Keane on Bamford....Red?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:52 pm

.....Or a slip and right decision?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:55 pm

Right decision for me , although I'm slightly biased

claretabroad · Post by **claretabroad** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:55 pm

Very lucky not to have got a red card for that but I'm not complaining.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:55 pm

Went from 2 metres from him. Never seen legs buckle like that since I last saw Chris Eagles play

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:55 pm

Talk sport commentators initially thought off, then after replay doubts crept in as Keane slipped.

If we've got away with one, all well and good.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:56 pm

Must admit, had it been up the other end I'd have been screaming red.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:57 pm

Strictly speaking, it should have been a red, although he was unfortunate with the slip.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:59 pm

We play by rules. ( meant too )
If rules are followed, it's a red.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:01 pm

Sky thought yellow was right because of Keane slipping.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:02 pm

Don't think it really matters that he slipped - it should have been a red.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:02 pm

Shouldn't matter whether it's deliberate or not should it? Red card for me. Having said that I don't think it would have altered the result. Boro are whack.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:03 pm

Definite red. Hilarious. Hopefully bamford has his violin to console himself.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:06 pm

I bet Bamford is bawling his eyes out right now

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:06 pm

Keane did Bamford a favour. He would have fluffed it and cried himself to sleep.

Melbourneclaret · Post by **Melbourneclaret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:08 pm

Booking for Bamford. Clear dive

boiledclaret · Post by **boiledclaret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:10 pm

Had he gone it would have been Tarka time at Goodison. ABC's posts would have been primed and ready.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:12 pm

Think the rule is purposeful denial of a goalscoring opportunity - Keane slipped so wasn't on purpose
If it was at the other end I would have been screaming for a red card though !

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:12 pm

Never a red card.
Michael slipped on grass sodden with Bamford's tears.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:14 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Think the rule is purposeful denial of a goalscoring opportunity - Keane slipped so wasn't on purpose
If it was at the other end I would have been screaming for a red card though !

http://www.football-italia.net/80917/fi ... -card-rule" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You're right. See link, yellow card was correct decision.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:14 pm

The rules have changed this season haven't they? There has to be no attempt to play the ball, or is that just for could in the box that lead to penalties?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:30 pm

Was yellow. The ref said so

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:35 pm

Read the Sunday papers you will see it's a yellow despite the home crowds yelling. A brave decision by the ref.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:41 pm

bobinho wrote:Talk sport commentators initially thought off, then after replay doubts crept in as Keane slipped.

If we've got away with one, all well and good.

I'd of thought row z got away with one.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:45 pm

He should have walked, great first touch from Bamford created the opportunity, slip or no slip, foul. Off.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:05 pm

http://sport.bt.com/sport-hurts/poll-cl ... 4171684646" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Graham Poll says yellow

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:12 pm

Diesel wrote:He should have walked, great first touch from Bamford created the opportunity, slip or no slip, foul. Off.

You're probably being obtuse, but if it's not deliberate it's not a red card.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:02 pm

couldn't see clearly from our end, although if he slipped it would be very harsh to red card him. He had another poor game all round today, by his standards. He's not been the same since he came back from England. Here's hoping he sorts it out soon.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:You're probably being obtuse, but if it's not deliberate it's not a red card.

And I'll raise you: Keane Was the last man (between the attacker and goalkeeper)

Bamfords instant control, was inductive to Keane slipping.

FFS it was a blatant foul on someone who was clean through, Red card all day long.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:16 pm

The right decision. Keane slipped and there was no intention of even making a challenge at that point.

Good job we had a too referee today, a lesser one would have got it wrong.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:27 pm

If Keane hadn't slipped would have probably tackled Bamford as easily as he did in the area in almost similar circumstances a few minutes later

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:39 pm

If Bamford was playing up front and had instant control we should sign him.

strayclaret · Post by **strayclaret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:06 pm

Didn't see the slip, so my immediate reaction was a red. Looks now the ref got it right, but if an we're a Boro fan I be a bit issed off.
Just seen it, definite slip.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:08 pm

Slip from Keane. Bamford not clear at the point of contact. Yellow fair.

Redbeard · Post by **Redbeard** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:11 pm

Chester Perry wrote:Keane would have probably tackled Bamford as easily as he did in the area in almost similar circumstances a few minutes later

That second tackle was by Stephen Ward, Chester.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:27 pm

Red without doubt .

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:41 pm

Yellow without doubt.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:10 pm

If it's not deliberate it's not a red card offence. It's in the rules. It was a slip and unintentional foul, hence yellow card.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:14 pm

Flip it to Gray v Gibson and i'm pretty sure the majority of people on here would see it very differently

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:17 pm

Bamford certainly got on his bike in the five or ten minutes that he was on. Maybe trying to prove a point. He looked a lot better than he did coming on for five or ten minutes for Burnley, that's for sure.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:23 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Flip it to Gray v Gibson and i'm pretty sure the majority of people on here would see it very differently

JFW man. It doesn't matter how people would see it. The rules state that if a player commits an accidental foul that deny a goalscoring chance they will be cautioned. You don't always have to be the contrarian.

ClaretRock · Post by **ClaretRock** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:26 pm

Think the ref did really well to spot the slip and only give a yellow. My initial reaction was red but looking at replays the ref was spot on.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:27 pm

The rules for England internationals are different, and Keane gets the decisions that others wouldn't, in preparation for next season when he's made his £30m move to Chelsea.

I can cope with a few more games of unbiased leniency to the best English centre-half England has. ☺

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:28 pm

True but I like to bring a bit of balance and context to the board cos next week it might happen to Gray and most on here wont care it was accidental theyll just be frothing at the mouth hammering the ref for costing us the match

We have a go at refs for consistency but the day both sets of fans and managers have a consistent view then i'll hammer the ref

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:33 pm

Only seen it once, live at the ground so a distance away, but red card all day long on that viewing. (Then yellow for Bamford for crying!)

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:34 pm

I've just spoken to Michael Keane at a sportsmans dinner, he said he pretended to slip to avoid a red card.

He said that if he was the ref. he would have sent himself off.

I've won then..

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:10 pm

Rileybobs wrote:JFW man. It doesn't matter how people would see it. The rules state that if a player commits an accidental foul that deny a goalscoring chance they will be cautioned. You don't always have to be the contrarian.

Yes he does, it's in his username...

Vintage Claret · Post by **Vintage Claret** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:00 pm

Not a red for me.
Bamford didn't have the ball under full control so wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:13 pm

Didn't get a red, whether or not he should have or shouldn't have, didn't happen so upwards and onwards.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:19 pm

Rules state - that if its a clear goal scoring opportunity, then its a red card... though it was Patrick Bamford through on goal, so a yellow is fair punishment.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:48 am

Zom Zom wrote:The rules for England internationals are different, and Keane gets the decisions that others wouldn't, in preparation for next season when he's made his £30m move to Chelsea.

I can cope with a few more games of unbiased leniency to the best English centre-half England has. ☺

£33m to manu.