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The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Rodleydave » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:23 pm

Or was it green... Bob Lord had a regular column I seem to remember, in the Saturday sports paper... early 70s maybe... does anyone remember it... and even better have any collectors actually got any of them with the Lord column... :?:

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by clareteltel44 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:25 pm

Dave it was pink
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:31 pm

Not sure where the green came from - that was Blackpool's and Sheffield's.

Don't remember Lord having a column in it - but the Sports Pink (which sort of gave away the colour) was a must have for football fans at the time.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Bop » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:33 pm

Sort of went hand in hand with the old sports report theme tune on the radio.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:33 pm

In the mid 70s my dad made my mum go in a shop to buy a copy of the pink in her wedding dress. On the way to the reception from the church.

Was it the only or fastest way to see the football results on a Saturday?

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:35 pm

You got the results on Grandstand (TV) and Sport Report (radio) but if you missed them then the sports pink was the only way to get the results until the Sunday papers.
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Mayoclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:36 pm

As a child it intrigued me just how quickly it was printed - in fact it still does!!??
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:37 pm

Remember waiting for the Pink seller to arrive at Burnley CC during home matches.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Dazzler » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:43 pm

It also amazed me how quickly they got them to the newsagents.
I used to wait outside our local newsagents and they would arrive about 6pm.

I don't remember A Bob Lord column.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Paulclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:45 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Remember waiting for the Pink seller to arrive at Burnley CC during home matches.
So do I. I was the Burnley CC scorer in the 70s and Jimmy McIlroy was the reporter for the Burnley Express. Jimmy was (and still is) a lovely guy but he knew absolutely nothing about cricket. He used to sit with me for a time in the scorebox and asked me to let him know what was happening. When the Sports Pink arrived, it always had a report on the cricket and It was always interesting to see what Jimmy had written. :)
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by DCWat » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:47 pm

The sports report theme is still used isn't it? Never back at the car for the start of the programme these days.

I always remember going shopping as a kid and there'd always be a load of men outside Rumbelows at 15:45 and 16:45 watching the half times / full times through the shop window.

Those were the days :)

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Midmoorclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:52 pm

Used to rush home from the Turf just to listen to Sports Report and then get to Duke Bar in time for the Pink to be delivered.
Loved the theme music:-

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by claretblue » Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:58 pm

'...Or was it green...'

everything was black 'n white then! :roll:

:)

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by claretblue » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:You got the results on Grandstand (TV) and Sport Report (radio) but if you missed them then the sports pink was the only way to get the results until the Sunday papers.
my grandparents used to tell me scores if I'd missed them

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Juan Tanamera » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:03 pm

As a lad I grew up in Loveclough (4 miles from Burnley).
By the time I got off the bus back from the match, the paper lad was already selling the sports pink on our street.
Surprisingly quick printing and delivery back in the day.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by hampsteadclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:03 pm

I use to deliver them.

I would deliver the Evening Star at about 3.30pm onwards, and then go back to the paper shop at 6 to deliver 'the Pink'

It had all the scores and league tables in it which was great, but the match report was a bit thin [unsurprisingly].

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Guitargeorge » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:04 pm

The amazing thing about the speed of publication is that this was in the pre computer age. All of the results and tables would have to be drawn up without modern aids.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:08 pm

Paulclaret wrote:So do I. I was the Burnley CC scorer in the 70s and Jimmy McIlroy was the reporter for the Burnley Express. Jimmy was (and still is) a lovely guy but he knew absolutely nothing about cricket. He used to sit with me for a time in the scorebox and asked me to let him know what was happening. When the Sports Pink arrived, it always had a report on the cricket and It was always interesting to see what Jimmy had written. :)
Jimmy did exactly the same with me when I was scorer at LHCC in the mid 80s, I think he did reports for the Burnley Express then. I used to tell him what had happened and he'd give me a £1.

Although he was also a lovely man you can imagine my disappointment when Granville Shackleton turned up to report on proceedings. My wages were automatically a quid down!.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by claretblue » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:09 pm

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Paulclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:12 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:Jimmy did exactly the same with me when I was scorer at LHCC in the mid 80s, I think he did reports for the Burnley Express then. I used to tell him what had happened and he'd give me a £1.

Although he was also a lovely man you can imagine my disappointment when Granville Shackleton turned up to report on proceedings. My wages were automatically a quid down!.
You're absolutely right. I'd forgotten that he used to tip me for helping! :)

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:13 pm

I have a copy of an old sports pink at home somewhere.I think it's from around spring 1983. We'd just been beaten 2-0 at Cambridge and a kid called Andy Sinton had scored.

