Britt Assombalonga

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:48 pm

Dunno, you need a striker

He's probably one the better ones around.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:50 pm

not sure I actually want him as a Claret, but the Boro meltdown if we beat them to his signature would be epic

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:51 pm

No worries here guys,it was a risk with his injury record,time to move on,who can we have a thread about now with 750 replies,and then not sign,good luck at Boro Britt enjoy the cash.

RandomBoroBloke · Post by **RandomBoroBloke** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:52 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Dunno, you need a striker

He's probably one the better ones around.

Just one that is a massive risk, I live in Nottingham now and have lots of Notts mates and have been to a couple of matches. The people I know, albeit only fans like you and I have mixed feelings about him going. Rumours abound that he only trains 3 times a week etc, I know its meaningless and that a club medical would likely pick any issues up but the general opinion of the forest fans that I know is that its only a matter of time before he wrecks himself again.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:04 pm

RandomBoroBloke wrote:Just one that is a massive risk, I live in Nottingham now and have lots of Notts mates and have been to a couple of matches. The people I know, albeit only fans like you and I have mixed feelings about him going. Rumours abound that he only trains 3 times a week etc, I know its meaningless and that a club medical would likely pick any issues up but the general opinion of the forest fans that I know is that its only a matter of time before he wrecks himself again.

Fans haven't got a clue about this sort of thing. Medicals are so stringent, as we witnessed with the Walters video.

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:11 pm

Rumours of 40k - 60k wages in addition to a £15,000,000 transfer fee. Over a 4 year contract thats 25-30m on an unproven premier league player with a bad recent injury record. No doubt i would have liked to have him here, but that's silly money. Let's see what we can get from Europe.

RandomBoroBloke · Post by **RandomBoroBloke** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:14 pm

Quicknick wrote:Fans haven't got a clue about this sort of thing. Medicals are so stringent, as we witnessed with the Walters video.

I do agree with you, still feels like a massive risk though. I guess we will find out later today as the Nottingham Evening Post reckon he is on his way for a medical. If there is anything I trust they will find it, especially after the Subotic situation last year.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:14 pm

Yeah cause our track record of signings from Europe is great!

PWBFC · Post by **PWBFC** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:20 pm

If we wanted him that badly, we'd have paid the money. I'm sure there's other targets out there and preferably players with a better injury record.

He's obviously a decent player but hardly worth breaking the bank for.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:24 pm

cant see Forest ever selling anyone to us

strange that we play them in friendly, apart from Warburton, giving their transfer stance

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:25 pm

RVclaret wrote:Yeah cause our track record of signings from Europe is great!

Maybe we should try Eire.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:26 pm

Spike wrote:cant see Forest ever selling anyone to us

strange that we play them in friendly, apart from Warburton, giving their transfer stance

I'm sure that if we'd matched Middlesbrough's offer, they'd have accepted it.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:53 pm

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:10 pm

Please just sign for Boro, Britt. I`m honestly, to use its American meaning, totally nonplussed about this striker and any possible deal with the mighty Clarets. I feel and have felt we need more an Ings type striker to supplement our strikeforce (and add flexibility) not an untried Gray Mk2. NEXT!!!!! I`m sure we will have other more eyebrow raising irons in the fire.

Crewe claret · Post by **Crewe claret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:14 pm

Right we move on but my worry is who is out there that is in our price bracket

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:22 pm

i could just tell by his face he was useless, he'd have been unreliable and a flop. dodged a bullet there for sure.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:24 pm

I had mentioned Takuma Asano, a Japanese striker signed by Arsenal a couple of seasons ago, as a possible striker we shouls be in for, BUT he has signed a 2nd season-long loan at Stuttgart. There ARE people out there!!!!!

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:32 pm

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Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:46 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:I had mentioned Takuma Asano, a Japanese striker signed by Arsenal a couple of seasons ago, as a possible striker we shouls be in for, BUT he has signed a 2nd season-long loan at Stuttgart. There ARE people out there!!!!!

Yuya Kubo?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:56 pm

Slurpy wrote:Yuya Kubo?

Not a bad shout at all!!! He`s actually from my wife`s hometown (no wonder he buggered off to Belgium!!!!!!!). BelgianClaret`s the man to ask!!!!! A German mate of mine here, just talking about Asano, mentioned a German striker he rates, Kevin Volland. They`re all just names of course, but so was Defour!

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:59 pm

RVclaret wrote:IMO, Assombalonga would be more suited to our style of play (next season in particular with Taylor, Brady and JBG providing the aerial crossing), Gray is pretty useless in the air if truth be told.

But Vokesy certainly isn't

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:02 pm

If it is true that he only trains 3 times a week then I can't believe Dyche would touch him. You can't train everybody hard and let one do half the work.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:04 pm

Not too bothered if he decides to go to Boro for the cash, not SD's type of player if that is the case.

I will be concerned if we start the season without a replacement for Keane, a pacey/creative winger and a striker as an alternative to Gray.

