Those who were confident when we were 10 points in front

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:09 pm

Genuine question. How do you feel now? Still confident we're going to stay up? Despot overwhelming evidence to the contrary - I.E our form and the form of a few below us.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:12 pm

Totally

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:14 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Genuine question. How do you feel now? Still confident we're going to stay up? Despot overwhelming evidence to the contrary - I.E our form and the form of a few below us.

Yep.

What overwhelming evidence? Swansea's four points in seven games?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:14 pm

Just because we are conceeding sloppy goals at an alarming rate and look like a side incapable of creating a semi decent chance doesn't mean we're doomed.

2 draws or 1 win probably does it and with 2 home games left it isnt impossable.

A backs to the wall defensive display or a slice of good fortune can't not go our way in the next few games.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:15 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Yep.

What overwhelming evidence? Swansea's four points in seven games?

How many points have we got in 7 games?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:16 pm

Murger wrote:How many points have we got in 7 games?

Five.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:17 pm

It would still even now take a huge points swing for us to go down. We could lose every game and stay up.

Hull and Swansea will be chasing each other. What are the odds on both of them and Palace getting 37 points AND us failing to get a point in our last 4 games?

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:18 pm

Murger wrote:How many points have we got in 7 games?

Same isn't it? And with being 5 points in front it gives us a big advantage.

Still confident but we are struggling to score at the moment.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:19 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:Same isn't it? And with being 5 points in front it gives us a big advantage.

Still confident but we are struggling to score at the moment.

Not just struggling to score, struggling to create.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:19 pm

I was never confident we were clear of it and to be quite honest the lack of belief there seemed to be today was concerning for the run in, but I think we've just got to back the team to do what is needed. Think the message needs to be we got ourselves this chance of staying up don't blow it after all your hard work, give it everything and we're backing you. I'd still have been pleasantly surprised at the start of the season to see us here now. We should not expect to beat Manure, but we should expect to rattle them... and that's worrying too.

But I'm still not convinced by the doom and gloom merchants either. Even if we go into the last day with it in our own hands we've done fantastically well this season.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:20 pm

Yes I'm still confident.

I think it will be very close, but we will do it.
Hull and Swansea have tough games remaining don't they?
Boro are gone now I think, will be confirmed when they fail to win their game in hand.
Sunderland are also gone.

Hopefully Palace lose today, but sods law means they won't.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:25 pm

Still confident.

Still relaxed.

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:27 pm

Utd were brilliant out there, I think many thought they'd be there for the taking.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:27 pm

Sunderland and Boro I think are gone. Swansea 5 points behind, but 2 winnable games remaining away to Sunderland and at home to WBA.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:30 pm

Murger wrote:Not just struggling to score, struggling to create.

Today yes. last week no. With better finishing we'd have been 1 or 2 up at half time. Same against Sunderland, Boro and liverpool

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:30 pm

Just looking at the away run & home fixtures back then I fully expected us to be around where we are now so not bothered.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:43 pm

We look like we're running out of steam.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:52 pm

Aside from Swansea when we went into stoppage time at 2-2 all of our recent results have been pretty much predictable. Poor performance today but that was mainly down to how United effectively killed the game.

The best chance of points is in the final two home games. That's just the way the fixtures fall. Five points clear with four games to go - I don't think many people would have said no to that back in August.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:53 pm

I think they might around Christmas. We should not even be flirting with relegation now. SD has at present lost the plot.

northernpowerhouse · Post by **northernpowerhouse** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:02 pm

I'm fully confident that we'll scrape survival but teams that end the season in relegation form normally continue it next season. Big summer for Dyche.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:02 pm

I think lost the plot is more than a little strong. I think the back team need to work on plans A and C in the close season. I would have our current style as definite plan B, as I think next season we will be found out big time unless we change things - the top clubs have got our measure the rest will follow.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:04 pm

I think we will stay up but anyone who thinks we are safe and not in the relegation battle is fooling themselves, were still in a good position but we are in the relegation fight now.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:04 pm

Still very confident.

1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:08 pm

Don't panic

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:09 pm

There's some on here who'd panic if we were twenty points clear.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:17 pm

"I think they might around Christmas. We should not even be flirting with relegation now. SD has at present lost the plot."

Second half of the season is always difficult for newly promoted clubs who don't have the squad depth/quality to change their style of play. We over achieved up until Christmas and that has led to raised expectations.

Hull and Swansea might have some momentum after yesterday but we've been better over the season so far. Today was a wake-up call but provided we get back to what we are good at we can take the necessary points from our last two home games.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:54 pm

I think we'll make it, just

We are the only team that is catchable for Swansea or Hull

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:57 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:We look like we're running out of steam.

Almost inevitable when you don't do squad rotation. In my honest opinion this is SD's achilles heel.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:01 pm

I'm very confident we'll stay up. Some of you need to calm the **** down.

The only points Hull will pick up is against Sunderland. And even if they win, and we lose all out games, they'll still be beliw us on GD.

