Worst XI since 2000

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:22 pm

We've been blessed with some great times since 2000, but what's your worst XI from then to now?

One rule - must have started at least one game.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:42 pm

Diego Penny in goal

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:50 pm

Andre Bikey
Brian Stock
Dane Richards
Paul Gascoigne
Dele Adelbola

for starters

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:54 pm

Roche and Easton as full backs.

Van Der Melt as the invisible midfielder.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:54 pm

Bikey was decent at times. He was immense against man utd.

Neil wood.
Richard eckersley.
Leon cort.
Dane Richards.
Jutkiewicz for his goal return alone has to feature. Done well elsewhere but awful for us.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:59 pm

I forgot about Eckersley.

Another one of Owen's. Thanks Owen.

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:00 pm

Wayne Thomas
Fred Nimani

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:05 pm

Graham Branch in central defence.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:05 pm

Delfouneso was quite terrible.

Must be ore from early 2000s.

Paul McVeigh wasn't very good.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:05 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Graham Branch in central defence.

Get out

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:08 pm

Stephen Jordan
Stephen Jordan
Stephen Jordan
Stephen Jordan

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:16 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Bikey was decent at times. He was immense against man utd.

Neil wood.
Richard eckersley.
Leon cort.
Dane Richards.
Jutkiewicz for his goal return alone has to feature. Done well elsewhere but awful for us.

Didn't Wood score on his debut against Norwich I think

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:47 pm

Stephen Jordan, whilst not in anybody's best XI, should no way be in the worst. Same goes for Bikey. Now Fred Nimani...I was there at Bolton and he really was dogger! (same goes for Dane Richards too)

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:52 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Delfouneso was quite terrible.

Must be ore from early 2000s.

Paul McVeigh wasn't very good.

I hoped we'd sign McVeigh at the time. He helped us break the 19 game winless run and stay up.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:53 pm

Sanakho, I think he was called,was awful. I think he tricked Cotterill.

LAM · Post by **LAM** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:02 pm

Duane Courtney. A player completely out of his depth.

I know he got a good hat-trick, but Gifton Noel Williams was terrible.

whentheballmoves · Post by **whentheballmoves** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:09 pm

Cennamo
Sanokho
Guerrero

whentheballmoves · Post by **whentheballmoves** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:09 pm

Oops. Cennamo didn't start a game...did the other two?! LOL

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:10 pm

Claretmatt4 wrote:Delfouneso was quite terrible.

Must be ore from early 2000s.

Paul McVeigh wasn't very good.

Scored a winning goal against hull away! Delfounso not on my list. Possibly a cudda wudda type off player and who knows what any of your worst x1would have achieved under sd. Its all about timing maybe.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:13 pm

Steve Jones. Just for the ginger spice boy hair

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:13 pm

Jordan was a good player.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:14 pm

That pale-faced, skinny winger we got from Manure. Forgot his name.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:30 pm

McQuoid

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:31 pm

Quicknick wrote:That pale-faced, skinny winger we got from Manure. Forgot his name.

Chadwick. He actually did ok at times. Just wasnt as much as we expected as a united loanee.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:33 pm

Cameron Stewart
Zavon Hines

not sure if he ever played - George Porter?

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:58 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Roche and Easton as full backs.

Van Der Melt as the invisible midfielder.

Totally forgot about van der Schaff but they were the two full backs we went straight for when discussing it.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:01 pm

Penny
Roche McGregor Branch Easton
Bermingham Randall Wood Stewart
Bowditch Ricketts

That would get rubbed 10-0 every week in the Championship these days but they've all represented us at that level. Jesus.

As for Jordan - behave!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:14 pm

MDWat wrote:Totally forgot about van der Schaff but they were the two full backs we went straight for when discussing it.

I hope you lads are also discussing some positive things at Jacob's Well.

Any temptation to put Boyd in there?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:15 pm

Its an unpopular opinion of mine, always has been.

But I can't remember a left back that ever made me feel less confident in the last 10 years of watching us. He had at least one massive error in him per game.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:20 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Its an unpopular opinion of mine, always has been.

