A British version of Guantanamo bay for the defeated returning Jihadists ?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:27 am

bfc making some toast

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:32 am

Oh my God, what have I started?!!!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:38 am

"OMG it's an immigrant and he's trying to get in." - bfcjg. Probably.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:42 am

OMG. What if the terrierists invent submarines?!

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:34 am

[quote="Imploding Turtle"]OMG. What if the terrierists invent submarines?!/quote]
So now you've lowered yourself to silly gifs and anybody who doesn't agree with me is a racist. Give me strength.

The world is individuals. I don't give a flying f'*k about the colour of their skin or their religion. They are either good people or bad people. If you travel to a war zone and are not there for humanitarian reasons you are there to fight.
If you are there for humanitarian reasons you will be documented, by your organisation, and fair play to you. If you are there to fight you are an enemy of Britain and as such should be banged up.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:08 am

There is a difficult balance to be struck. All the talk of these terrorists will not change our way of life is palpable nonsense because in small areas it has. Yasser Arafat and the IRA started that decades ago. And as more and more of these attacks go on so our "freedoms" will be eroded. Eventually things will settle but probably not in my childrens' life time.
At the moment it is terrorism in the name of Islam, so I'm afraid Muslims have to sort it which given that the Shia Sunni schism is as bad as the RC Protestant one of hundreds of years ago and in part as recent as the 1970's-1990's in the UK, it will take generations to settle.
Added to all that we reap the rewards of our (Europe and to a lesser extent the USA) interference in drawing the boundaries in Africa and the Middle East. Perhaps the settled parts of the World we colonised like USA,Canada S.America and Australasia has stemmed from the fact that we largely wiped out the Natives of those parts of the World.
I think it was Lancaster who pointed out that London which is now >50% "Non-English" manages to get on with life pretty well and the present problems with "Muslims" does really stem from a miniscule number of people who have got it into their heads that the teachings of some leaders is the way forwards .
What we and the Muslim community have to do is to find those people and take them off the streets so to speak. That is not easy but we could start by screening the teachings of those religious teachers who come to live here. I have no idea whether we are doing this or not.
Finally a lot of "baddies" we have found here have been homegrown not imported.
For those who wish to bang people away "just in case" please re-visit what we did in Ireland with internment without trial.
It was so successful that we stopped it long before the Belfast Agreement.
It probably put more "terrorists/freedom fighters" on to the streets of NI than it took off

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:02 am

Trying to impose democracy in culturally different countries does not help. The tyrants in charge of Iraq and Libya kept some sort of stability between different religions. By removing them a mess has been created with breeding grounds for extremism. As for London everytime I go on the tube as a member of the indigenous population I am always in a minority. It is not representative of the rest of Britain.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:05 am

Any post trying to encourage proper punishment for murderers and terrorists soon has the loony lefties queuing up to post.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:14 pm

Isle of Man.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:32 pm

Time to remember when several on here were defending this very silly argument:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ers-damned" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Of course, this legislation was introduced with the intention that we shan't be left with any kind of Guantanamo limbo when the terrorist supporters return home from their pariah Muslim state.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:59 pm

minnieclaret wrote: So now you've lowered yourself to silly gifs and anybody who doesn't agree with me is a racist. Give me strength.

no, moron. I'm mocking one person being absolutly petrified to the point where he wants to delete British Values™

Also, where the **** did "anyone who doesn't agree with me is a racist" come from? LMAO. Is that the default term of fucktards everywhere now, even if it's completely irrelevent and no accusation of racism has even been made?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:15 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote: no, moron. I'm mocking one person being absolutly petrified to the point where he wants to delete British Values™

Also, where the **** did "anyone who doesn't agree with me is a racist" come from? LMAO. Is that the default term of fucktards everywhere now, even if it's completely irrelevent and no accusation of racism has even been made?

Wow you sure hit a nerve there Minnie

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:23 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Wow you sure hit a nerve there Minnie

Yeah, he hit my funny bones because i'm still laughing at his post

How's that 'draining the swamp' going?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:49 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yeah, he hit my funny bones because i'm still laughing at his post

How's that 'draining the swamp' going?

A true represent of the UK's soft under belly.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:45 pm

Blackrod wrote:Any post trying to encourage proper punishment for murderers and terrorists soon has the loony lefties queuing up to post.

The 'left' (you used the word, not me) aren't asking for them to be pardoned. I'd just rather not abandon due process.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:13 pm

Spiral wrote:The 'left' (you used the word, not me) aren't asking for them to be pardoned. I'd just rather not abandon due process.

