Dyche has a big problem.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:39 pm

Yes. You didn't. And ur comment backs that up.

Ssshhhhhhhhhhhh. Better to be thought of as an utter prick, than open ur trap (or post summat utterly wrong and shite and wrong and dogshit and wrong) and remove all doubt.

Now shag off.

Wilsdenclaret · Post by **Wilsdenclaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:39 pm

RattyClaret wrote:No problems at all great performance just that final ball into the box that is lacking

Wards crossing is great but lowtons needs to improve as we had players in the box or running in several times but he hits it too long or out of play

Maybe a week of crossing drills is in order we have the training facilities for it now

Lowton put in the slide rule pass of the season for the goal

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:41 pm

starting_11 wrote:Fantastic contribution to the thread.

Now when you learn to string a sentence together eloquently, please come back.

Did you really write that???

You're funny.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:41 pm

**** me, are you on crack or something.

I've no idea what you're talking about

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:42 pm

A product of Tory led education cuts it seems... such a shame.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:42 pm

I know you don't. I'm ok with that tho.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:45 pm

You didn't go to the game.

Yet you know what went wrong, how it went wrong, and what the tactics were? You haven't even seen the goals yet!!!

And you didn't go??

You didn't go???

Nothing I can say can make you more of a **** than your own posts.

Seriously, go home. You have had more than enough.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:48 pm

Can we stop with this di*k swinging contest and get the thread back on point please..

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:51 pm

Matt Lowton had his best game to date .He totally got the idea of right marking.Unlucky not to score at the end.But again slack marking cost us.Boyd allowed the cross over for first goal and no one picked up Can for second.
Subs an issue again why did Dan Ageyi only get 4 mind.Arfield should have been subbed much earlier.Liverpool were there for the beating but we didn't create enough to get a second.Defour a must v Mackems and Ageyi on from the start and really go for the win.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:52 pm

I have a magical window in my living room which uses sorcery and witchcraft to show images of what it is like to be there.

It truly is a marvel to see!

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:53 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Matt Lowton had his best game to date .He totally got the idea of right marking.Unlucky not to score at the end.But again slack marking cost us.Boyd allowed the cross over for first goal and no one picked up Can for second.
Subs an issue again why did Dan Ageyi only get 4 mind.Arfield should have been subbed much earlier.Liverpool were there for the beating but we didn't create enough to get a second.Defour a must v Mackems and Ageyi on from the start and really go for the win.

I personally wouldn't start with Ageyi but I really hope that we approach the game in a positive manner and go for all 3 points rather than set out our stall for a point

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:53 pm

bobinho wrote:You didn't go to the game.

Yet you know what went wrong, how it went wrong, and what the tactics were? You haven't even seen the goals yet!!!

And you didn't go??

You didn't go???

Nothing I can say can make you more of a **** than your own posts.

Seriously, go home. You have had more than enough.

What are you on about? I hope you're on something cos that would explain it. If you aren't I hope someone will persuade you to seek help.

dogwith3legs · Post by **dogwith3legs** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:01 pm

Nonsense post by the OP. I suppose it's a mark of how far we have come

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:02 pm

I'd like to see agyei get a little more than the tail end, especially when there has been no change in the tactics to exploit his strengths.

Starting him I don't believe is the answer.

Not an awful lot wrong with today, other than the odd individual mistake.

They were relieved to win. Says it all really.

It'll come.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:04 pm

dogwith3legs wrote:Nonsense post by the OP. I suppose it's a mark of how far we have come

Nonsense post?

Which points are nonsense exactly?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:07 pm

starting_11 wrote:Nonsense post?

Which points are nonsense exactly?

Just say all of it - it's easier and would be accurate anyway

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:08 pm

So we won, had great tactics, all of SD's new signings were on fire today and there were no problems?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:10 pm

starting_11 wrote:So we won, had great tactics, all of SD's new signings were on fire today and there were no problems?

You'll find there's a big space between the above and your opening post.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:10 pm

starting_11 wrote:Boring long hoofball comes back into play after scoring a goal.

Clearly there is a mental issue affecting players away from home - how it could affect them all the same would only be answered by looking at the gaffer.

His tactics are worked out too easily, he has no plan B and we're essentially playing the same team from 2 years ago because his transfers haven't worked out. They couldn't handle it then, they definitely can't handle it now.