Swansea's next two games are against Manu and Everton, both defeats. GD means we only need 1 more point to stay above them if they win their last two games.

Both Hull and Swansea would have to exceed these expectations to even have a chance of us being relegated, so stop being a bunch of pussies.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:03 pm

Chilled.
Chill.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:33 pm

imagine rovers staying up and us being relegated,

theres people on this board that believe that the reverse has been a given since january

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:34 pm

Wel finish above palace and swansea and hull

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:37 pm

ablueclaret wrote:I think they might around Christmas. We should not even be flirting with relegation now. SD has at present lost the plot.

You see the problem here, ABC? You've been telling us all season that SD hasn't had a plot to lose!

rufus lumley · Post by **rufus lumley** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:48 pm

Still am.

Masham Ale · Post by **Masham Ale** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:49 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Wel finish above palace and swansea and hull

I'm not greedy, I'll settle for finishing above one of them.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:08 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I'm very confident we'll stay up. Some of you need to calm the **** down.

The only points Hull will pick up is against Sunderland. And even if they win, and we lose all out games, they'll still be beliw us on GD.

Swansea's next two games are against Manu and Everton, both defeats. GD means we only need 1 more point to stay above them if they win their last two games.

Both Hull and Swansea would have to exceed these expectations to even have a chance of us being relegated, so stop being a bunch of pussies.

wrong, and if you think we are safe, Hull , Swansea both won, Palace won away at Liverpool, we were beaten , and we face Palace away next.
Having not won away all season, and having slipped down the table with 4 games left, its hardly a good place to be.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:12 pm

We'll be reeght

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:22 pm

I thought we lacked confidence and bite today. Mourhino set up well. Most of the team seem like they can't wait to get rid of the ball too. We'll see what happens but goodness we need to start scoring again.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:26 pm

Yes, still confident.

Will be tighter than I'd hoped and expected a few weeks ago but we'll be fine.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:14 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Yes, still confident.

Will be tighter than I'd hoped and expected a few weeks ago but we'll be fine.

I'd go along with this. Pretty sure we'll be fine, although it can never be guaranteed.

We had a 10 point lead I think with 9 or 10 games to go. We've played just over half the remaining games since then, and we still have half the lead - and even if the lead gets cut to zero, our goal difference is a little insurance policy. So yes, its tighter than we'd all like it to be, but even as we are the cushion we built up just about looks like being enough. Two draws and Swansea need to win 3 from 4.

In our last 4 games, we've taken 4 points. That'd be plenty.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:19 pm

we only have 4 more points than swansea now, and four matches left each. We are looking decidedly jaded, and they aren't .

levraiclaret · Post by **levraiclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:22 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Genuine question. How do you feel now? Still confident we're going to stay up? Despot overwhelming evidence to the contrary - I.E our form and the form of a few below us.

I'm 40% less confident but still think the odds are on our staying up. Still wouldn't swap places with the Jacks and the Tigers. Palace are a different matter .

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:23 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:we only have 4 more points than swansea now, and four matches left each. We are looking decidedly jaded, and they aren't .

5 points more - and goal difference. Meaning we're effectively 6 points clear of a relegation place with 4 games left. It'd be remarkable if we were to be relegated.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:24 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:we only have 4 more points than swansea now, and four matches left each. We are looking decidedly jaded, and they aren't .

Nope, 5 points more, and to clarify, are you talking about the Swansea who have only won once in the last 7 games as one of the teams who don't look jaded?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:27 pm

if we lose to palace, and the swans win, its a slim margin to be facing the remaining games. I obviously hope we'll do it, but fail to see why so many are still confident. we are playing quite bad to be honest.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:37 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:if we lose to palace, and the swans win, its a slim margin to be facing the remaining games. I obviously hope we'll do it, but fail to see why so many are still confident. we are playing quite bad to be honest.

But Swansea have Man U away and previously they had lost their last six away games!

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:37 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:if we lose to palace, and the swans win, its a slim margin to be facing the remaining games. I obviously hope we'll do it, but fail to see why so many are still confident. we are playing quite bad to be honest.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream- -and not make dreams your master;
If you can think- -and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on! '

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings- -nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And- -which is more- -you'll be a Man, my son!

Rudyard Kipling

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:46 pm

If my aunts had Bol.....

We're not actually playing that badly - we've just had a very difficult run of games. The results have been pretty much in line with realistic expectations. It gets a bit easier from here...

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:18 pm

Is Rudyard coming on from the bench Paul?
fine words indeed, I have wilted recently in my belief we'll make it to safety I must admit.
You hear all the pundits saying Burnley are okay, then picking their three for the drop, we are hardly ever mentioned.
But when you look at how things are shaping up ! difficult to remain positive. It looks a bit of a rocky road to say the least.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:42 pm

The run-in always was going to have twists and turns, we've done the twists but now it's our turn. Don't sweat, we'll scrape home.