Zlatan out

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:57 pm

For sure on sunday

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:58 pm

And maybe Rojo.

bfc1984 · Post by **bfc1984** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:03 pm

Bit crap was looking forward to seeing him,it's what we all want to see big players at the turf

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:26 pm

Such a shame.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:36 pm

Agree shame. I would like to see us win against the best players. That said three points is more important.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:38 pm

Bollix to Zlatan.

I want to see us win. If he's out, that gives us a better chance of that.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:38 pm

not as gutted as Zlatan will be to miss out on playing on the Turf

Claretpants · Post by **Claretpants** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:48 pm

Shame bet Joey was looking forward to playing big nose

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:50 pm

bfc1984 wrote:Bit crap was looking forward to seeing him,it's what we all want to see big players at the turf

Shaw and Rooney look pretty "big" to me - your wishes may be granted after all !

Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:14 pm

bfc1984 wrote:Bit crap was looking forward to seeing him,it's what we all want to see big players at the turf

I saw Steve Foster at the Turf once. Now he was big!

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:08 am

bfc1984 wrote:Bit crap was looking forward to seeing him,it's what we all want to see big players at the turf

Not all of us.
Strange comment, but if 84 is your year of birth it might explain it.

Possibly splits opinion on the matter, if you

1. Think he is a great player, then why would you want a great player playing against us which decreases our chances of winning?

2. Don't care/meh about him, so are not bothered if he is injured or not.

( Just for the record, I think Crouch is slightly bigger, so already seen the biggest player in the league play ont Turf )

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:10 am

Mixed feelings on this as like others have said I wanted to see him play but certainly improves our chances without him.

ThinLizzy · Post by **ThinLizzy** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:21 am

I don't know who goes on a game at Turf Moor to watch opposition players. I go on to watch us. Couldn't care less who rocks up as long as we perform. Though I'd rather players who could affect the result in a negative way for us are unavailable.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:51 am

The way he played last night, I'd rather have faced him. Pretty sure all his shots were closer to the corner flags than the goals.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:52 am

Everyone goes to see Burnley win and I certainly feel cheesed off when we don't do well.

As a football fan what is wrong with appreciating great players.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:54 am

Seeing how he played last night I too am sorry he won't be miscontrolling through balls and scuffing shots on Sunday.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:20 am

Two injuries and extra time shouldn't do our chances any harm. Not forgetting that the rest of the players have only two recovery days before playing us.

We're averaging nearly 5000 more fans this season than last so you have to think that a large number of those are there to see us play against the big boys and tick off the star names, that's what being in this league is all about, playing against the best, the team going toe to toe with some of the best players in the world and trying to find a way to win.

CarlesTheClaretPuyol · Post by **CarlesTheClaretPuyol** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:20 am

I for one am devastated. I've followed his career for roughly 15 years and the chance to see him not only in the flesh, but at the Turf was one of the things I was most looking forward to this season.

Mercurial brilliance and unparalleled arrogance, backed up by the fact he's won pretty much everything at some of the biggest clubs in the world, and carried his country way above their level in internationals. Truly a once in a generation character and player.

As for Sunday, we'll do 'em!

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:04 am

Yes he's one of those players that we all want to see grace the Turf, although I still think the current form of Rashford and Lingard are more of a problem.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:15 am

At least there's more chance of Barton staying in the pitch now

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:17 am

Torn, really looking forward to seeing him play but on the other hand, the more injuries United have, the better for us

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:25 am

I'm not bothered about seeing him either.

But what does bother me is how well United did against Chelsea without him and with young fast runners.
Zlatan at United reminds me of Charlie Austin for us. Everything went through him and he was great, but as soon as he went, more players blossomed and we became a promotion team.

I suppose Zlatan's a world class talent though so he could have scored a couple...

Man of Kent · Post by **Man of Kent** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:29 am

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:I saw Steve Foster at the Turf once. Now he was big!

I saw Neil Ruddock play us once at Palace - he was massive. And he continued to grow after retirement - I saw him some time ago in my local Waitrose. He'd definitely been at the pies again.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:34 am

I also think all the hard work they put into beating Anderlecht last night over 120 minutes will help us.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:48 am

Walt wrote:
As a football fan what is wrong with appreciating great players.