I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up back in the Champ after this season. Not now.

What a load of rubbish. Go down to Deadwood and watch your football. Bit unlucky today. Whst do you think we should do pend £200 million. I also dispute your transfer comment. We lost goio players and have recruited fairly well. Not all transfers work out I know that but players take time to bed in. Unless of course we sign Messi and Suarez

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:12 pm

We have a problem that we haven't won away from home this season but and a big but is that we were not that bad today and with a little luck we could have got something from that game, I thought Liverpool tried to mirror us at times with the long kicks but were not getting the second touch like we did, our problem was our finishing was not what it should be.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:18 pm

taio wrote:Eh?

If people are going to blame the manager they may as well blame the fans (we're in it together)

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:19 pm

We have gone away to Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs and lost 2-1 in each. We also got a draw at Away at United. Against the big sides, it's only really been away at Chelsea were we ripped apart. Those are very creditable performance and suggest our tactics in those matches have been pretty good. Where we have struggled is against teams further down the league, with poor performances against Leicester, West Brom, Stoke, Southampton and West Brom (we did OK away at Hull, West Ham and Watford). West Brom in particular just played us at our own game and came out well on top. This is where we need to be doing better. Of our remaining away fixtures, we really need to be picking up at least one win from Sunderland, Boro, Bournmouth and Palace, otherwise we are probably relying on winning at least two out of five remaining home matches at home to guarantee safety. Ultimately I think we will scrape over the finish line, but suspect the gap will be less than seven points come the end of the season.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:19 pm

Well apart from the fact that fans don't have a say in what happens and the manager has 100% say... err ok

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:21 pm

starting_11 wrote:Boring long hoofball comes back into play after scoring a goal.

Clearly there is a mental issue affecting players away from home - how it could affect them all the same would only be answered by looking at the gaffer.

His tactics are worked out too easily, he has no plan B and we're essentially playing the same team from 2 years ago because his transfers haven't worked out. They couldn't handle it then, they definitely can't handle it now.

I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up back in the Champ after this season. Not now.

Good God another bellend BOT.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:24 pm

starting_11 wrote:Well apart from the fact that fans don't have a say in what happens and the manager has 100% say... err ok

So a manager who is the 5th best in the league at home is the worst away from home?

Or the players who follow instructions at home can't follow them away from home?

or our fans who are an extra man at home are not an extra man away from home?

If it were the manager we wouldn't be as good at home as we are so it must be either the players or the fans.

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:25 pm

No need to worry guys...i am off to Sunderland next week. My only other away game so far was Man Utd....lucky omen i am

For what it is worth i thought we played well although the lack of composure on the ball away from home was predictably poor and it's this hot potato and hoof it attitude that is costing us imo.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:30 pm

I thought today was one of the most exciting displays I'd seen from a Burnley team in many a year.... we went away to Anfield.... ANFIELD and bossed the game and had the scousers whistling for full time.... I wouldn't ever have dared dream to see that in my lifetime.

That some of you are still not happy after seeing THAT performance by us beggars belief. Fantastic effort well done SD take a bow lads, outstanding.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:37 pm

Wow NOT ANFIELD AND NOT... LIVERPOOL

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bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:38 pm

elwaclaret wrote:I thought today was one of the most exciting displays I'd seen from a Burnley team in many a year.... we went away to Anfield.... ANFIELD and bossed the game and had the scousers whistling for full time.... I wouldn't ever have dared dream to see that in my lifetime.

That some of you are still not happy after seeing THAT performance by us beggars belief. Fantastic effort well done SD take a bow lads, outstanding.

Don't worry elwa, the ones that are chopsing didn't go. They have seen the result, but not the game, or the effort, or the tactics.

Those who know, know.

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:38 pm

Twonk alert".............

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:43 pm

bobinho wrote:Don't worry elwa, the ones that are chopsing didn't go. They have seen the result, but not the game, or the effort, or the tactics.

Those who know, know.

You don't know it was on TV do you?

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:48 pm

Football is a game of opinions..... I am of the opinion starting_11 is a bit of nob

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:54 pm

starting_11 wrote:You don't know it was on TV do you?

I DO know, yes. What I also know is that instead of watching it on the TV, or live, you were doing something else.

