very quickly.

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Re: Brady wide right ?

Post by NRC » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:36 am

Don't think anyone is criticizing Brady per se, they're criticizing the overthinking of the substitution. Forget the potential of being able to repeat the damage down their left or because we have their right tied up. Brady's clear skill is wide left.

And our goal was from a choice made in central midfield,écluse of wing play

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