And LHCC had announced Kirti Azad as pro.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Stevebfc40 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:14 pm

Used to watch Bury with my Dad in the late 70's. After the game I'd wait to get autographs while he had a drink in the social club. Next to the social club they had a little lean to. From there they printed the sports pink or buff. Quite a crowd would wait. Was printed literally minutes after final whistle.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Rodleydave » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:22 pm

Amazing how some topics create such a nostalgic thread... I had to run down to the viaduct in Tod by the bus station where the lad sold them, or sometimes on the steps of the Palozzi's ice cream shop. I think I learned to read from the Pink.
The Bob Lord column just a hazy memory of a column somewhere... maybe he just wrote odd pieces when he was under fire... a bit like Mourhino uses the SKY sofa on Sunday mornings

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by minnieclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:26 pm

Guitargeorge wrote:The amazing thing about the speed of publication is that this was in the pre computer age. All of the results and tables would have to be drawn up without modern aids.
I guess it was all set up but for sliding the scores in and the new tables. If memory serves it had reports up to HT.
Along with many others I was astonished how they got it to Hassy for just after 6pm. I think they came from Blackbum.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Hendrickxz » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:27 pm

It was my displeasure to work on the Pink for a short while. It was pink but I think it might have gone to ordinary newsprint towards the end to save the guys in the print room having to change reels after printing the Saturday Telegraph. Jimmy Mac would have worked on the Pink when he was on the Telegraph staff -- before switching to the Burnley Express in the early 1980s. His big interest was the golf, but like the rest of us he would have been drafted in each Saturday and given a match, which was fine if you were into sport you were asked to cover. Like him, I had little interest in cricket and barely knew which end of the bat was which, so you had to blag it!
Covering football was better because you only had to stay until half time at non-league matches, which were presented a bit like court cases -- ie with latest score at about 4.15, then (Proceeding). Teletext and other "modern" sources of information did for it in the end. If you have a copy from 1983 reckon that might have been the last year of the Pink. I seem to remember that Sheffield had a late sports paper called the Green 'Un -- which always conjured up the image of bronchitic old blokes relieving their congested tubes.

Longsidetrumpet might remember whether Bob Lord had a column. Something in the back of my mind seems to think he might have -- but based on football and sport in general rather than Burnley FC?
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by bfccrazy » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:27 pm

Dazzler wrote:
I don't remember A Bob Lord column.
Maybe Bob Lord had a column in the Sports Green?

....

Why didn't all you fogies just google the results .... I'm sure 4g wasn't as bad as it is now at the geound.....

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Claretlad » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:27 pm

20 parkdrive tipped and a pink ....Was my shopping list early 60s..

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Paulclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:33 pm

Hendrickxz wrote:Jimmy Mac would have worked on the Pink when he was on the Telegraph staff -- before switching to the Burnley Express in the early 1980s.
I said he worked for the Burnley Express, but of course you're right. He had to be working for the Sports Pink or it wouldn't have been in the Saturday evening's paper. Memory playing up in my old age :oops: :D

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by edlass » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:45 pm

I remember going with my dad to get the pink in the evening after matches and that was in the mid 90's.

That was in Manchester though, not sure if it differed from Burnley.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by CleggHall » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:51 pm

In Rochdale you could get the Manchester Pink or Oldham Green 'Un, spoilt for choice.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by iluva64 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:58 pm

ALL I CAN REMEMBER IS THE GUY ON THE BUS STATION SELLING THEM AFTER THE MATCH NEXT TO THE BUS STOP WHERE I GOT MY BUS TO DUKE BAR

AND THE INEVITABLE INK ALL OVER YOUR HANDS AS IT WAS PRINTED SO FAST

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:13 pm

CT mentions not getting the results until the Sunday papers. This instantly reminded me of the goal pontoon game where you needed a team to score 11 goals over 4 games for you to win or something like that...
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:15 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:Jimmy did exactly the same with me when I was scorer at LHCC in the mid 80s, I think he did reports for the Burnley Express then. I used to tell him what had happened and he'd give me a £1.

Although he was also a lovely man you can imagine my disappointment when Granville Shackleton turned up to report on proceedings. My wages were automatically a quid down!.
Granville was someone you just couldn't possibly dislike - I'm sure he'd have given you £1 if pushed. :D
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by mikeS » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:15 pm

Hot off the press, the pinks were still warm when you got em.
Printed on pink paper, matches then finished at 4:40 as half-time was only ten minutes so the results were usually complete apart from any late kick offs.
My round was Gannow Top and Whittlefield, for Jack Shufflebottoms paper shop on Padiham Road.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by hampsteadclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:19 pm

I know young 'Shuffy' - he'll be delighted his dad got a mention.. :D

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Post by mikeS » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:30 pm

The shop had all the comics and magazines hung up in the entrance as you walked in. Beano, Dandy and Charles Buchans Football Monthly clear favourites of mine.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:42 pm

Just unearthed the very last edition of the 'Sports Pink', dated Dec 17th '83, including a farewell column on the front page.

We were 7th in the Third Division after a 4-1 win away at Wimbledon. All kinds of interesting features but Bob Lord never contributed to my knowledge.