Absolutely nothing, when they are not against your team.

Burnley fan first, then football fan.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:49 am

This Season has never been about seeing the Great Players of the Big Teams for me(the last two times we were up here weren't either), it's been about seeing Burnley FC survive in the Top Division for more than a season.
Anything that aids that desire is great for me.
I'm glad the ugly bugger ain't playing.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:00 am

ThinLizzy wrote:I don't know who goes on a game at Turf Moor to watch opposition players.

I'm not sure you're right. If this is the case then why do we get much higher attendances in the PL?. I'm sure it's because supporters are more enthusiastic about watching the world's top players than the rather less glamorous names in the lower divisions.
Having said that though, it does help us if top players are out through injury or suspension. It's a bit of a conundrum.
For the record, (on this occasion) I think Rashford and Lingard are a far more serious threat to us than Zlatan because of their flair and pace.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:09 am

Nothing at all wrong with wanting to see him play. People who saying they dont understand are looking at it too black and white or being purposely obtuse.

I want us to win. I want us to hammer them. But I want us to do it against the best players.

I want to see Ben Mee marshalling one of the greatest players ever.

I want to see Michael Keane doninate his fellow young England international.

I want the euophoria of beating a liverpool side littered with internationals again. Or holding a formidable chelsea side.

Just a shame Schweinsteiger wont be playing either for me.

Cant stand Man U. But having watched Burnley from the bottom of division four, its far more exciting to watch us compete with top clubs and in zlatan one of the greatest players of all time than it is Maidstone and Rochdale.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:11 am

Claretpants wrote:Shame bet Joey was looking forward to playing big nose

Alright, you say that ONCE more, and I'll punch you in the face!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:14 am

Ben Mee will be a relieved man.

Relieved that he now won't have to wear big shorts with massive pockets in them.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:15 am

its a shame he won't be playing as united are potentially more dangerous to us without him.

he's one of the all-time greats but he slows their play down drastically and his omission from the team was key to them beating chelsea.

Bfc · Post by **Bfc** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:38 am

If we win/draw the Utd game, the headlines still won't be about us. It will be because of the injuries they suffered and the effects extra time took out the team, playing so soon after the Anderlecht game.

ThinLizzy · Post by **ThinLizzy** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:40 am

nil_desperandum wrote:I'm not sure you're right. If this is the case then why do we get much higher attendances in the PL?. I'm sure it's because supporters are more enthusiastic about watching the world's top players than the rather less glamorous names in the lower divisions.
Having said that though, it does help us if top players are out through injury or suspension. It's a bit of a conundrum.
For the record, (on this occasion) I think Rashford and Lingard are a far more serious threat to us than Zlatan because of their flair and pace.

I'd agree with Rashford being a threat. Ibrahimovic has that ability to create something from nothing.
I guess my point was. Of course attendances are bigger because the prize is much bigger, this season remaining in the Premier League. I've never personally gone on a game wanting to see an opposition player or some 'star', but then I don't do 'celebrity'.
I guess, there was that buzz of a cup game and the possibility of beating a higher division team, a scalp if you like back in the day. But I just have attended at all levels, even some bloody pointless games in the scheme of things, just to watch us. I've never specifically gone on a game because 'such and such' was playing. I do admit to applauding some masterclasses from opposition players mind you.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:55 am

i'd wager everyone on here goes on burnley games first and foremost to watch burnley. its a bonus that were also seeing some of the best players in the world and there's no doubt it adds to the gate somewhat.

i'm don't think its about 'celebrity', i just like watching really good footballers. and its even better when we beat them.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:57 am

Can see where Quoon's coming from - United become a more fluid threat at times without Zlatan, although weirdly we've tended to struggle more with physical strikers like Llorente, Rondon and Janssen this season than pacey attackers, and we've tended to look most vulnerable when defending against teams who have a focal point to cross the ball into (I'm sure this was one reason Spurs played Trippier at Burnley with Janssen). I'd not be surprised to see Fellaini deployed off Rashford on Sunday for this reason.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:10 am

Brother and I said exact same thing last night Spice. Fellaini will almost certainly play off Rashford and / or Martial.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:11 am

CarlesTheClaretPuyol wrote:I for one am devastated. I've followed his career for roughly 15 years and the chance to see him not only in the flesh, but at the Turf was one of the things I was most looking forward to this season.