You are the soft under belly of this country that will see it be destroyed by Jihadis in Bugattis.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:25 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote: no, moron.

Here we go, turtle shows his true colours again, it doesn't take long.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:25 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You are the soft under belly of this country that will see it be destroyed by Jihadis in Bugattis.

If those aren't Goldie Lookin Chain lyrics, I'll be very sad.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:42 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:Here we go, turtle shows his true colours again, it doesn't take long.

Awww. Did i hurt your feelings? You poor little snowflake.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:32 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:Here we go, turtle shows his true colours again, it doesn't take long.

I know posters have been banned for calling people morons.
Report him lets see if we all play by the same rules.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:35 pm

No, you don't

Like a few on here, you heard stuff from someone, and think yep, thats got to be true.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:06 pm

bartons baggage wrote:I know posters have been banned for calling people morons.
Report him lets see if we all play by the same rules.

Who has been banned for that?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:16 pm

cricketfield claret,was banned for calling some one a moron.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:21 pm

I don't believe you. I bet he was banned for something much more than that, if he was even banned at all. And what about the other posters you know who have been banned for it? You said there was more than one.

Also, when people on here offer me out or get personal or simply call me names, not once have i reported them. Because i'm not a pussy.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:32 pm

I beg to differ,i think you are a pussy,because in real life you would be more respectful of other peoples opinions,because if you talked to me like you talk to some folk on here i'd knock you into next week.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:33 pm

Corbynistas running amok on this thread. I refuse to be drawn.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:37 pm

bartons baggage wrote:I beg to differ,i think you are a pussy,because in real life you would be more respectful of other peoples opinions,because if you talked to me like you talk to some folk on here i'd knock you into next week.

You really believe that i don't call people 'idiots' in person?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:38 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Corbynistas running amok on this thread. I refuse to be drawn.

Errm...

I've got bad news for you.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:32 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Corbynistas running amok on this thread. I refuse to be drawn.

Nobody attempted to draw you in. Nor did anyone mention Corbyn, FWIW. I have you bookmarked in my mind as 'bloke who makes every thread a Corbyn thread'. Just propose to the bloke and be done with it.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:02 pm

bfcjg wrote:There are to many cases of Jihadists killing people after a jail sentence or a break down in surveillance.

1: How many cases?

2: You want to move ISIS to which remote Scottish island?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:07 pm

Spiral wrote:Nobody attempted to draw you in. Nor did anyone mention Corbyn, FWIW. I have you bookmarked in my mind as 'bloke who makes every thread a Corbyn thread'. Just propose to the bloke and be done with it.

Did you know that the clocks go forward tonight?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:10 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You really believe that i don't call people 'idiots' in person?

So we have the Burnley's answer to Ian Hislop.
Yes you have a lot of his characteristics apart from the humorous one's.
You think your'e the in the know political commentator,when in reality any one who disagrees with you gets taunted with childish insults.
As for your reply i can only guess that your'e a carer for people with severe learning difficulties?.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:33 pm

When you compare the views of the National Rifle Association in America with ISIS I know which one you are likely to be safer with, and it isn't the NRA.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:32 pm

bartons baggage wrote:So we have the Burnley's answer to Ian Hislop.
Yes you have a lot of his characteristics apart from the humorous one's.
You think your'e the in the know political commentator,when in reality any one who disagrees with you gets taunted with childish insults.
As for your reply i can only guess that your'e a carer for people with severe learning difficulties?.

You have to be pretty stupid to think that anyone who disagrees with me get subjected to childish insults. Disagreeing with me has nothing to do with it.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:42 pm

Point proven

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:51 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You have to be pretty stupid to think that anyone who disagrees with me get subjected to childish insults. Disagreeing with me has nothing to do with it.

Message board bully

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:58 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Message board bully

If you say or do something stupid i'll tell you it was stupid. If you keep doing it i'll tell you you are stupid. None of this has anything to do with agreeing with me or not, because that would be stupid.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:34 am

A 9 mill pill behind the ear cures all religious indoctrination. If it doesn't, a second almost certainly will. It wouldn't be the first time but, if you do, make sure there aren't any witnesses for the prosecution.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:12 am

Spijed wrote:When you compare the views of the National Rifle Association in America with ISIS I know which one you are likely to be safer with, and it isn't the NRA.

Wow.

I'll take a break in mid-America.

You take yours in ISIS held territory.

We'll compare notes if you get back.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:53 am

Rowls wrote:Wow.