We aren't even close to spending Keanes money and that's without the promised kitty so I'm sure they'll be 2/3 bigger signings soon.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:23 pm

I imagine we would have signed him if we really felt he was crucial to our plans. He was worth a punt at £8-£10m I suspect, but never anything more. Good luck to Boro if they're willing to pay upward of £15m for him. It's a risk, especially on big wages.

Knowing SD he'll have a list of half a dozen or so strikers he'd be happy with so we move onto the next one. I'm not concerned about missing out here, not at all.

burnleyaremy2ndteam · Post by **burnleyaremy2ndteam** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:26 pm

I've seen a few reports dismissing the £60k figures;

'It has been reported that Assombalonga was going to be paid £60,000 a week, but it is understood the actual figure is lower and falls within Boro’s current wage framework.'

I'm not sure what 'Boro's wage framework' is and if this is much higher than Burnley's supposed £30k cap

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:28 pm

Boro's approach doesn't make a lot of sense.

They want someone to score the goals which will help them get back to the Premier league which makes sense. They sell Jordan Rhodes for 10m and then pay 15m for Assombalonga in the same window.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:45 pm

Boro have no chance of going straight back no matter who they sign.
They do not have the quality and even offloading Downing and Rhodes will not change that.
They were very fortunate to get promoted and the number of clubs who have the quality to come straight back is minute.
We were one of the teams to make it but we had Sean and players who would give 100%.
Boro lack the necessary fighting spirit and there are a lot of better teams in the Championship this season.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:49 pm

A little odd that the only outlets running the reports of him having a medical at Boro are the two local rags. Ther could be more mileage in this one yet.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:57 pm

OK, so here's a conspiracy theory for you... Warburton asked Dyche to have an "interest" in him to get the best price for Forest from Boro... benefits Forest by inflating the sale price and benefits Dyche by putting a smile on his face after the animosity towards him from Boro (well Krankie at least) last season

Obviously I have no evidence of this, it is pure imagination

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:01 pm

From what I've seen he's very similar to Gray but has a serious injury in his history that may affect his game.

There seemed to be some doubt amongst Forest fans as to whether he'd retained his pace post injury.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:05 pm

Not too bothered if he goes to Boro, I was never sold on the idea of him signing for us and £15m is a hell of a lot of money for Championship striker with a suspect injury record.

Really hope we can get on and sign a number 10 now.

RandomBoroBloke · Post by **RandomBoroBloke** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:08 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:OK, so here's a conspiracy theory for you... Warburton asked Dyche to have an "interest" in him to get the best price for Forest from Boro... benefits Forest by inflating the sale price and benefits Dyche by putting a smile on his face after the animosity towards him from Boro (well Krankie at least) last season

Obviously I have no evidence of this, it is pure imagination

That was dreamed up in the local gutter press, anyone with half a brain would have nothing but respect for SD and what he has done at Burnley. **** sells papers it was nothing more than that. The same crap was pumped out this end about SD repeatedly saying we had more money than Burnley, it was all ******** taken out of context.

Hendrickxz · Post by **Hendrickxz** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:09 pm

He's AssombaWonga from now on!

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:11 pm

Get Ingsy back on loan from Liverpool. If we don't someone else will and he won't feature in Liverpool's first team in the foreseeable future. Always enjoyed the regular chats we had when he was a neighbour. Fantastic bloke,great player.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:24 pm

Britt **** off to Boro.
I'm fed up of this. Thread closed.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:44 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Get Ingsy back on loan from Liverpool. If we don't someone else will and he won't feature in Liverpool's first team in the foreseeable future. Always enjoyed the regular chats we had when he was a neighbour. Fantastic bloke,great player.

Would be extremely happy if we could do that, if he is anywhere near the player that left us after his injury. I like gray, but a re-uniting of the Vings Partnership with the extra quality we know have throughout the middle of the park could be very dangerous.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:46 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Get Ingsy back on loan from Liverpool. If we don't someone else will and he won't feature in Liverpool's first team in the foreseeable future. Always enjoyed the regular chats we had when he was a neighbour. Fantastic bloke,great player.

would be great, but seems particularly prone to serious knee issues. How long has been out in recent times both with Liverpool and us ?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:46 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:OK, so here's a conspiracy theory for you... Warburton asked Dyche to have an "interest" in him to get the best price for Forest from Boro... benefits Forest by inflating the sale price and benefits Dyche by putting a smile on his face after the animosity towards him from Boro (well Krankie at least) last season

Obviously I have no evidence of this, it is pure imagination

I like it.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:07 pm

Boro throwing money around again, another relegation for them then.

Terry Cochrane · Post by **Terry Cochrane** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:08 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Boro have no chance of going straight back no matter who they sign.
They do not have the quality and even offloading Downing and Rhodes will not change that.
They were very fortunate to get promoted and the number of clubs who have the quality to come straight back is minute.
We were one of the teams to make it but we had Sean and players who would give 100%.
Boro lack the necessary fighting spirit and there are a lot of better teams in the Championship this season.

"They were lucky to be promoted last time "- complete nonsense. We equalised at the death to prevent them from going above us three games before the seasons end. Funny how memory fades to suit an agenda. Yes they were pretty dogshit last season but that means nothing for this season.

