If you were Keane, stay or go ?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:15 pm

Possibly could become the most sought after defender in the Prem, the highest paid maybe ? possibly encouragement from the board to go as the money we might get for him would allow us to sign a number of other players in different positions and Tarks would take the place, but what would you do ?
Me if I was him sadly I would go to pastures new but not until I had signed a new contract with a massive release clause to ensure the manager and club who made me what I am could progress. He will win medals, he will get caps but I think he is the sort of player who will move for football reasons and not cash.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:17 pm

Give up footie and breed llamas.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:21 pm

The Liverpool glamour boy who advertises male facial products would be disgusted with that suggestion.................oh llamas.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:23 pm

I'd be off.
I'd thank the club and staff privately and the obligatory message given to the media too.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:55 pm

Go. He's bigger than us. This lad will captain England. He needs to play for a big club. He's easily top six.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:15 pm

Keane should go in the Summer..he's probably on £25k or so a week for us and could double or treble that playing for a big Club !
If we insist on him staying, his value will decrease until he could leave for nothing in the Summer of 2018..

From Steven Fletcher, Charlie Austin, Kieron Trippier, and Danny Ings, we must be acquiring a reputation as a Club where you can come, develop, do well, and know that the Club won't stand in your way if a big Club/bigger money comes calling.... benefits all parties..

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:47 am

Apparently United get 25% if we sell Keane.
So, for example, if United offer £40 million, they would only be paying £30 million.
Liverpool would therefore have to offer £30 million to match United's £40 million.
I hope that makes sense !!

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:03 am

he should stay and fight on until his legs go. We gave him a big chance, he made the grade, therefore no club should be a bigger lure. He's only young and gets paid a fortune already. Loyalty should count for something one day.

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:19 am

Stay.
This is simply the best feckin football club, in the best small but feckin proud town,with the best feckin history, the best feckin fans, the best feckin manager, the best feckin board ever.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:30 am

i cannot understand why messi doesnt want to come to Burnley, I would if i were him.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:31 am

Its Burnley ! why play anywhere else?

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:36 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:i cannot understand why messi doesnt want to come to Burnley, I would if i were him.

Me too. We'd probably even think of a great song for him sooner or later.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:39 am

Vintage Claret wrote:Me too. We'd probably even think of a great song for him sooner or later.

"You're not Robbie Blake...."

I remember singing that to Rooney.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:54 am

Theres a few reasons why he could want to stay. But logically he should move on. And thats not even because right now he could treble his wage.

His stock is high with Burnley. He has progressed and developed with Burnley. But he could be even better at a bigger club. Sure there would be more focus on him but as a good player he will have confidence in his own ability.

Money aside he should move because:
More chance of trophies (that stil matters to some)
More chance of becoming an England STARTER

If his move fails he would always be welcome back here. He would be foolish to stay when his stock is so high.

He came here to get regular football and saw us as a stepping stone. We have more than done that. He should thank us and move on and we then become the opportunity for someone else.

If we keep being the club where promising youngsters want to come and progress then thats only a good thing. All parties benefit. We will keep progressing too and who knows.

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:40 am

Definitely move on...........clearly earmarked for greater things like Cahill was..........doesn't carry a massive ego around and he'd surely go with everyone's best wishes aka Trippier.......

Then it's Tarky's turn to step up......

alicante claret · Post by **alicante claret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:48 am

With one year left of contract will the board want sell at the end of season rather than allowing him to run down contract? Until we are certain to be playing Premier League football it is rather academic.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:50 am

He's got to go. It looks like there will be a few of the big clubs bidding against each other he simply can't turn them down.

As stated it's great for us as we become more of an obvious choice for promising players with an increasing list of players allowed the chance to develop and then progress their career at a bigger club.

As his stock seems to rise almost weekly with ex players talking him up then we should be looking at a massive payday. I'd be disappointed if we don't get 30m given the prices of players now.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:13 am

He'll leave in the summer, I just hope he makes the right footballing decision and isn't wooed the the short term big money like Sinclair or Rodwell. Seems to have a good head on his shoulders though.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:30 am

Sidney1st wrote:"You're not Robbie Blake...."

I remember singing that to Rooney.

And we were right to Sidney. Robbie made him look distinctly average that game.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:33 am

alicante claret wrote:With one year left of contract will the board want sell at the end of season rather than allowing him to run down contract?

Absolutely no chance the board will allow him to run his contract down given the fee we would get in the summer.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:36 am

taio wrote:Absolutely no chance the board will allow him to run his contract down given the fee we would get in the summer.

Not in anyway saying Keane is the sort to do this but surely it'd be his call? If he said he wants to stay until the end of his contract and then look at his options, there's not a lot the board could do about it.