What that was I can only guess.

Now, I'm more than a little bored of you.... please go to bed.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:55 pm

Couldn't make the game today so watched on tv. I thought we did really well, good game plan, usual energy and chances created. We just need that bit of luck, the ball dropping in the right area etc. Play like that next week and we just might get that elusive away win.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:03 pm

This is the main bit of what the OP said...

starting_11 wrote:Clearly there is a mental issue affecting players away from home - how it could affect them all the same would only be answered by looking at the gaffer.

His tactics are worked out too easily, he has no plan B and we're essentially playing the same team from 2 years ago because his transfers haven't worked out. They couldn't handle it then, they definitely can't handle it now.

I'm not sure what's there to disagree with. He's spot on. It's clearly phycological as we couldn't win a one ticket raffle on the road.

I might not be the biggest fan of the OP but that doesn't matter when you agree with most of what they've just said.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:06 pm

boatshed bill wrote:To be fair, Sid, there's plenty of chairmen who would have sacked a manager for being totally unable to conjure up one single away win by the middle of March.

Not a single chairman would sack a manager who's got his team 7 points ahead of the relegation zone with 11? games to play, regardless of away form.

Look at the clubs below us...

Boro - no league win of any sort this calender year, 19 goals in 27 league games and looking bereft of ideas.
Sunderland - no explanation needed.

Hull - giving it a go, but could be too late.

Swansea - no consistency and still not safe.

Leicester and Bournemouth are still in with a shout at relegation.

We aren't safe yet and the away form is a concern, BUT I'd rather be in our position then that of nearly a dozen other clubs.

It's also worth noting, we aren't being embarrassed every time we play away, sometimes its the narrowest of margins that we are losing by.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:07 pm

And yet Dyche must be doing something right with a similar team to the one two years ago.

How else have we got such a fantastic home record if his tactics are worked out too easily, or no plan B?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:11 pm

He messed up putting Brady on the wrong flank.

I also recall hearing Liverpool fans booing, could anyone confirm that?

We passed it back too often, which is surprising considering David Jones has left yet he was the main culprit apparently to many divs on here...

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:12 pm

When we got promoted in May the thought of playing Liverpool away was frightening particularly against players like Marni , Lalana and Coutinho. But today, like against all the big teams away from home we have played, we were magnificent and had a great belief in each other. We have come on immensely from the last time we were in the PL-you only have to look at the Internationals in the squad. WE had 11 heroes today with Keane & Mee truly outstanding as a defensive partnership, and Joey providing a bite in midfield I have not seen for years. I am hoping Andre and Barnes torment Sunderland on Saturday for our first three away points

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:16 pm

Next week's game at Sunderland will be the only one this season where S'land start as favourites. And that's for a reason!! Yes, we're putting in miles better showings than the ones earlier in the season at the likes of Leicester, Stoke and Southampton and since Spurs away where we were far more competitive and began with the "unlucky" mantra we have been much closer, but STILL have nowt! It's harsh to actually blame anybody imo except to say that we don't have the quality needed to nick points away from home in the toughest league in the world. We've had enough cracks at it for goodness sake. No one except the chap with the claret tinted laser eye surgery (mentioned on another thread) expects us to REALLY get anything at garbage, rubbish relegation certainties Sunderland. I've seen most of our away performances and I certainly don't! We're going to start dropping in the table alarmingly shortly and I genuinely fear we're going to go down.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:20 pm

I said pre match that I would be happy with a good performance, any kind of result would be a bonus.
I find myself sick that we didn't get at least the point we deserved, but over the moon with that display.
Yes we lost again, but there is losing as we did in the early part of the season, and losing the way we did to day. Proud of everyone of them, and they should be proud of themselves. We need to reproduce these performances between now and the end of the season. There are lots of teams in this league that are better than us, but there isn't any of them that we need to be frightened of.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:22 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Next week's game at Sunderland will be the only one this season where S'land start as favourites. And that's for a reason!! Yes, we're putting in miles better showings than the ones earlier in the season at the likes of Leicester, Stoke and Southampton and since Spurs away where we were far more competitive and began with the "unlucky" mantra we have been much closer, but STILL have nowt! It's harsh to actually blame anybody imo except to say that we don't have the quality needed to nick points away from home in the toughest league in the world. We've had enough cracks at it for goodness sake. No one except the chap with the claret tinted laser eye surgery (mentioned on another thread) expects us to REALLY get anything at garbage, rubbish relegation certainties Sunderland. I've seen most of our away performances and I certainly don't! We're going to start dropping in the table alarmingly shortly and I genuinely fear we're going to go down.

