Agyei

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:17 pm

Was quite impressed by Agyei today. As much as you can be against a team like United. He offered a lot more than Barnes. The one moment that impressed me in particular was when he managed to create a yard of space for himself to get a shot away (probably our only shot from open play all game).

Could he start a league game this season?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:19 pm

I doubt it.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:19 pm

If we can get the 3 points we need next weekend then i wpuld hope he coukd start 2 or 3 of the remaining games

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:20 pm

I was talking to Marcus Rashfords brother before the game and he was telling me that Agyei is highly rated at Utd and one to watch for the future.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:21 pm

beddie wrote:I was talking to Marcus Rashfords brother before the game and he was telling me that Agyei is highly rated at Utd and one to watch for the future.

Of course you were.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:21 pm

he should do, looks to have quite a liking for going directly at them, two quick feet.
I dont think he was raw at all as some say, given a bit more time on the pitch he will score. I thought he was good.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:21 pm

beddie wrote:I was talking to Marcus Rashfords brother before the game and he was telling me that Agyei is highly rated at Utd and one to watch for the future.

Everton after him on sky sports today

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:24 pm

I heard his surname pronounced at least three different ways this afternoon, two of which were by the same tannoy announcer.

Which is correct?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:25 pm

Needs a new contract now.And needs to start every game as we chase out points down.He should have started or at least on a 2-0 he showed fight which is more than others did.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:26 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Needs a new contract now.And needs to start every game as we chase out points down.He should have started or at least on a 2-0 he showed fight which is more than others did.

Absolute drivel.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:27 pm

His touch seemed to be a lot better than Gray and Barnes today. Gray and Agyei could cause a dangerous attacking force

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:31 pm

He's getting game time in the PL. His record, and what little I've seen, suggests he would be very lucky to be getting that elsewhere. I hope he continues to develop but the "interest" from other clubs smacks of an overactive agent to me.

UTC!

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:32 pm

Get real. He was involved in about 3 passages of play. In 2 of those he slipped and gave away possession, in the other he did well to get a snap-shot away. He was fine, nothing more, nothing less. Certainly didn't do anything to suggest that he should be above our other strikers in the pecking order, until we're definitely safe at least.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:39 pm

He's obviously got potential, but he looked very raw.

Suspect his rough edges might be smoothed on loan elsewhere next season.

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:43 pm

Umm...From what i saw forgot to take the ball with him and looked like he thought he was still playing development league
A good prospect all the same

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:48 pm

he didnt look raw, he was on about five minutes, the regular strikers rarely get a sniff thesedays, i certainly think with his age and strength, he'd be more effective than Barnes or vokes. he slipped because some clown decided to put the sprinklers on at half time.
You could argue the toss all day about whether he would be better or not.
Easiest thing in the world to find faults, I could say same for our regulars missing sitters and they have had hours of first team football , and they too fall over occasionally.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:50 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:he didnt look raw, he was on about five minutes, the regular strikers rarely get a sniff thesedays, i certainly think with his age and strength, he'd be more effective than Barnes or vokes. he slipped because some clown decided to put the sprinklers on at half time.
You could argue the toss all day about whether he would be better or not.
Easiest thing in the world to find faults, I could say same for our regulars missing sitters and they have had hours of first team football , and they too fall over occasionally.

That's right, it was the sprinklers!

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:51 pm

Not enough today to be making any serious judgments, let's get real. But looked ok and MUST be worth giving some game time to IF we ever get safe and we've little to play for. He won at least one (meaningful) header today and nobody else did that bar Keane and Mee.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:53 pm

Heaton had a right go at him at one point when he was looking to take the quick goal kick and Agyei was just stood around aimlessly.

He looks to have something but I'd not be starting him until he's got some games under his belt at Championship level next season just to get that big game experience.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:53 pm

I honestly don't understand why people are so hesitant in giving the lad game time. The other strikers offer little to nothing most games. Why not just give him a chance.

