where do atheists go when they die ?

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:39 pm

Just wondered what happened to them..

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:42 pm

Just because they don't believe doesn't mean it isn't true

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:45 pm

The same as everybody else, into the ground.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:52 pm

Or up in smoke

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:55 pm

I would have thought they will go to Hell..

KLClaret · Post by **KLClaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:55 pm

To the pub

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:56 pm

I'm a true agnostic. Wherever I go it will be a journey or it will be the end. Be interesting if there is a god and radical Muslims and extreme Christians are there side by side in his grace but us undecideds and critical thinkers are left in limbo.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:16 pm

No offence, pal, but agnostics aren't critical thinkers. No in my book, anyway.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:22 pm

conyoviejo wrote:I would have thought they will go to Hell..

Why? We don't believe in that either.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:25 pm

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Same as all other (ex) living creatures.

tjgh25 · Post by **tjgh25** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:26 pm

Think i will probably be worm food, not planning on getting cremated.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:29 pm

scouseclaret wrote:Why? We don't believe in that either.

Good question ..

Let's just assume If there is a God he will punish you for eternity for not believing in that God, then atheists will go to Hell..

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:29 pm

The Blackburn End.

Oh no, sorry that's the undead.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:30 pm

I'm not overly fussed if I'm toasted or fed to the worms, I'll be dead by that point with a bit of luck.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:31 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Good question ..

Let's just assume If there is a God he will punish you for eternity for not believing in that God, then atheists will go to Hell..

I'm sure the god squad keep telling people that he's all forgiving?
If that's the case we aren't going to some fictional hell.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:43 pm

Scotland

Guppyspotter · Post by **Guppyspotter** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:45 pm

I imagine that if there is a god then I will end up alongside all the other atheists, agnostics and theists who chose the wrong god.

KLClaret · Post by **KLClaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:51 pm

How come Adam and Eve have belly buttons? What's that all about?

holycustard · Post by **holycustard** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:57 pm

Adam told Eve it was a lift button and that she had to press it every time she went down.

tjgh25 · Post by **tjgh25** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:58 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Good question ..

Let's just assume If there is a God he will punish you for eternity for not believing in that God, then atheists will go to Hell..

Let's just assume if there isn't a God that theists will be dead for eternity like the rest of us.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:02 pm

tjgh25 wrote:Let's just assume if there isn't a God that theists will be dead for eternity like the rest of us.

But there is a God ..

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:05 pm

wherever Sean Dyche tells them to go

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:06 pm

conyoviejo wrote:But there is a God ..

I've had this chat on FB.

This is the part where I ask you to prove it.
You'll then ask me to disprove it.

The answer to that is if the god squad want people to believe then they've got to prove to people that God exists.
Until they can do that, atheists wont believe, because there is nothing to believe in.

Once humanity can get past the need to have a god as the focal point in their life then the world will be a much better place.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:11 pm

Stephen Fry sums it up better than I can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-d4otHE-YI

Sarum · Post by **Sarum** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:18 pm

To a funeral in most cases (I have no intention of attending mine).

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:19 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Just wondered what happened to them..

Barnoldswick

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:25 pm

The paradox is faith. Religion expects man to have total faith in something beyond science and yet total lack of faith in everything else i.e. a rational mind.

Cutsy you only end up in Barlick if you've spent your life in a*sewipe.

There is only one orgainzed atheist group and that's Buddhism, which is not religion but an atheist philosophy, so maybe ask them but don't bother as they're too busy licking the nuts of a medieval feudal lord.

tjgh25 · Post by **tjgh25** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:29 pm

conyoviejo wrote:But there is a God ..

But there isn't a God.

As Sidney said this back and forth could go on Ad infinitum. Until you can "prove" your claim is true i will hedge my bets that God doesn't exist.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:31 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Barnoldswick

Isn't Barnoldswick in Gods County nowadays

?

Sorry,that's another topic for discussion..

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:34 pm

God is spelt with a capital.If you say god,you are referring to the other one.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:34 pm

tjgh25 wrote:But there isn't a God.