And yet Hull's away form is as bad as ours, if not worse (Their points haul came when Phelan was in charge), so what makes you think they'll get any more points away from home than we will.

And you can forget about Boro or Sunderland being good enough to get the points.

And as for us, the way we played today is still a good indicator that we'll win the majority of our five home games left, and that includes Spurs.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:24 pm

Wow! A bit harsh this forum at times.
If you can't see the progress from 2 years ago then you're probably not looking in the right direction.
We are performing well. Our away performances have been significantly better since Christmas and eventually it will happen.
This is a long term plan and I fully accept that the plan is still on course and I am happy with where we are right now.

Credit to the board, Sean and the coaching staff.

Another tough away fixture and a credible outing. On other occasions we could easily have won with the way we played...long ball or not.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:28 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:Next week's game at Sunderland will be the only one this season where S'land start as favourites. And that's for a reason!! Yes, we're putting in miles better showings than the ones earlier in the season at the likes of Leicester, Stoke and Southampton and since Spurs away where we were far more competitive and began with the "unlucky" mantra we have been much closer, but STILL have nowt! It's harsh to actually blame anybody imo except to say that we don't have the quality needed to nick points away from home in the toughest league in the world. We've had enough cracks at it for goodness sake. No one except the chap with the claret tinted laser eye surgery (mentioned on another thread) expects us to REALLY get anything at garbage, rubbish relegation certainties Sunderland. I've seen most of our away performances and I certainly don't! We're going to start dropping in the table alarmingly shortly and I genuinely fear we're going to go down.

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Some people!

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:29 pm

Spijed wrote:And yet Hull's away form is as bad as ours, if not worse (Their points haul came when Phelan was in charge), so what makes you think they'll get any more points away from home than we will.

And you can forget about Boro or Sunderland being good enough to get the points.

And as for us, the way we played today is still a good indicator that we'll win the majority of our five home games left, and that includes Spurs.

I'm bothered that our away from is such that we will actually get nothing in any away match and that includes Sunderland and Boro where we could even provide the catalyst for a mini revival of sorts because sometimes that's all it needs! Yes, Hull aren't good, but it only needs one team to catch us, not all 3. AND our home games are tough. Spurs are second and flying and Stoke and west Ham are probably draws. United? Owt could happen!

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:29 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:We're not unlucky, we're just ****.

When was a username so inappropriate?

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:31 pm

Guich wrote:When was a username so inappropriate?

In fairness he's got a point. You can't be unlucky 18 times!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:33 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I'm bothered that our away from is such that we will actually get nothing in any away match and that includes Sunderland and Boro where we could even provide the catalyst for a mini revival of sorts because sometimes that's all it needs! Yes, Hull aren't good, but it only needs one team to catch us, not all 3. AND our home games are tough. Spurs are second and flying and Stoke and west Ham are probably draws. United? Owt could happen!

I agree that they are very tough games, but we seem to thrive on them.

Edit: We also play West Brom.

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:37 pm

Today comments should be about this game not fetching previous stuff up.I thought we where very good and looked confident from start to finish.That first goal was typical of a good amount of our goals,a ball into the box and a lucky clip of the back of defenders heels then boom,thought it was unfortunate.The 2nd he had just caught it as sweet as a nut,Heaton dived early and well was just too good for any keeper.They really did play bloody well today,I hate people who are fickle and slag everyone off.we have probably 4 or 5 players there which many would take in this league,we are decent team.One poster said we are s..t Christ almighty!

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:39 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:I'm bothered that our away from is such that we will actually get nothing in any away match and that includes Sunderland and Boro where we could even provide the catalyst for a mini revival of sorts because sometimes that's all it needs! Yes, Hull aren't good, but it only needs one team to catch us, not all 3. AND our home games are tough. Spurs are second and flying and Stoke and west Ham are probably draws. United? Owt could happen!

We're in 12th place at the moment, so we actually need six teams to overtake us before we're in the bottom three.