My feeling is BA will sign for neither Club.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:15 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Get Ingsy back on loan from Liverpool. If we don't someone else will and he won't feature in Liverpool's first team in the foreseeable future. Always enjoyed the regular chats we had when he was a neighbour. Fantastic bloke,great player.

Is this the Ings who said last week that he doesn't know how long it will be before he's fit again?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:17 pm

Terry Cochrane wrote:"They were lucky to be promoted last time "- complete nonsense. We equalised at the death to prevent them from going above us three games before the seasons end. Funny how memory fades to suit an agenda. Yes they were pretty dogshit last season but that means nothing for this season.

My feeling is BA will sign for neither Club.

That equaliser didn't stop them going above us - they were two points above us already and would have gone five clear. They failed to win any of their last four games although it proved to be enough, just.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:22 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Is this the Ings who said last week that he doesn't know how long it will be before he's fit again?

from the Echo 6th July:

'...The 24-year-old has been working throughout the summer and remains on the road to a full recovery.

Why Liverpool and Jurgen Klopp may not need to be that patient this summer
But after so long on the sidelines, the England international is refusing to rush himself back.

“I’m doing really well at the moment,” said Ings.

“Timescale-wise, I’m unsure but I’m feeling closer and closer every day. I’m back doing ball work. My fitness levels are getting back, it has been a while. I’m enjoying it and I’m feeling strong.

“If you dwell on things too long, you’ll never make it back. You need to obviously be hurt for a while but then you need to get your head down, focus and crack on...'

he wont get any game time at Anfield but could from our bench during his recuperation.

I'd welcome him back!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:26 pm

claretblue wrote:from the Echo 6th July:

'...The 24-year-old has been working throughout the summer and remains on the road to a full recovery.

Why Liverpool and Jurgen Klopp may not need to be that patient this summer
But after so long on the sidelines, the England international is refusing to rush himself back.

“I’m doing really well at the moment,” said Ings.

“Timescale-wise, I’m unsure but I’m feeling closer and closer every day. I’m back doing ball work. My fitness levels are getting back, it has been a while. I’m enjoying it and I’m feeling strong.

“If you dwell on things too long, you’ll never make it back. You need to obviously be hurt for a while but then you need to get your head down, focus and crack on...'

he wont get any game time at Anfield but could from our bench during his recuperation.

I'd welcome him back!

Which means he's not fit and still to do any real work with the rest of the squad. Four serious knee injuries now since August 2011.

JPS71 · Post by **JPS71** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:32 pm

claretblue wrote:from the Echo 6th July:

'...The 24-year-old has been working throughout the summer and remains on the road to a full recovery.

Why Liverpool and Jurgen Klopp may not need to be that patient this summer
But after so long on the sidelines, the England international is refusing to rush himself back.

“I’m doing really well at the moment,” said Ings.

“Timescale-wise, I’m unsure but I’m feeling closer and closer every day. I’m back doing ball work. My fitness levels are getting back, it has been a while. I’m enjoying it and I’m feeling strong.

“If you dwell on things too long, you’ll never make it back. You need to obviously be hurt for a while but then you need to get your head down, focus and crack on...'

he wont get any game time at Anfield but could from our bench during his recuperation.

I'd welcome him back!

Who would pay his wages during his recuperation if it was to happen ?
Why should we get their player fit for them ?

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:32 pm

of course he's not 'match-fit'

....but like Marney, Vokes, Long + Juke he will be soon able to play at premier level...and we would be the more likely vehicle for his return than Liverpool

a loan deal would be good for both Burnley and Danny!

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:36 pm

Dyche is a great manager we all know that - unfortunately what he can't do is heal bodies.

I loved Danny Ings - he had a brilliant season for us when we got promoted.

However if I started a thread saying we should sign Andy Carroll or anyone else with as bad an injury record as Ings I am sure I would get nobody agreeing with me - so not sure why that's different for Ings just because he played for us.

We should be counting our blessings we managed to get a big fee for him in between knee injuries

Terry Cochrane · Post by **Terry Cochrane** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote:That equaliser didn't stop them going above us - they were two points above us already and would have gone five clear. They failed to win any of their last four games although it proved to be enough, just.

So not winning their last 5 games means they were lucky to get promoted or in the previous 41 games they attained enough points to cushion the poor end to the season? Take it either way.

Seems that Assombalonga has gone from 'best striker outside the Premiership' to 'serially crocked, £14m is vastly overpaying - overnight.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:43 pm

Terry Cochrane wrote:So not winning their last 5 games means they were lucky to get promoted or in the previous 41 games they attained enough points to cushion the poor end to the season? Take it either way.

Seems that Assombalonga has gone from 'best striker outside the Premiership' to 'serially crocked, £14m is vastly overpaying - overnight.

I never made any reference to them being lucky - I was just pointing out that they were above us before that game against us and remained so after the game.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:46 pm

Has there been a serious offer in for Gray?
And if not, how about keeping him until January, see how things are going.
We don't need to sell, and we wouldn't need to spend a vast sum (by our standards) on a Championship striker.
As for Ings, good player for us, but he wanted out, he's history.