Dwight Yorke

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:37 am

Advocating that all black players come out on strike because of the lack of
opportunities afforded for black managers.

Not this again, for crying out loud.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39661668" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:45 am

Funkydrummer wrote:Advocating that all black players come out on strike because of the lack of
opportunities afforded for black managers.

Not this again, for crying out loud.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39661668" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I read that this morning and thought exactly the same. I say read, I skimmed the article and I don't think it mentioned as to whether he'd completed the necessary FIFA / FA licences?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:47 am

Wasn't it him who applied for the Villa job, by txt, despite having NO qualifications for it??

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:49 am

ClaretEngineer wrote:I read that this morning and thought exactly the same. I say read, I skimmed the article and I don't think it mentioned as to whether he'd completed the necessary FIFA / FA licences?

I thought exactly the same thing - perhaps he's not got any qualifications.

Telling quote from the article too :-

"Yorke, 45, said he knew of black former players who would not do coaching badges as they felt they had little chance of getting a coaching role."

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:55 am

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jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:55 am

Don't forget the next couple of lines Funkydrummer!

Yorke, 45, said he knew of black former players who would not do coaching badges as they felt they had little chance of getting a coaching role.

"If it's not because of the colour of our skin then tell me what it is?" the former Trinidad and Tobago player said.

"I'm speaking out about it. Be fair. At least give us an interview."

I'm no rocket scientist but I suspect these former black players who've been denied interviews have probably been denied them because they've done no coaching badges?! I'd get his argument if he said "I've done all my coaching badges but can't get an interview". That would be clear discrimination, but this is a desperate attempt to bring this topic back into the limelight. I'm not saying he's a liar but guys like Dwight Yorke, Sol Campbell and Jason Roberts need to bring real life examples to the table if they're going to make anyone take them seriously!!

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:57 am

Funkydrummer wrote:I thought exactly the same thing - perhaps he's not got any qualifications.

Telling quote from the article too :-

"Yorke, 45, said he knew of black former players who would not do coaching badges as they felt they had little chance of getting a coaching role."

Its these sorts of unfounded comments that really do not help their cause. He could of course be recounting conversations with ex-players from 20 years ago. Comments less relevant today, as despite what he thinks society has advanced in the last 20 years.

It would be akin to a 17 year old me texting in an application to Rolls Royce for a senior design role...!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:57 am

Oh and of course black managers never get a chance do they...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30640697" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and we all know how that worked out...

Dwight Yorke really does need to wind his neck in on this, fed up of hearing about it.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:00 am

Yorke needs to look at someone like Henry, who's just quietly gone about getting his qualifications and got himself a job with Belgium.
No fuss, or histrionics, he just did it.

Yorke meanwhile is bleating again, but there's never been any mention of him getting his badges, which are more important now then they were in the past, even in lower leagues.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:03 am

Black people like him cause trouble. What would happen if a retired white player called for all white players to strike due to the disproportionate number of white players in the Premier league compared to the UK population ?.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:08 am

He applied for a job. He didn't get it because he had no experience. I know lets play the race card. The guy is a complete plank.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:12 am

People don't avoid signing players because they are black. If they are good enough they are good enough whatever their origins. It didn't stop Paul Pogba becoming the most expensive player.The same applies to managers. You could make a case for young English managers not being given opportunities because of the demand for instant success.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:14 am

It's a clear case of racism; it's only because they are black they are being made to do coaching badges before getting a coaching job. Just think, he could be a future England manager so it's a pity he's so stupid.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:20 am

Rick_Muller wrote:

That looks nothing like Dwight Yorke

ThinLizzy · Post by **ThinLizzy** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:29 am

I applied for the job of Nuclear Physicist with the MOD. I have no qualifications but I am sure I didn't get it because of my colour. I did get a GCSE in Physics at school.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:48 am

Are black footballers over represented in the game?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:54 am

How about looking after and supporting your son first you whopper.

He's possiblythe lowest of the low, yet thinks his opinion matters on a none issue.

ThinLizzy · Post by **ThinLizzy** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:02 am

MACCA wrote:How about looking after and supporting your son first you whopper.

He's possiblythe lowest of the low, yet thinks his opinion matters on a none issue.

I need to correct myself with the missus. I said that Harvey was Ashley Cole's son. I get all confused. These footballers sleep around so much.

Yes, doesn't Yorke refuse to accept Harvey as his son? Or something along those lines.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:22 am

ThinLizzy wrote:I need to correct myself with the missus. I said that Harvey was Ashley Cole's son. I get all confused. These footballers sleep around so much.
Yes, doesn't Yorke refuse to accept Harvey as his son? Or something along those lines.

That's correct he foesn't accept him, or have anything to do with him.

Not 100% sure if accurate as it's only what his mum said. But apparently it was because he was born disabled and he couldn't/didn't want to bring him up.
( like I said not sure how true that is )

But still, he's still a tw@ for shirking his responsibility! IMO of course.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:25 am

ThinLizzy wrote:I need to correct myself with the missus. I said that Harvey was Ashley Cole's son. I get all confused. These footballers sleep around so much.
Yes, doesn't Yorke refuse to accept Harvey as his son? Or something along those lines.

Her you go...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2 ... ge-online/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:27 am

I find it sad that we're debating this idiot on the day we lost an honourable guy who did things the right way...

