Barton's FA Hearing

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:25 pm

Just seen a reporter at the Burnley press conference say that Barton is having his FA hearing today

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:31 pm

That came out of the blue.

Any links to follow?

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:33 pm

No, just saw Tyrone Marshall from the Lancashire Telegraph report it on twitter

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:34 pm

C0cksocks! I thought we'd got away with it till the end of the season

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:37 pm

Looks like we my be seeing a little more of Westwood or Defour than we had anticipated. Just please God don't let it be Arfield in the middle!

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:46 pm

Goobs wrote:Looks like we my be seeing a little more of Westwood or Defour than we had anticipated. Just please God don't let it be Arfield in the middle!

I wonder who will be the first to say the T word

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:49 pm

TOSSERS

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:49 pm

Goobs wrote:Looks like we my be seeing a little more of Westwood or Defour than we had anticipated. Just please God don't let it be Arfield in the middle!

He's injured so we'd have to be desperate

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:50 pm

MarkGreen wrote:I wonder who will be the first to say the T word

Sky Sports news story ahead of Sunday:

Burnley have run 462km more than the Red Devils this term - the same distance as Burnley to London, albeit having played two more games. Burnley's James Tarkowski tops the two teams with 15.16km per game.....

Really?

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:57 pm

Would be a bit harsh on us to ban him before Sunday's fixture if we've been preparing with him all week.

Archie Claret · Post by **Archie Claret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:58 pm

#9 Selby..would that be up and down the touchline?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:59 pm

Selby Claret wrote:Sky Sports news story ahead of Sunday:

Burnley have run 462km more than the Red Devils this term - the same distance as Burnley to London, albeit having played two more games. Burnley's James Tarkowski tops the two teams with 15.16km per game.....

Really?

Are they counting him warming up along the touchline whilst he's spent his 2days 1hr & 32mins in the bench?

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:03 pm

Selby Claret wrote:Sky Sports news story ahead of Sunday:

Burnley have run 462km more than the Red Devils this term - the same distance as Burnley to London, albeit having played two more games. Burnley's James Tarkowski tops the two teams with 15.16km per game.....

Really?

I think they've just added up all his running stats from his 5, 10, 15 minute appearances here and there and it averages out at 15.16km per 90 minutes.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:08 pm

He will be appealing surely. Hopefully we will be safe before he is actually banned.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:28 pm

Hidden in a piece by the Daily Mail where Dyche says Keane is not confirmed as leaving

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MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:29 pm

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... =2&t=15677

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:58 pm

Goobs wrote:Just please God don't let it be Arfield in the middle!

Injured

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:08 pm

summitclaret wrote:He will be appealing surely. Hopefully we will be safe before he is actually banned.

I didn't think he could appeal because he's already accepted the charge.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:22 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:I didn't think he could appeal because he's already accepted the charge.

He may be able to appeal the sanction if he considers it to be unduly harsh.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:25 pm

Selby Claret wrote:Sky Sports news story ahead of Sunday:

Burnley have run 462km more than the Red Devils this term - the same distance as Burnley to London, albeit having played two more games. Burnley's James Tarkowski tops the two teams with 15.16km per game.....

Really?

Well, he can play in every position on the pitch, so perhaps he was doing them all at the same time.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:40 pm

Well outside the framework is Tarka, far too fit for this team of plodders.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:47 pm

We have to fair to United so we won't play Tarks in midfield.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:49 pm

summitclaret wrote:He will be appealing surely. Hopefully we will be safe before he is actually banned.

We're safe now.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:52 pm

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jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:04 pm

Nothing on the FA web site where latest suspensions are listed

Hopefully today was Poets Day and they never got round to making any decisions before they packed up for the weekend

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:33 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Well outside the framework is Tarka, far too fit for this team of plodders.

Am i in the minority of one in loving ablueclaret?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:48 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:I didn't think he could appeal because he's already accepted the charge.

Accepting a charge is usually the first step in trying to secure a light sentence, so by accepting the charges, (and co-operating with the authorities), he will have an even stronger case for launching an appeal if it is considered that the sentence is disproportionate or unduly harsh.
Any punishment handed down to him that affects his ability to pursue his trade will be open to appeal at various levels. (That doesn't mean he will win any appeal, but a good legal team could certainly drag it out).

bfcmartin · Post by **bfcmartin** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:16 pm

Adjourned according to Sky hes available for Sunday

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:41 pm

just finished reading the no nonesense book by Mr J Barton, very interesting in his thought process of how he responds/ blows up in life be it on the field or life, get the feeling on the field he is in control of him self and others around him. Off the field bit more difficult to control his and others emotions / deeds especially with drink involved. Big in sight into various managers especially some chap called Sean.

So when I see the hearing has been adjourned feel that he has questioned or got some more information re what happens in football

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:47 pm

I wish he'd just get banned, have it over with. He's been crap for a few games a suspension would have been a blessing in disguise.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:47 pm

"So when I see the hearing has been adjourned feel that he has questioned or got some more information re what happens in football"

What???

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:55 pm

KRBFC wrote:He's been crap for a few games a suspension would have been a blessing in disguise.

I thought he was outstanding last week at Everton

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I thought he was outstanding last week at Everton

Absolutely.