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:53 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:he didnt look raw, he was on about five minutes, the regular strikers rarely get a sniff thesedays, i certainly think with his age and strength, he'd be more effective than Barnes or vokes. he slipped because some clown decided to put the sprinklers on at half time.
You could argue the toss all day about whether he would be better or not.
Easiest thing in the world to find faults, I could say same for our regulars missing sitters and they have had hours of first team football , and they too fall over occasionally.

He struggled for Coventry(was it?)FFS

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:56 pm

CBT wrote:He struggled for Coventry(was it?)FFS

that doesn't mean anything ??

CBT · Post by **CBT** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:01 pm

To mean it means he's 18 and not ready yet for the prem
But like some say on here will not knock his potential

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:12 pm

CBT wrote:He struggled for Coventry(was it?)FFS

He scored 4 league goals for a struggling poor side 16 games.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:49 pm

Has good quick feet, the most important asset any footballer can have.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:54 pm

Played well and put himself about a bit, how many other players beat Fellaini to a header today? And on the Coventry point he was playing with terrible players in a terrible team. He will be the next Gray when he moves on

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:02 am

He had one moment.

He cocked up a couple of times and lacked control.

Glad he had a chance. No doubt another will follow. Let's not get carried away. I remember Ray Hankin at 18 and went 'wow!'. I will await that same thought with Agyei. If it happens.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:08 am

Defour, Tarkowski, Agyei.

Anyone who isn't in the starting XI automatically becomes the answer to all our problems

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:10 am

The best bit was absolutely dominating Fellaini in the air.

Not enough seen today to suggest he should start. But he needs to feature more and more and then go on loan next year.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:10 am

CBT wrote:He struggled for Coventry(was it?)FFS

Rodriguez didnt fair much better at stirling 3goals in 11 games he didnt do to bad in the long term though.give young uns a chance.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:02 am

What a weird thread.

From folk wanting him to start, to folk not wanting him to start (even though they 'like' the posts wanting him to start) because they haven't seen enough of him, to mentioning a player from the 1970's as a guide.

Leave the f***ing lad alone and let him get on with it. If he's good enough, he'll be good enough.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:50 pm

tim_noone wrote:Rodriguez didnt fair much better at stirling 3goals in 11 games he didnt do to bad in the long term though.give young uns a chance.

Rodriguez played 35 times and scored 5 goals in our promotion season under Coyle, he then had a bad injury and missed most of the following season but ended up on loan at Barnsley for six games scoring once. His big break was when Laws decided to give him a chance by not signing a big money striker. At that point he'd already played a lot of championship games.

I'd tend to agree that a loan in the Championship would do Agyei good but he needs to prove to people that he's worth it for one of those teams to want to take him and that's not going to be easy. I was surprised that a League One was prepared to give him a run in the first team to be honest. If SD decides that he's not quite ready for us then I'd not be surprised to see him playing in League One again next season.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:53 pm

Looked nowhere near ready to me.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:03 pm

dibraidio wrote:Rodriguez played 35 times and scored 5 goals in our promotion season under Coyle

Started two league games and scored two league goals in that season and was totally ignored at the start of the following Premier League season, not even getting on the bench.

In the following season, 2010/11, he came off the bench at Crystal Palace in a 0-0 draw and looked outstanding. He kept his place for the next two seasons.

dibraidio wrote:At that point he'd already played a lot of championship games.

Well, no he hadn't. He'd started two and had over 20 sub appearances but most of them coming on in the last few minutes.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Started two league games and scored two league goals in that season and was totally ignored at the start of the following Premier League season, not even getting on the bench.

In the following season, 2010/11, he came off the bench at Crystal Palace in a 0-0 draw and looked outstanding. He kept his place for the next two seasons.

Well, no he hadn't. He'd started two and had over 20 sub appearances but most of them coming on in the last few minutes.

Another dig at Coyle? Surprised you didn't throw a dig at Howe and Laws in there yet when I dig at Dyche its a different ball game.

lucs86 · Post by **lucs86** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:24 pm

fidelcastro wrote:I heard his surname pronounced at least three different ways this afternoon, two of which were by the same tannoy announcer.

Which is correct?