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:27 am

Hmmm if he'd of pulled out of Jordan as regular as he did tackles he might have a few more quid about him.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:27 am

That just reminds everyone of how trashy she used to look.

lakesclaret · Post by **lakesclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:35 am

Can only agree with the above that he comes over as a total tool with a chip on his shoulder and a total non case to argue . This coming from a prize bellend who never paid a penny to the disabled kid he had with the prostitute Jordan

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:37 am

This pops up quite a bit, a popular topic for casual racists and righteous preachy types alike.

Last time round, I learned that the number of black coaches and managers involved in football almost exactly mirrors the percentage of black people in the UK today.

The number isn't equivalent to the number of black players in the game, or even close, but it's an entirely different skill set, so I don't see a reason why it has to be. I don't know how many black tea ladies there are at football clubs, or coach drivers. Neither does Dwight, but he's not after those football related jobs so he gives about as much of a s**t as anyone else.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:39 am

What was the United song for him.....

Dwight, Dwight wherever you may be,
You are the king of pornography

A shining example to young black footballers everywhere.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:56 pm

Is this the prick who doesnt see his kid?

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:04 pm

Maybe the real reason he doesn't get interviews (aside from the lack of qualifications) is that people have heard his attempts at punditry and come to the natural conclusion that he lacks the eloquence or the tactical nous to be a remotely effective manager.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:08 pm

How ironic Ugo Ehiogu has passed away today. An ex-player who completed his coaching badges and got the job as U-23 coach at Spurs. Imagine that, a black man completed the required courses to get a job and got it. I thought Dwight said this sort of thing didn't happen? I hate using it as an example because his passing is extremely sad, but it does undermine Dwight Yorke's comments a little does it not?!

Browntuba · Post by **Browntuba** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:15 pm

This is the same guy who thinks there's a football club called Burnsley, perhaps he should apply to be their manager.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm

jlup1980 wrote:How ironic Ugo Ehiogu has passed away today. An ex-player who completed his coaching badges and got the job as U-23 coach at Spurs. Imagine that, a black man completed the required courses to get a job and got it. I thought Dwight said this sort of thing didn't happen? I hate using it as an example because his passing is extremely sad, but it does undermine Dwight Yorke's comments a little does it not?!

Sadly yes it does.

I personally wasn't even aware Ehiogu was a coach until today, probably because he just got on with it and didn't feel the need to make a fuss.
Clearly shows the difference between the 2 of them.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:48 pm

If the allegations about not seeing his son are true he is a disgrace. Maybe interviewers are looking for men who are made of sterner stuff who players will respect.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:54 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Is this the prick who doesnt see his kid?

Apparently his prick saw his kid once, in passing.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:37 pm

I dont kno how he gets these bits of jobs

Complete waste of oxygen

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:53 pm

Disgraceful comments

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:59 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:Disgraceful comments

Which one(s) in particular ? He's set himself up, he deserves to be shot down.

He's the disgrace.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:03 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:Which one(s) in particular ? He's set himself up, he deserves to be shot down.

He's the disgrace.

I get sick of all his black manger crap. If youre any good you will get a job, football doesn't owe you a living.

Ince will be on next backing him up, asking why he didn't get a top 4 job.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:05 pm

In all fairness Ince did an excellent job at Rovers.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:06 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:I get sick of all his black manger crap. If youre any good you will get a job, football doesn't owe you a living.

Ince will be on next backing him up, asking why he didn't get a top 4 job.

I'll go along with those sentiments - they will be campaigning for a driving licence
for Stevie Wonder next.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:32 am

Sadly, he discredits too many black people. There will be some and it might be a small number, who will be fine at the job, eg the Chris's, Houghton and Powell, who don't whinge about it, whereas the serial failures like Ince and Barnes goon and on about it.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:33 pm

he's back again, this time he's wants the Sunderland job.

https://talksport.com/football/exclusiv ... cted-chief" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:09 pm

I wonder if there are any stats out there with regards to the number of black players who actually do take the coaching badges compared to that of white players. This would surely then be a better judge of whether there is any disparity with the number of black managers in the game?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:14 pm

My memory is a little hazy, but weren't there some white English managers/head coaches who had to complete their coaching badges to allow them to do their job in the PL a number of years ago?

I'm thinking Southgate when he was at Boro, but I could be wrong.

If that's the case, it's not like former players haven't been aware of that.

Yorke could well be right, but if they aren't bothering with the qualifications why does he think anyone deserves an interview, whether they're black or white?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:16 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:he's back again, this time he's wants the Sunderland job.

https://talksport.com/football/exclusiv ... cted-chief" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I hope he gets it and relegates them.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:01 pm

Hipper wrote:Are black footballers over represented in the game?

I'd say so yes.

StuffyClaret · Post by **StuffyClaret** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:15 pm

I'm surprised that nobody has started a campaign over the shortage of balding ginger bearded managers there are out there!

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:21 pm

Just for confirmation, Dwight Yorke has passed all relevant coaching badges.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:29 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39661668" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I found this 2014 Football Focus clip in my search for Dion Dublin's take on this issue because I thought he was the guy who was talking sense when DY first started spouting off.
I'm sure there was a former black player who was basically telling DY to 'shut up and get on with it'
May have been Ehiogu.

Edit:

same as the OP

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:50 pm

Anyone going to mention the disproportionate amount of English managers to English teams in the Prem at some stage? Whether white or black or green?

Got to be racism.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:51 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Just for confirmation, Dwight Yorke has passed all relevant coaching badges.

Is that a recent thing?