I'll take a break in mid-America.

You take yours in ISIS held territory.

We'll compare notes if you get back.

I never mentioned anything about going to either America or ISIS held territory. It was purely based on the bile spouted by either.

Why don't you look at gun related deaths in America as opposed to those committed by terrorists. What's worse?

The NRA, like ISIS are a very dangerous organisation, run by lunatics!

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:19 am

NRA for me too. Ridiculous comparison.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:23 am

Blackrod wrote:NRA for me too. Ridiculous comparison.

Taken from this article:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/03/us/te ... -violence/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"For every one American killed by an act of terror in the United States or abroad in 2014, more than 1,049 died because of guns.
Using numbers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, we found that from 2001 to 2014, 440,095 people died by firearms on US soil. (2014 is the most recent year for which the CDC has data for deaths by firearms.) This data covered all manners of death, including homicide, accident and suicide.
According to the US State Department, the number of US citizens killed overseas as a result of incidents of terrorism from 2001 to 2014 was 369.
In addition, we compiled all terrorism incidents inside the United States and found that between 2001 and 2014, there were 3,043 people killed in domestic acts of terrorism.* This brings the total to 3,412."

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:45 am

I do get the sense that those to the left particularly IT seem to think or suggest (at some point) that anyone to the right arguing against them is a moron or stupid. It may not be a direct accusation but is implied nonetheless.

No need for it.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:02 am

The thread was about protecting UK citizens from terrorist attacks, obviously this gives the usual idiots the opportunity not to debate but to name call , insult and the latest jolly jape images of cats with side splitting hillarity.Google concern over returning Jihadists and even left wing commentators are extremely concerned about our open door policy and the influence these things have in their community's amongst some. There needs to be a deterrent and my solution is no return or return to a secure area away from mainland UK . On the plus side though if and when an atrocity is commited by a returning Jihadist this board's hillarious prankster can cheer up the relations and friends of the dead and injured with a cat video.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:10 am

bfcjg wrote:The thread was about protecting UK citizens from terrorist attacks, obviously this gives the usual idiots the opportunity not to debate but to name call , insult and the latest jolly jape images of cats with side splitting hillarity.Google concern over returning Jihadists and even left wing commentators are extremely concerned about our open door policy and the influence these things have in their community's amongst some. There needs to be a deterrent and my solution is no return or return to a secure area away from mainland UK . On the plus side though if and when an atrocity is commited by a returning Jihadist this board's hillarious prankster can cheer up the relations and friends of the dead and injured with a cat video.

You should realise no thread ends as it begins, especially once Rows, IT and Blue Labrador get their teeth into it!

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:14 am

There is a piece of land thats got a wall across (may need to be raised a bit and some repair work and a frightening commandant to run it called Nicola ( well she frightens me) perhaps BFCJG could run interrogation and re education of suspected terrorists, they still have ducking stools and stakes that are part of history these could be brought out cleaned up and used to decide who is who.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:18 am

Peter Kay aka pureclaret

just soooooo funny.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:39 am

Corky wrote:I do get the sense that those to the left particularly IT seem to think or suggest (at some point) that anyone to the right arguing against them is a moron or stupid. It may not be a direct accusation but is implied nonetheless.

No need for it.

You do have to be pretty stupid to think that this is why we call people stupid.

Edit: well, i'm sure some do but I certainly don't. As i've pointed out a number of times now.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:00 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Awww. Did i hurt your feelings? You poor little snowflake.

No, I just don't understand the need for the abuse, does it make you feel tough or something?

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:34 pm

bfcjg wrote:If one pathetic individual in a hire car with a couple of knives from B@M Bargains can cause so much destruction, misery and death what can a real psychopathic idiot do who has shot children, burnt people alive, tortured people for being gay,non muslim, wrong sort of muslim music lover film lover etc etc do ? can we really allow these things back into our country with a promise that they will "honest to goodness crescent my heart and hope to die not do anything naughty " liberal we are tolerant so go to the police station once a day regime and believe them ? For me I would lock them up on a remote Island until they were to senile (or preferably dead) to do anything. All this oh you'll upset people if you do that is bull as its giving in to bullies. Agree disagree fine but if we cant track the nutters already here how the hell do we track another few hundred who can stick a burka on (male or female) and escape surveillance.

You won't get any joy out of the liberals on here mate. They like to feel superior to us all by their condescending attitudes towards anyone who dares to question their tolerant beliefs. They fail to recognise just how big of a problem we have and think it can be resolved by holding hands and playing happy families.