I've heard through someone who knows lads in the development squad that it's pronounced A-jee, like Mustapha Hadji or Gheorghe Hagi (without the H).

I prefer "DAN!"

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:26 pm

fidelcastro wrote:I heard his surname pronounced at least three different ways this afternoon, two of which were by the same tannoy announcer.

Which is correct?

I asked the question and was told somehing like Adj-ee

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:47 pm

Looked very raw to me, but there was certainly something about him.

I mean it must be dead easy coming on in the Prem against one of the giants of the modern game.

Top level league 1 side/Scottish premier league or bottom end championship side would do nicely next year to aid his development. He just needs games and refined.

Jeremy_Bentham · Post by **Jeremy_Bentham** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:50 pm

KRBFC wrote:Another dig at Coyle? Surprised you didn't throw a dig at Howe and Laws in there yet when I dig at Dyche its a different ball game.

. thought Beast did well to escape too.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:51 pm

Several references already on this thread to goals scored by players for a struggling Coventry side. Marvin Sordell scored 7 times whilst at Coventry (4 League, 2 FA Cup, 1 JPT). He appeared in 18 league games.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:59 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Several references already on this thread to goals scored by players for a struggling Coventry side. Marvin Sordell scored 7 times whilst at Coventry (4 League, 2 FA Cup, 1 JPT). He appeared in 18 league games.

From what I read of his time at Coventry - he started well, had a dip and then finished well. Came back and I think we were trying to get him out on loan again but nothing materialised. I've seen him play well and not so well in the dev squad, highlighted by his two performances in the Premier League Cup against Blackburn and Sunderland recently. I think some have said he's raw but the manager and coaching staff must have seen something in him to get him on the bench and give him a few minutes. I'd think we will try to get him out on loan again next season, hopefully somewhere better than Coventry.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:07 pm

Yes somewhere like Preston would be nice. A good local club that have a reputation for blooding young players.

As for pronunciation - I work with someone with the same last name, will ask him

. I am sure he pronounced it Ag-Yay when he introduced himself.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:08 pm

Agreed CT it would be good to see him get regular game time in a side not struggling and in turmoil as Coventry were for most of this season, and last. Also, at a level higher than League 1.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:15 pm

He's certainly got something about him. There were a couple of moments yesterday when his presence was really impressive and it got him time around the edge of the box to get a shot away that others wouldn't have had.

I'm not too sure he's the sort of lad who needs another loan spell as it happens. He's clearly well-developed physically for his age, so he'll not need too much more "toughening up". What he clearly needs is to learn a bit more game sense - he was a bit raw in his decision making a couple of times yesterday - but to some extent he's as well learning that here and being an asset to us as out on loan. He's already commented that he's learnt lots from training against our centre backs and that, plus the learning he'll get from being in and out of the first team, are arguably worth the same as plenty of game time against inferior players.

He turns 20 this summer, so he's old enough to be making an impact on the first team, and if he's got the raw physical gifts I'm not sure I see a reason why he should automatically go out on loan. Its certainly fair to say that other teams have given a go to players of a similar age and athleticism without sending them out on loan.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:02 pm

Why are some fans quick to knock positive comments .Dan did enough to a least get a subs spot v Palace .
Loaning him out to me is a backward step .We need to develop him with our other first team squad.
Everton are quick to promote rising stars .Why do we have to want to push players out on loan ?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:06 pm

Some people on here think that at 23-24 players should be getting experience to maybe one day break into the squad. He's 20. Good enough - old enough. End of story.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:14 pm

Not sure he would get a start for a championship team , unless it's for us of course

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:18 pm

He was linked with everton over the weekend . He cant be that bad . I wouldnt be suprised to see him break into the first team next season

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:33 pm

joey13 wrote:Not sure he would get a start for a championship team , unless it's for us of course

Well hes had his time at coventry... hes back with us now.we need the ball in the back of the net pretty rapid were pretty sound defence wise hes an unknown quantity to the opposition.get him in now , nothing ventured nothing gained.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:16 pm

Good to see such supportive comments on here.

We need to be giving these players a chance and our support.