BigF · Post by **BigF** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:18 pm

I am sure I. just read on Sky Sports news that the charges against Joey had been dropped.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:24 pm

BigF wrote:I am sure I. just read on Sky Sports news that the charges against Joey had been dropped.

You have, that's what SSN have reported, but I don't think that's the case - he's already admitted them prior to the personal hearing so I assume it is adjourned as the press are reporting.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:30 pm

I still think and have had it suggested to me that if Barton is banned it will be like a house of cards and a lot of footballers both high profile and run of the mill players will also have to be bannned. I think IN has by pleading guilty called the FA.'a bluff.

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:30 pm

Just seen the same headline on SSN.

That will be some result for Barton and his legal team if accurate.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:37 pm

'...That will be some result for Barton and his legal team if accurate...'

one he would've never bet on!

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:38 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I thought he was outstanding last week at Everton

You cant question his work ethic and will to win but I thought his use of the ball hasn't quite been the same. I'm sure it was Barton who sloppily gave the ball away for the 2nd at Everton, I could be wrong. Possibly the hearing has affected him or maybe I'm giving him a hard run either way, I wish it would get cleared up asap and if that means he gets banned, so be it.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:05 pm

Think Ben Mee gave the ball away for Everton's second goal.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:29 pm

Survival is just about guaranteed so lets get him banned and get (5m) Westwood in and have a look towards next season.

Barton was brilliant in his first two games back with us and with his goal plus the injury to Marney and suspension to Hendrick his resigning has without doubt been a huge success

The trouble now is Dyche sticks to the safe option with the players he trusts to play the percentages and even though Barton has looked well off the pace and awful for some time ultimately he follows instructions to the letter so keeps his place

We have spent 5m on Westwood and if for that money Dyche cannot find an improvement on Barton then we are never gonna progress beyond a bunch of cloggers desperately trying to survive

I hope I am proved wrong but I think either Dyche cannot spend the big money on quality players and fit them into the framework or he is out of his depth with regards an eye for a player once we get into the multi million fee bracket and if this is the case as hard as it might be for some people to accept we maybe in an Adkins/Pochettino situation if we want our club to progress

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:44 pm

You're presumably just living up to your user name there....right ? I mean you couldn't seriously be dissatisfied with the job Dyche is doing with our current squad in the context of the Premier League could you ?

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:46 pm

Barton has (hopefully) been the final weapon, final piece in BFC surviving in the PL. He can do it again, next year.
There is not enough cash in our world to pay and bet (sorry!) on a better acquisition to fill his boots.

Westwood will grow into the role.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:56 pm

Dyche has done amazing beyond all expectations but i like to judge every moment in its present. If I was part of the board at Burnley i would not contemplate anything but for offering Dyche a job for life

As a supporter and objective observer I question whether Dyche has got the talent to take us any further. When Southampton sacked Adkins it was absolutely scandalous given where they were and the job he had done but they took an opportunity to sell their club at its most attractive and find someone better who took them on to the next step.

Now i realise that they could have picked the wrong person and gone backwards and looked like idiots and thats the risk they took.

Personally id love to see Dyche grow as a manager and by doing so take us to another level but if next season ends up with players like Barnes, Boyd, Barton instead of better quality attacking players then I would rather trust the board who has served us impeccably way beyond Dyche's tenure to find the next step up from Dyche when our club is as attractive a proposition than it has probably ever been

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:07 am

Barton did give the ball away sloppily for their second goal last week but let's not forget the goal was a double deflection - and it would be wrong to say he was directly at fault for the goal.

I also thought he had a very good game against Everton. He has not been up to his usual standards in the previous 3 games but you can say that about a few others also.

Prior to that Barton has been great for us - and man of the match in 2 or 3 games.

Not sure how long he can keep it going but he certainly deserves another year contract based on his performances - putting aside any ban.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:11 am

TVC15 wrote:Barton did give the ball away sloppily for their second goal last week but let's not forget the goal was a double deflection - and it would be wrong to say he was directly at fault for the goal.

I also thought he had a very good game against Everton. He has not been up to his usual standards in the previous 3 games but you can say that about a few others also.

Prior to that Barton has been great for us - and man of the match in 2 or 3 games.

Not sure how long he can keep it going but he certainly deserves another year contract based on his performances - putting aside any ban.

But we desperately need to get this hearing out of the way asap to allow us to assess our options moving forward considering the hearing outcome will depend on whether or not he's still here next year.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:19 am

Struggling to see any "desperation" as you put it. Dyche seems happy to have him available and he has made an important contribution to our season.

My guess would be that the situation with Defour is more concerning for Dyche .

Morrisseydyche · Post by **Morrisseydyche** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:33 am

Regardless of his hearing we are much better with him involved. Last year he was superb across the midfield goals at Brentford pke etc were vital. Joey will be a big player personality and mind within the dressing room which we may need for the run in of the prem.

alicante claret · Post by **alicante claret** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:13 am

I only watch via TV but have seen every game live, Barton has played well under what must be personal pressure, he has held midfield together in absence of Marney plus helping to bring players into the side. He has been superb. If there were others to be investigated by FA for similar, I suspect there might well be, I am certain they would not be kept hanging on for as long!

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:25 am

'Lets get this hearing out of the way asap and if he gets banned so be it' Nonsense. Let's have him available for as long as possible. A very good player for us. Yes one or two sloppy passes lately but also vital tackling, interceptions and a leader on the pitch.