A snippet that made me smile states that Burnley manager John Bond was given a pleasant surprise on the team's arrival at Plough Lane for the game against Wimbledon when supporter Michael Rumney gave the Burnley boss a birthday card signed by more than 30 fans to mark the manager's 51st birthday !!

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Hendrickxz » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:43 pm

Rodleydave its a pretty long shot but if you ring the offices in Blackburn they might still have some copies. I know all the daily editions were eventually transferred to microfilm (remember that!), but whether they retained any copies or record of the Sports Pinks I really don't know. I suspect not, but you can only ask.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Rodleydave » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:46 pm

Hendricks will do that via someone I know there. Thanks

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Cliviger Academicals » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:13 pm

Growing up in Sunderland in the 50's we had a Sports Pink, until the team were relegated for the first time in their history in 1958. The paper then became green, until we were promoted again when it reverted to pink, (unfortunately not for long) then green again!
I remember going down to Mr Harvey's newsagents at 6pm with my father, he got the pink, I got a 6d Cadbury's bar of chocolate then back home to watch 'Dixon of Dock Green'.
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by claretbob » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:20 pm

Have an old pre sports pink telegraph sports edition from 1962 the day Burnley played Spurs in front of 44,000! Have a feeling Bob Lord was writing in it i'll have to check it out. Certainly by the late 70s when I was reading them the colour had changed to Pink and it was Peter Noble rather than Bob Lord who had a column. Picked a few up from 1976-82 over the years and they make a good read.I can remember waiting at the local newsagents in Clitheroe for copies around 6.30pm with the old timers and hearing some great stories about the old times. It was all part of growing up as a member of the Claret family.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:20 pm

Royboyclaret wrote:Just unearthed the very last edition of the 'Sports Pink', dated Dec 17th '83, including a farewell column on the front page.

We were 7th in the Third Division after a 4-1 win away at Wimbledon. All kinds of interesting features but Bob Lord never contributed to my knowledge.

A snippet that made me smile states that Burnley manager John Bond was given a pleasant surprise on the team's arrival at Plough Lane for the game against Wimbledon when supporter Michael Rumney gave the Burnley boss a birthday card signed by more than 30 fans to mark the manager's 51st bihrthday !!
Recall that day being the one when a bomb went off outside Harrod's. A commemorative plaque stands there to WPC Jane Arbuthnot, I believe.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:26 pm

On the topic of 'The Sports Pink' I was sent down to Driver's newsagents on Bury Rd. in Haslingden just after 6 pm every Saturday night to collect it in the 60's. When I got it back home I was usually the last one to read it.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by longsidetrumpet » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:29 pm

As royboy says, the last-ever Sports Pink was published on December 17th, 1983, also the day of the last edition of the Evening Star, the Telegraph-published paper aimed at Burnley, Pendle and Rossendale for those who don't remember. But the main reason I remember the date was my son was born on December 17th, 1983, as well! And no hendricksz, I don't ever remember a Bob Lord column, and I read the Pink from the 60s until it closed. I used to get our pink in the 60s from Tom Mullins's shop at the top of Rimington Ave, opposite the Tesco that used to be the Brunshaw pub. It was later run by Adam Blacklaw. And I knew little about cricket when I covered it!

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:38 pm

I used to go on the Turf with my mate who lived next door (amongst others) and I can still recall his mother stood on her front door step, fag hanging off her bottom lip, when asked where he was saying, "gone to buy a 'Pink', he went to see the match now he can't wait to bloody well read about what happened!".

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Spike » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:28 pm

My Dad was a printer on the Sports Pink. I've got some of the actual photographs that were printed in the 70s

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by NL Claret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:58 pm

As a Bury claret used to have to read the MEN pink but still did from cover to cover. All the league tables, match reports that had been phoned in probably with a typist at the other who had no idea how to spell some of the player names. Then on to non league football, it was packed with local sport...RU, RL, darts , snooker, bowls the lot.

You had to be at the off licence (in my early days) with my dad to get a copy, he probably got a watneys or whatever they were called. When older always made sure I was at the coop late shop to get a copy as soon as the van turned up to avoid disappointment.

The Pink (MEN version) lasted into the 2000s I think, Sheffield and Norwich had their versions too. Oh and little Bolton had the BUFF.

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by claretfern » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:08 pm

Remember 'The Pink' with much fondness. Used to rush to the Newsagents on Cog Lane with my mate to get a copy. "Granville Shackleton with the Clarets" & "Alf Thornton with the Rovers" Match reports tended to end abruptly in order to get their copy done in time for printing. Late KO's had a star symbol instead of the score, I recall. League tables shown down the right hand column with lots of abbreviations. Burnley and Blackburn listed in darker ink. I'm sure I've an old copy somewhere...
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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:17 pm

Used to get the Pink (Manchester) and the Green Un, (Sheffield).
Sometimes used to be people waiting for them to arrive. :)

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Re: The old Saturday Sports Pink

Post by Claretpants » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:29 pm

I seem to recall the Scottish results were actually the scores as they stood in the 80th minute of the game that were printed

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