Mercurial brilliance and unparalleled arrogance, backed up by the fact he's won pretty much everything at some of the biggest clubs in the world, and carried his country way above their level in internationals. Truly a once in a generation character and player.

As for Sunday, we'll do 'em!

Me to.the two players I was most looking forward to seeing this season play at the Turf where Silva & Zlatan,devastated I'm not going to see either.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:14 am

claretspice wrote:Can see where Quoon's coming from - United become a more fluid threat at times without Zlatan, although weirdly we've tended to struggle more with physical strikers like Llorente, Rondon and Janssen this season than pacey attackers, and we've tended to look most vulnerable when defending against teams who have a focal point to cross the ball into (I'm sure this was one reason Spurs played Trippier at Burnley with Janssen). I'd not be surprised to see Fellaini deployed off Rashford on Sunday for this reason.

yep, we're good at sitting deep and nullifying pace - that's how we beat liverpool. would definitely go along with expecting fellaini to be pushed forward.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:20 am

Apart from the fact we sit fairly deep, I think it also helps us that both our centre backs have experience of playing at full back, and therefore (assisted by Keane's pace) are pretty good in 1 v 1 situations.

timscoot · Post by **timscoot** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:27 am

Was looking forward to seeing Barnes against Rojo .

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:31 am

Rashford looked electric last night, sitting deep will be essential again on Sunday.

Shame for Zlatan but I saw him in the away game, his touch was amazing. Glad he's out.

CarlesTheClaretPuyol · Post by **CarlesTheClaretPuyol** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:08 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:yep, we're good at sitting deep and nullifying pace - that's how we beat liverpool. would definitely go along with expecting fellaini to be pushed forward.

I'm not sure that's strictly true. Liverpool had very little genuine pace that day as Mane was injured. Yes we sat deep and nullified them, but we nullified their passing and off the ball movement and reduced them to speculative long rangers.

Pace has been our Achilles heel all season.

Leyland Claret · Post by **Leyland Claret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:22 pm

It's a double edged sword for me. I think he's a top quality player and it's 1 less top quality player for us to face and, for me, improves our chances of getting a result.......but I targeted this game pre season for my son to be the mascot as he is a big fan of Ibra and for that I am genuinely devastated for my lad to miss out on meeting one of his idols because of what happened in the final second of the 90 minutes last night.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:23 pm

CarlesTheClaretPuyol wrote:I'm not sure that's strictly true. Liverpool had very little genuine pace that day as Mane was injured. Yes we sat deep and nullified them, but we nullified their passing and off the ball movement and reduced them to speculative long rangers.

Pace has been our Achilles heel all season.

good point about liverpool, they weren't a great example tbf. i think we've struggled more with crosses than pace but i take the point.

i think our lack of pace going forwards has been more of an achilles heel!

CarlesTheClaretPuyol · Post by **CarlesTheClaretPuyol** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:24 pm

Leyland Claret wrote:It's a double edged sword for me. I think he's a top quality player and it's 1 less top quality player for us to face and, for me, improves our chances of getting a result.......but I targeted this game pre season for my son to be the mascot as he is a big fan of Ibra and for that I am genuinely devastated for my lad to miss out on meeting one of his idols because of what happened in the final second of the 90 minutes last night.

I'm 32 and I know exactly how he feels right now...

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:49 pm

CarlesTheClaretPuyol wrote:I'm 32 and I know exactly how he feels right now...

Crickey, they let just about anyone be a mascot these days!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:25 pm

reports about now that Zlatan is out for the rest of the season

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:51 pm

Well if that sh!te from Disney perform like they did last night, I would be very disappointed if we don't win. All these saying that they are more interested in who turns up than the result are more than likely Premier league glory hunters, who only watch the clarets in the premier league. They can do one for me and get back to Disney or Anfleld from where they cometh

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:00 pm

Shame hes out for the rest of the year pretty much.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:22 pm

I saw him play in the away match (cos I'm a proper fan!

) So I'm quite happy he ain't going to grace The Turf.