But I can't remember a left back that ever made me feel less confident in the last 10 years of watching us. He had at least one massive error in him per game.

Since 2000 and not the last 10 years though Moffitt.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:33 pm

Dane Richards never actually started a game, IIRC. Came on as a sub twice and just wandered around for a bit. Got hooked off after initially being subbed on as 'Marvin Bartley', if I'm not mistaken.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:37 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Since 2000 and not the last 10 years though Moffitt.

I was too young to really remember prior to that

Two or 3 years give or take.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:38 pm

Jordan in his first year or so would be close.

He was alright after that.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:52 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:I was too young to really remember prior to that Two or 3 years give or take.

Fair enough.

However Easton came after Jordan and you still picked Jordan.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:36 pm

Didn't Cennamo play in the cup defeat at Cheltenham?

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:39 pm

Jordan had some great 9/10 performances; he was superb against Arsenal at home for instance.
He also had plenty of 4/10's.

We've actually done alright since promotion in 2000 in terms of crap players - if you discount loan players then you'd be hard pressed to find properly crap. We've had a truck load of non entities, and plenty of crap periods (Steve Cotterill, mainly) but the year 1999 onwards has been nothing but an upward curve.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:55 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Jordan had some great 9/10 performances; he was superb against Arsenal at home for instance.
He also had plenty of 4/10's.

We've actually done alright since promotion in 2000 in terms of crap players - if you discount loan players then you'd be hard pressed to find properly crap. We've had a truck load of non entities, and plenty of crap periods (Steve Cotterill, mainly) but the year 1999 onwards has been nothing but an upward curve.

It may have been a crap period (debatable on how crap) under Cotterill but he brought some very decent players to Burnley.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:57 pm

Since the year 2000, Steve Cotterill's tenure as manager is a notable nadir.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:10 pm

Its an old debate that will never be settled. But Cotterill was very good for us and without him we wouldnt be where we are now.

Played his own part in our recent success. Every bit as important in his own way as any manager we have had since Casper.

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:10 pm

Did George Weah's cousin ever play for us?

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:11 pm

Yes, you're quite right, cricketfields. Cotterill should never be slagged.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:19 am

Quicknick wrote:Jordan was a good player.

Jordan must have been one of if the worst, if not the worst ever full back to play in the Premier League. Jordan was not even up to League 1 standard.

Never forget his performance at West Ham. He was so slow in mind and body, he kept playing West Ham on side

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:20 am

Jordan looked like Maldini when compared to Easton

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:25 am

claretdom wrote:Jordan looked like Maldini when compared to Easton

Forgot all about him. Another bad un to throw into the mix

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:30 am

If anyone suggests Jordan was worse than Easton they should find something else to do on Saturdays.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:58 am

Easton was a classic case of the wrong mentality allied to a peculiar physique, he just didn't look a footballer, but he has had a decent career in Scotland with ST Johnstone which suggests he wasn't quite as bad as some would suggest.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:59 am

ablueclaret wrote:Easton was a classic case of the wrong mentality allied to a peculiar physique, he just didn't look a footballer, but he has had a decent career in Scotland with ST Johnstone which suggests he wasn't quite as bad as some would suggest.

Scotland is also the market you think we should be signing our 1st team players from, maybe you should think about that when typing your nonsense on players. He was gash then and he gash now.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:03 am

Never mentioned first team players but yes it is a market we should pay attention too, your Scottish bias so great you think there are no good players in Scotland?

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:08 am

If we were in league 1 it may be worthwhile. Do I have a Welsh bias for thinking we shouldn't be looking there or an Irish one too ?

It is an awful standard, look at some of the top performers in the league Stokes, Waghorn, Griffiths, Brown etc dross some who would and have struggled in the championship. Even Brendan Rodgers is winning a league there

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:25 am

Stephen Jordan?

The same player who was never given the luxury of having the midfield track back and cover his side of the pitch?

If he had played with George Boyd in front of him he wouldn't have atrracted the attention of the 'boo boys'.