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:40 am

I'll be very surprised if Keane didn't move this summer especially with the Euros in 2018. That said I think Keane will need assurances from potential suitors that he is going to play on a regular basis. He obviously has that at Burnley, however if he went to a bigger club especially one in the top 4 there wouldn't be that guarantee. I personally feel, from a development point of view, he could do with another 12 months with us, but in saying that I hope he's not allowed to run his contract down.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:43 am

He'll have plenty of options in the summer. He'll also have a huge new salary, there's no chance he'd say I'll stay for another year to run my contract down.

Judging his character and the way he is clearly thankful to Burnley I'd say he's more likely to sign a deal with a release clause in than screw us over running his deal down.

Saying that, he's clearly going anyway so it's irrelevant.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:53 am

Geoff wrote:Not in anyway saying Keane is the sort to do this but surely it'd be his call? If he said he wants to stay until the end of his contract and then look at his options, there's not a lot the board could do about it.

In theory, yes. In this case and in practice, no.

Claret&Green · Post by **Claret&Green** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:02 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Theres a few reasons why he could want to stay. But logically he should move on. And thats not even because right now he could treble his wage.

His stock is high with Burnley. He has progressed and developed with Burnley. But he could be even better at a bigger club. Sure there would be more focus on him but as a good player he will have confidence in his own ability.

Money aside he should move because:
More chance of trophies (that stil matters to some)
More chance of becoming an England STARTER

If his move fails he would always be welcome back here. He would be foolish to stay when his stock is so high.

He came here to get regular football and saw us as a stepping stone. We have more than done that. He should thank us and move on and we then become the opportunity for someone else.

If we keep being the club where promising youngsters want to come and progress then thats only a good thing. All parties benefit. We will keep progressing too and who knows.

Yeah we could become the new Southampton

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:12 am

Id go and let burnley reap the rewards

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:17 am

Are Burnley going to progress quickly enough over the next 4 years to match the wages and opportunity to play at the highest level of club football that may be available to him by moving this summer? Probably not.

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:24 am

Be stunned if United don't want him back, all their centre backs are terrible

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:40 am

MT03ALG wrote:Apparently United get 25% if we sell Keane.
So, for example, if United offer £40 million, they would only be paying £30 million.
Liverpool would therefore have to offer £30 million to match United's £40 million.
I hope that makes sense !!

We'd have to pay Utd 25% of the £30m so we'd only get £22.5m of that

Liverpool would have to offer at least £40m otherwise we'd lose out

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:49 am

'...He needs to play for a big club...'

he does!

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:13 am

MT03ALG wrote:Apparently United get 25% if we sell Keane.
So, for example, if United offer £40 million, they would only be paying £30 million.
Liverpool would therefore have to offer £30 million to match United's £40 million.
I hope that makes sense !!

I shall try and work that out and get back to you. At the moment it doesn't.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:15 am

wilks_bfc wrote:We'd have to pay Utd 25% of the £30m so we'd only get £22.5m of that

Liverpool would have to offer at least £40m otherwise we'd lose out

I think you need to redo your sums

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:22 am

I'd go. He's perfectly capable of playing for a bigger club with better players and with a better chance of winning medals. Oh and more £'s, innit.

claretabroad · Post by **claretabroad** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:41 am

From a financial perspective it is a no brainer. He will easily treble and maybe even quadruple his wages with a move to a top six club. From a football perspective it isn't as clear. There are many examples of younger players getting their dream move to a 'big' club and then finding their development stunted by a lack of playing time. At the end of the day MK will make the decision that is best for him and his family (and his agent) and when he does move on it will be with my gratitude. He came to us as a highly rated young defender and will leave as a full international which can only be a positive selling point for our club when we try and bring other young players in.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:52 am

It's the Lad's career. He's been brilliant while at burnley but of course the day will soon come when he will join a major Club. And like Trippier, good luck to Michael! He will always be a part of the Claret's history and we should all be proud to watch him grow.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:46 pm

Geoff wrote:I think you need to redo your sums

Why's that?

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:59 pm

Some mathematicians on here. Manyoo would only PAY us the net as we would owe them the 25%. Any other club would have to pay the 40 million gross so we could pass the 25% on and still achieve the same net amount

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:47 pm

He shouldn't be playing for Burnley next season. I'd love him to stay but he should be playing Champions League football.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:50 pm

Could we sell Keane to Man United, but include another 25% sell on fee?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:54 pm

Man Utd should buy him for £200m then they would get a massive £50m from the sell on clause.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:56 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Man Utd should buy him for £200m then they would get a massive £50m from the sell on clause.

Makes sense
Don't think they'd be daft enough to let a player go then buy him back for 100 million or so
Oh hold on....

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:01 pm

In 12 months time, the thread will be: "If you were Tarkowski, stay of go?"