As Sidney said this back and forth could go on Ad infinitum. Until you can "prove" your claim is true i will hedge my bets that God doesn't exist.

Until you can prove there isn't a God I will hedge my bets that he exists..

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:35 pm

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One can prove a simulacrum of God by revealing transcendental order. If one can even create a simulacrum of an omnipotent being then there's a fair chance that the real thing could be:

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:36 pm

conyoviejo wrote:But there is a God ..

How do you know?

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:40 pm

No Ney Never wrote:How do you know?

It says so in the Bible..

Flatline · Post by **Flatline** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:42 pm

The atheists will all be joining Stephen Fry,oh dear!

tjgh25 · Post by **tjgh25** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:57 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Until you can prove there isn't a God I will hedge my bets that he exists..

As i said previously this is exactly the sort of response I expected. Its a constant back and forth of he said, she said.

Personally i think that the burden of evidence should be to prove that something does exist rather than to proof it does not exist. Russell's teapot is a classic argument about this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But hey whatever, you and I are are free to believe whatever we want to. And i look forward to my supposed eternity in the warm glow of hellfire.

Squarepusher · Post by **Squarepusher** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:04 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Until you can prove there isn't a God I will hedge my bets that he exists..

I'm not sure how God would feel about you believing in Him as some sort of cosmic insurance policy. It's eternal damnation for you, I'm afraid.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:12 pm

Squarepusher wrote:I'm not sure how God would feel about you believing in Him as some sort of cosmic insurance policy. It's eternal damnation for you, I'm afraid.

That started 41 years ago,when I got married..

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:19 pm

I don't care. I don't even believe in atheism.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:19 pm

conyoviejo wrote:It says so in the Bible..

An article written in the Sunday Sport said that a London bus was found on the moon. I believe that London buses are real, their existence has been proven. I believe that the moon is real, its existence is provable. Should I believe everything that is written?

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:19 pm

Sidney1st wrote:I've had this chat on FB.

This is the part where I ask you to prove it.
You'll then ask me to disprove it.

The answer to that is if the god squad want people to believe then they've got to prove to people that God exists.
Until they can do that, atheists wont believe, because there is nothing to believe in.

Once humanity can get past the need to have a god as the focal point in their life then the world will be a much better place.

I beg to differ Sidney. I've thought about this before and questioned whether the world would be a better place without religion and my theory is that it wouldn't because I believe that there are too many people being good for the wrong reasons in fear of repercussions from God that the world would decend into chaos with these people without it.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:27 pm

Apply Pascal's wager.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:29 pm

The world makes more sense with a purposeful creative force, evolution is one example.
We are designed/created to see meaning everywhere.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:34 pm

They become an essential ingredient of Turtle soup.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:39 pm

As none of us knew we were going to be born or what a world we would inhabit, or that we might comprehend aspects of it, the best guess if we have no idea what happens after death, life was a miracle, death may be also.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:41 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:I beg to differ Sidney. I've thought about this before and questioned whether the world would be a better place without religion and my theory is that it wouldn't because I believe that there are too many people being good for the wrong reasons in fear of repercussions from God that the world would decend into chaos with these people without it.

It is said that religion provides the benchmark for what good is.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:41 pm

Living life as if it has a purpose is better than living it as if it really didn't matter.
It's when life matters that the worst and best of human action is seen.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:41 pm

Religion is merely a tool to control an uneducated/gullible population.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:43 pm

One to watch if one hasn't already.
Fry with his mate The Hitch.

https://youtu.be/V2wzsaZKiGo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:52 pm

KLClaret wrote:How come Adam and Eve have belly buttons? What's that all about?

There are two problems there.
1) As Adam was not of woman born he had no umbilicus
2) As Eve was fashioned out of Adam's rib she would be genetically identical to him and thus genetically XY. To be phenotypically female he would have to have XY Gonadal dysgenesis aka Swyer Syndrome. She/he would be infertile and not able to have had Cain and Abel.
Someone writing Genesis, like reporting to Houston, had a problem.